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posted by Fnord666 on Sunday November 28 2021, @04:17PM   Printer-friendly
from the vertical-living dept.

IKEA has furnished and is renting out a 10 m2 apartment in central Tokyo for about a dollar per month. It's clearly a gimmick of sorts as the furniture in the apartment are worth a lot more then that. Still looking at the pictures it looks like living in a nicely furnished prison cell, that is also very high (floor to ceiling). Any takers for such compact living? I dont think climbing around on ladders to get around is for me.

It seems very futuristic though; it is a staple of sci-fi to pack people like sardines in a can (Ripley's apartment in aliens, 5th element etc., etc.)

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/25/business/ikea-japan-tokyo-tiny-apartment-scli-intl/index.html
https://www.ikea.com/jp/ja/campaigns/ca00-tiny-homes-pub616dcf20


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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @04:32PM (64 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @04:32PM (#1200249)

    As housing costs skyrocket under capitalism, tiny green homes is all you'll be able to afford.

    The green part that usually goes along with is just PR. They don't actually give a flying fuck about the environment. I'm surprised this one doesn't have green attached to it, so I figured I'd do the needful. Ikea link is torwalled.

    Eating bugs remains the most hilarious to me, when even getting a tiny packet of bugs as a salad topping costs as much as a big juicy steak.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @04:49PM (17 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @04:49PM (#1200255)

    So what's end game here? Humans that time-share a 10m2 pod, going to work at 7am when the night shift returns and sleeps all day, then coming back to the pod at 7pm to sleep and munch down anti-depressants. Sounds like preparation for the trip to Mars that we're all so excited about.

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @04:56PM (11 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @04:56PM (#1200257)

      Or a Submarine with HOT Bunking. 3 people one sleeping birth.

      Other cool thing about subs... they run on a 18hr clock, not 24. 6hrs on, 6hrs downtime (meals, reading), 6hrs sleep, repeat.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @04:59PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @04:59PM (#1200260)

        What's the advantage over 8-8-8?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @08:26PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @08:26PM (#1200301)

          I prefer 6 - 9 - 6 - 9. With your mom.

          • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Sunday November 28 2021, @10:45PM

            by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 28 2021, @10:45PM (#1200344) Journal

            I'd prefer someone younger, spank you very much!

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        • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @01:50AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @01:50AM (#1200366)

          The original reason for switching from 8-8-8 to 6-6-6 was to combat watch fatigue. 8 hours is a long time to do anything and the free cycling rhythm without daylight to keep you entrained exacerbates the problem. So it short term experiments, it results in better productivity and less mistakes. But there were indications that it was actually worse than 8-8-8 in the long term. Turns out that 6-6-6 is actually much worse than 8-8-8 with minor adjustments for submarine life. Hence why the Navy doesn't do 6-6-6 on almost all submarines anymore.

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @06:05PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @06:05PM (#1200274)

        I switched over to 6 - 6 - 6 hours as part of a crew supporting our bike rider on Race Across America (RAAM). We had plenty to do while he crossed the country (~10 days). Our schedule was a regular sequence of rotation between a motorhome and the rider-following-minivan, with the motorhome heading off the course to shop every day. With the 18 hour schedule everyone had a shot at day and night duties, and also sleeping day and night. For the event it worked out very well, we all did 12 hours working and 6 sleeping.

        The previous year the same crew was on a 24 hour schedule (16 hours working and 8 sleeping), but by the end of a 16 hour shift many of us were starting to make mistakes.

        After the 18 hour "day" adjustment (which was easy in the context of the race), it took me weeks to get back on a normal schedule. I was forever dozing and waking up at inconvenient times. Sort of like jet lag, but lasted much longer.

               

      • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Sunday November 28 2021, @09:11PM (5 children)

        by mhajicek (51) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 28 2021, @09:11PM (#1200319)

        I like 12 hours on, 4 hours off, 10 hours sleep. Unfortunately doesn't fit in a 24 hour cycle.

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        • (Score: 2) by zocalo on Sunday November 28 2021, @10:34PM (2 children)

          by zocalo (302) on Sunday November 28 2021, @10:34PM (#1200342)
          Maybe not, but with some of the new flexible working policies you could do that if you didn't mind some of your hours being unsociable with those of colleagues. Or, depending on your job, you might even be able to turn that to your advantage for blocking out times when you could work without interruption; it's 13-days before the cycle would naturally realign with the 24-hour one, but if you pull a 24-hour day every 13 days (for you) that would re-align the cycle every 14 regular days making it possible to have a regular meeting cadence.

          Circadian cycles longer than 24 hours are actually fairly common, probably a genetic throwback to aeons ago when there were more hours in the Earth day, with various studies having been done to study the effects of this including this one that used a 26-hour cycle. [nih.gov]
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          • (Score: 3, Informative) by Reziac on Monday November 29 2021, @02:28AM (1 child)

            by Reziac (2489) on Monday November 29 2021, @02:28AM (#1200376) Homepage

            No, days used to be much shorter; here are some Handy Charts:

            https://spacemath.gsfc.nasa.gov/earth/6Page58.pdf [nasa.gov]

            When the earliest life arose, Earth's day was about 15 hours.

            We still see the bio-legacy with people who run on about a 30 hour day... but if you look more closely, they actually run on two 15-hour days (with a nap between instead of a full sleep cycle). I myself did that when I was younger, and its not really uncommon in kids.

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            • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @06:35AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @06:35AM (#1200438)

              In 'olden times', a slightly longer cycle body clock was an advantage. The sun coming up each day provided a reset anyway and the slightly longer cycle made it easy to adjust to changing seasons.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @04:18AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @04:18AM (#1200412)

          You are looking to join NASA on Mars.

          The schedule is based on Mars day not Earth.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 30 2021, @02:39AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 30 2021, @02:39AM (#1200763)

            Which time zone on Mars and is that daylight savings or standard time.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @04:56PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @04:56PM (#1200258)

      More or less, just without the trip to Mars.

      Eventually nobody can afford to live and capitalism is overthrown.

      That's not a good thing.

      • (Score: 0, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @07:16PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @07:16PM (#1200283)

        Better than socialism, where some people get some stuff free.

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by mhajicek on Sunday November 28 2021, @09:13PM

          by mhajicek (51) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 28 2021, @09:13PM (#1200320)

          Getting stuff for free is great! It the government taking your stuff without compensation that sucks.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @07:36PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @07:36PM (#1200289)

        Compact Compact Compact Living. Coffin-sized housing, you'll love it.

        • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Sunday November 28 2021, @09:57PM

          by mhajicek (51) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 28 2021, @09:57PM (#1200332)

          You mean compost living?

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  • (Score: 1, Disagree) by crafoo on Sunday November 28 2021, @05:03PM (9 children)

    by crafoo (6639) on Sunday November 28 2021, @05:03PM (#1200261)

    The populace demands free money: welfare, social security, "free" healthcare, etc. The populace is too stupid to understand the most very basic economics. They refuse to pay their share in taxes - they want other people's money. So the government prints money, as raising taxes just gets them voted out of office. Everyone wants other people's money, no one wants to pay. Inflation ensues. Prices of everything goes up - all that free money.

    As housing costs skyrocket under capitalism

    Free money and redistribution of wealth resulting in the highest inflation in decades is not capitalism my friend. We have a word for it - communism. Let's not pretend to be stupid.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @05:06PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @05:06PM (#1200263)

      I don't recall working class struggle twisting the arm of the Fed.

      It looks more like the bourgeoisie is responsible for the Fed printing money. They can't stand the bust that needs to happen, so they're flailing around with MMT trying to keep the music going because they all know that when the music stops, one of them has to become a prole.

      Your entire post is projection.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @06:24PM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @06:24PM (#1200277)

      "Let's not pretend to be stupid."

      Yes, post it here for everyone to read! It will never cease to amaze me how eagerly republicans swallow the lies from their leaders that shifts the blame elsewhere.

      • (Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @08:10PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @08:10PM (#1200297)

        What do stupid people looking like pretending not to be stupid? Very stable geniuses.

      • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @08:53PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @08:53PM (#1200308)

        And, what do Democrats swallow along with the lies their leaders tell them? Is that you, Monica Lewinsky?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @09:54PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @09:54PM (#1200330)

          They swallow Bill Clinton's 10" sausage and spill sauce down their dress AMIRITE???

          • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @02:29AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @02:29AM (#1200377)

            These days, it's Brandons Vienna sausage, shriveled and dessicated, without any sauce.

            • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @02:48AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @02:48AM (#1200389)

              Ok Incel.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @01:27AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @01:27AM (#1200364)

        The republicans also waste money on useless things like unneeded wars and whatnot. That doesn't excuse the democrats from all their spending programs that just amount to more inflation either. Both parties have their issues.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @06:37AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @06:37AM (#1200440)

          Stop swallowing the kool-aid. Republicans may be more nationalistic, but the democrats are bigger war-mongers.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @06:16PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @06:16PM (#1200275)

    Soleri started work on his prototype Arcology c.1970, lots of small rooms there!
    https://www.arcosanti.org/ [arcosanti.org]

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @06:37PM (22 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @06:37PM (#1200280)

    Frankly the system we had made no consideration for material limitations. Smaller spaces, in most contexts, should've been the status quo. It's pretty absurd in general to have a precedent set for acre lots with 2000ft² buildings as the status quo. It's also obscene that as a product smaller facilities are outmoded through a variety of means. From everything I've seen these huge spaces are largely empty, and are unused except in their capacity to store vast troves of functionally vacuous furniture to remedy the sensation of emptiness that comes alongside the vast footprint. But everyone has this model in their head that they need a single family home with 2000ft². There's a slew of complications that come alongside this, all of which are ultimately detrimental.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @07:20PM (19 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @07:20PM (#1200284)

      So why are people so stupid that they buy a large house and fill it with inanimate trophies to stop feeling the barren, soul-crushing emptiness? Something's missing in this picture.

      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @08:20PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @08:20PM (#1200299)

        My "big" house is filled with children. Quit projecting.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Sunday November 28 2021, @09:04PM (17 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 28 2021, @09:04PM (#1200315) Homepage Journal

        What AC said. It's hard to raise children in a home less than 1000 sq ft. 'Specially in a city, where sending them out to play is likely to result in being run over, or shot in a gang war.

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        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @09:56PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @09:56PM (#1200331)

          That's why we have juve, for the urban kids. Keeps them out of trouble.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @11:04PM (15 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @11:04PM (#1200346)

          'Specially in a city, where sending them out to play is likely to result in being run over, or shot in a gang war.

          Is this an American "freedoms" thing?

          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday November 29 2021, @02:22AM (14 children)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 29 2021, @02:22AM (#1200371) Homepage Journal

            Well, yes, actually it is. Just elect Democrats, who push the socialist agenda, while at the same time disarming honest citizens, all while defunding the police and declining to prosecute criminals. It doesn't take long for gang warfare to become the norm. Gang leaders are treated like etrepreneurs in the enlightened world we live in.

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            • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @06:54AM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @06:54AM (#1200444)

              Ummm, what is an,

              Gang leaders are treated like etrepreneurs

              etrepreneur? Does this have something to do with Trepanation? Or is is just yet again another failure by the Miniscule Runaway to comprehend Langue Française? So near New Orleans, but so far from culture and education, that is our Runaway. Arkansas for lever! Or something.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @02:02PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @02:02PM (#1200512)

                Scroll down to the next comment. A more intelligent person than yourself managed to understand the misspelling of a word. Try harder, troll.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @02:38PM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @02:38PM (#1200524)

                This is a blog comment, not a dissertation. If your thinking is so robotic that you can't even interpret a simple typo you need to upgrade your brain's spell correction software.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @10:11PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @10:11PM (#1200715)

                  Because the parent

                  Just elect Democrats, who push the socialist agenda, while at the same time disarming honest citizens, all while defunding the police and declining to prosecute criminals.

                  is super not-robotic-totally-reasonable.

                  Republicans, delicate stupid snowflakes.

            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by engblom on Monday November 29 2021, @08:23AM (9 children)

              by engblom (556) on Monday November 29 2021, @08:23AM (#1200451)

              I am not an American, nor do I live in USA. However, comparing to most of the world the US Democrats are hardly socialist at all. In most European countries they would be considered a right wing party, while the Republicans would be considered an ultra right wing party. Regarding "socialist" agenda, the only way to get down crime is to take care of the citizens. I know this from my own country. With proper health care and social security nobody needs to go robbing or selling drugs when someone gets unemployed, ill, etc. It is not a coincidence that no other country in the whole world is having as much of their population in prison as the US (639 per 100 000 according to Wikipedia). Drugs are illegal in my country but still we have very few in prison (53 per 100 000).

              With proper social security for the citizens you do not need to defend yourself anymore. I do not lock my car and I usually leave the door to our house unlocked and I have never had anything stolen and nobody has ever tried to rob me. Also as crime goes down you need less polices to handle the crime.

              • (Score: 2, Insightful) by engblom on Monday November 29 2021, @09:06AM

                by engblom (556) on Monday November 29 2021, @09:06AM (#1200461)

                I am not an American, nor do I live in USA. However, comparing to most of the world the US Democrats are hardly socialist at all. In most European countries they would be considered a right wing party, while the Republicans would be considered an ultra right wing party. Regarding "socialist" agenda, the only way to get down crime is to take care of the citizens. I know this from my own country. With proper health care and social security nobody needs to go robbing or selling drugs when someone gets unemployed, ill, etc. It is not a coincidence that no other country in the whole world is having as much of their population in prison as the US (639 per 100 000 according to Wikipedia). Drugs are illegal in my country but still we have very few in prison (53 per 100 000).

                With proper social security for the citizens you do not need to defend yourself anymore. I do not lock my car and I usually leave the door to our house unlocked and I have never had anything stolen and nobody has ever tried to rob me. Also as crime goes down you need less polices to handle the crime.

                I also want to add one thing more about costs: it is expensive to take people through the legal system before they are judged, it is expensive to keep people in prison and it is expensive to have a big police force. Also people sitting in prison do not have any real income they could pay taxes on. Consider this if you think it is too expensive to take care of people. In the long run a good social system will save money.

              • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday November 29 2021, @01:58PM (4 children)

                by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 29 2021, @01:58PM (#1200511) Homepage Journal

                I see how citizens are taken care of in Europe. That's interesting and all, but I also see how criminals are taken care of in Europe. THAT is what we've been doing all wrong for ~100 years.

                I've mentioned several times that we criminalize everything. How 'bout Eric Garner, who the police officially say was arrested for selling single cigarettes on the streets of NYC. I mean, come on, do Euros arrest and prosecute people for selling crap on the street? License or no license, what would it matter if someone bought packs of cigarettes, and sold the pack one cigarette at a time? Maybe if he stole the cigarettes from a warehouse, and the city and state never got their tax cut on the smokes. But Garner purchased his smokes from stores where taxes were paid.

                Marijuana. Millions of people have been sent to prison for long terms for stupid marijuana offenses. I mean, literally millions of people. With the 'three strikes and you're out' system introduced by Clinton and Biden, relatively innocent kids could be caught the third time for marijuana possession, and be sentenced to life without parole.

                I'm sure that you can see, we don't need what you call "proper care" of citizens to end that classroom-to-prison railroad. Stop locking people up for bullshit, and let them get on with life.

                At the same time, we're far too lenient on real criminals. Every day, we read about dangerous criminals being treated like children who poked a sister with an elbow. That Brooks character who killed six and injured another fifty? He had tried to run his ex girl friend over, and injured her, only weeks before driving through a crowd of people.

                Yeah, we have a broken system, but I don't think it's broken in the way you think. Or, not as badly broken in the ways you think.

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                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @03:22PM (3 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @03:22PM (#1200537)

                  Much of the problem is that U.S. criminalizes things for the wrong reasons. They do it to protect the profit margins of large corporations that sell competing products. That's partly why the FDA bans so many dietary supplements (though, granted, many of those dietary supplements are unproven, it should be MY choice to determine what I want to take), that's why they ban so many substances after the patents expire, that's why the FDA prohibits consumers from directly buying drugs from other countries like Canada, etc... The FDA works for big pharma. That's why drug prices are so high here in the U.S.

                  • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @03:30PM (2 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @03:30PM (#1200545)

                    Not to mention all of the cumbersome licensing that's required for every little thing you want to do in states like California. It's almost impossible to make a living without obtaining and maintaining all of these expensive licenses and keeping the licensing bureaus and trade schools funded at our expense. While much of it is good there is a social cost to it so we need to make sure we aren't going overboard either.

                    For instance, in California you must pay a fee to renew your drivers license every four years. In other states it's ten years or so. It's just for the DMV to collect more money.

                    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday November 29 2021, @08:32PM (1 child)

                      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 29 2021, @08:32PM (#1200677) Homepage Journal

                      In other states it's ten years or so.

                      For most of my life, it's been two years, or four years, at the licensee's option. In more recent years, it seems that six years is optional, I've never seen 10 years. It would take more internet searches than I'm willing to do to prove either way.

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                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 30 2021, @10:17PM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 30 2021, @10:17PM (#1201000)

                        When I looked it up for Nevada it's once every eight years. For Arizona I guess it's every 12 years?

                        "ARIZONA: Licenses expire on the 65th birthday, and until then drivers only need new photos every 12 years — making Arizona unique in how long a license can last."

                        https://www.myimprov.com/arizona-drivers-license-does-expire/ [myimprov.com]

                        I know I've seen the driver's licenses of people from these surrounding states and was surprised at how far into the future some of them expire compared to California (based on the expiration dates printed on the licenses).

              • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @05:06PM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @05:06PM (#1200584)

                I'm not sure what country you come from but something that works in a small tight knit mono-cultured country with strict borders may not be transferable to a larger multi-cultured country with loose borders (and not just country borders, state borders as well). A European country is about the size of a U.S. state and the problem is that something that may work in one location that doesn't work in another would result in people from that other location (ie: another state or neighborhood) spilling over their crimes into the location where it works (ie: the criminals from one neighborhood stealing from those of another). Smaller European countries have the luxury of better locking out people from neighboring areas out of their country because they have more autonomy and control of how to handle their smaller spaces to work in. European countries have much stricter border controls than the U.S. and they confine much greater uniform control over a much smaller area. Different U.S. states and counties and cities may handle crime differently and even if your state or location handles it well if a neighboring state or location doesn't the result might be that people from a neighboring location might creep into your location and commit crimes. An entire country confined to a small location can better block those people from entering, a neighborhood, city, or state may have a lot more difficulty controlling for that.

                Even in the U.S. there are good neighborhoods and bad ones. Certain neighborhoods may be good, for instance, because they have limited ways to enter and exit so someone that enters can be blocked off from making an easy getaway because the cops can easily block the exit paths (ie: no nearby freeways). Lots of factors contribute to crime rates in various neighborhoods such as how roads are laid out and how easy it is for someone to stop in the middle of the road, grab something from, say, a business area, and get away.

                Not sure I believe the genetics part of it (I think it's mostly cultural, many people from Africa that come to the U.S. are very hard working and honest and are often more successful than the whites) but here is a comment I read somewhere.

                "The genetics and culture of Europeans. Northern European crime rates globally are nearly identical. White crime levels on north america are about the same as those in Australia,. New Zealand and northern Europe among st white people And for example the same applies to black crime levels throughout the west, the same in Europe as in north america etc. The same applies to other ethnic groups. For example Chinese inside and outside of China"

                I disagree with this. Statistically if you look at people from any race that come from dual parent families they are just about as successful as any group of people from dual parent families. African Americans from dual parent families are just about as successful as whites from dual parent families. Whites from single parent families are just about as unsuccessful and prone to becoming criminals as African Americans from single parent families.

                I think culture plays a much larger role and what works for European countries may not work for Americans because a strong social net to fall on would result in certain people taking advantage, having more children that don't work, resulting in more single parent family structures and more crime and more people abusing the social net which would place an undue burden on everyone else.

                A one size fits all doesn't work. We need to better target the underlying issues. Perhaps a strong social net is a good thing but it won't work unless we figure out how to target people's problems on the individual level as well. A strong social net doesn't work if too many people would take advantage of it and it doesn't work if you have too many people that would still become criminals and drug addicts regardless. It starts at the home, we need both good government on the larger scale but we also need good people/citizens on the smaller scale (governments are composed of citizens).

                • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @05:13PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @05:13PM (#1200587)

                  (same poster)
                  Also, I hear in some European countries like Serbia, everyone is assigned a psychologist. I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing (depending on the psychologist and what they push, we don't want some woke, single parent promoting, psychologists).

                  In the U.S. seeing a psychologist is almost taboo. It suggests there is something wrong with you. The thing is we all have issues to some extent and assigning everyone a professional psychologist that they are assigned to periodically visit, similar to a periodic general practitioner for a general checkup, just to talk without necessarily being labeled insane or having mental issues (which could have ramifications on you professionally) or requiring everyone to take meds (something pharma would love to push, so we need to be careful of that) could be a good thing. But it needs to be done carefully as well.

              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday November 29 2021, @10:33PM

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 29 2021, @10:33PM (#1200719) Journal

                However, comparing to most of the world the US Democrats are hardly socialist at all. In most European countries they would be considered a right wing party, while the Republicans would be considered an ultra right wing party.

                Most of Europe is not "most of the world". I think the centuries of European migration to the US, perhaps combined with the complete failure of Fascism in Europe and the moderately greater success of commerce and industry in the US led to a strong ideological dichotomy between the two regions.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday November 29 2021, @05:31AM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 29 2021, @05:31AM (#1200431) Journal

      Frankly the system we had made no consideration for material limitations.

      What material limitations? This is bike shed stuff. We have better problems than how much materials are used in construction and such. But those better problems are hard to understand and sometimes hard to improve - like how to increase our lifespans, for example.

      It's pretty absurd in general to have a precedent set for acre lots with 2000ft² buildings as the status quo.

      Nobody is forcing you to buy one.

      But everyone has this model in their head that they need a single family home with 2000ft².

      So what?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 30 2021, @11:14PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 30 2021, @11:14PM (#1201015)

      Well, here is an example of where such things can be a good thing.

      LTT is About to Change.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt3-6BsWlPk [youtube.com]

      Much of this innovation is needed and you don't really see it anywhere else.

      People complain 'well, the rich have way more than everyone else, that's not fair' etc... but under capitalism everyone is better off overall. Google, Facebook, Youtube, Windows, etc... started in the U.S. where you have people with a bunch of extra money sitting around that they can use to invest into creating new things. They do a MUCH better job of starting things that the market would demand much better than any government could ever imagine doing. Taking that away from the innovators, taking away their capital that they can use to further innovate with, would make everyone much worse off in the long run.

      I'm not rich. I'm just not jealous and envious of those that have more than me because I realize that, in the long run, maybe they are better than me at using that money and capital to create new things that ultimately benefit me. Letting those that have a history of efficiently creating great things profit from the great things they create so that they can use those profits to create even more great things.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @01:21AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @01:21AM (#1200362)

    What does capitalism have to do with it. It's the increase in population that has everything to do with it. If you previously had 100 homes and 200 people that averages to 2 people per home. Now that we freely let all the illegals in and supported them and gave them free stuff and rights and everything and they come from poor uneducated countries with high birth rates we have 1000 people per 100 homes (exaggerating) and so that amounts to 10 people per home unless we start being more and more compact and congested and foraging more and more land and resources.

    The solution is population control. Control our borders and stop having so many children. The democrats also need to stop paying people to keep having children.

    We are now more socialistic than ever and the problem is only getting worse. We didn't have this problem decades ago when we were more conservative and capitalistic. Yet you still want to blame capitalism despite the fact that things continue to go downhill the more socialist we become.

    Plus socialist countries have strict border controls. The U.S. democrats want to both have open borders and socialist programs.

    and if you are complaining that everything is so expensive you should then be complaining about all the high taxes you pay. Those taxes could help pay for your expenses instead of going to the government to squander. Inflation is also a tax.

    • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @01:50AM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @01:50AM (#1200367)

      Let's also not forget that if you only make like $40K a year in California you are now required to pay like $200 a month for health insurance with zero regard for health status. If you make like $10K less a year that goes down to like $33 a month. This health insurance tax is a tax on the middle to lower class to fund the unemployed drug addicts and perhaps the illegals. What someone pays in health insurance should have little to do with income and more to do with their health instead of requiring them to fund someone else's poor health decisions based on your working class income. Or at the very least someone making $40K a year shouldn't be required to pay $200 a month in health insurance because, like I said, that's not taxing the wealthy, that's taxing the lower to middle class.

      Just like the 'tax gap' attempts to let the IRS further look at everyone's bank accounts that they want to pass is just another attempt to further tax the lower and middle taxes. The rich already substantially pay all their taxes. But they call it the tax gap claiming that it's to tax the rich that aren't paying their taxes. You have to be an idiot to believe that. (not that I care, I'm under a W2 so I pay all my taxes but I'm not stupid, I know the intent of the law).

      The democrats are not about helping the working class. They're about further taxing the lower and working class and squandering the money for their own benefit. That's what they do in socialist countries. They tax most of your income so that you struggle to pay your bills and the government squanders the money. That's what the democrats here want (not that the republicans are better, they just squander the money on different things).

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @02:47AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @02:47AM (#1200387)

        To further tax the lower and middle classes *

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @05:20PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @05:20PM (#1200588)

        I guess we should vote for the fascists then. Makes sense.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @06:27PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @06:27PM (#1200624)

          The Nazi party was called the Nazi socialist party. So, no, I wouldn't support voting for people that are even further to the left than the democrats.

          • (Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Tuesday November 30 2021, @05:35PM

            by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 30 2021, @05:35PM (#1200905)

            The National Socialist German Worker's Party had as much to do with socialism as much that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy and/or a republic.

            Just because it is in the name doesn't make it one.

            --
            Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
        • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @06:30PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @06:30PM (#1200625)

          When you talk about Nazis and the KKK you are specifically referring to the democrats. The Nazi party (the Nazi socialist party), the KKK, they were democrats/socialists. The U.S. Republican party was created to oppose slavery. The U.S. republican party freed the slaves, they gave blacks and women the right to vote, they had the first black congressman in office, the democrats passed the Jim Crow laws.

          Stop being your typical democrat/socialist that wants to rewrite history and assign the unpopular history that your party was responsible for onto your opposing party.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @05:28AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @05:28AM (#1200429)

      Because under communism everyone would be starving to death so there would be no population increase :)

      • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @11:32AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @11:32AM (#1200472)

        We used to be a lot more capitalistic and we used to be much better off than we are now and much better off than socialist countries. Now we're much more socialist and we are starting to have the same struggles that socialist countries have. Yet somehow the solution is even more socialism. It makes no sense.

  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @02:26AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @02:26AM (#1200374)

    "As housing costs skyrocket under capitalism"

    The economy was good under Trump, at least before Covid. Trump got the vaccine out. We now have democrats running the house, the senate, and the presidency and things have gotten much worse ever since. State governments are also more left leaning than ever and things have gotten worse. Yet you blame capitalism. Interesting.

    You do know that the one thing worth investing in in socialist/communist countries is property right? You know they also having housing problems in China despite being socialist/communist? They invest in property because businesses don't do good there and so they don't invest in businesses. You know in poor socialist countries it's the same thing in general? This problem is not under 'capitalism' it's becoming more and more of a problem under as this country is becoming more socialist. Not to mention the population increase.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @02:34AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @02:34AM (#1200380)

      Heresy. Lady Kameltoe will be sending the FBI inquisitors around shortly. One simply does not praise Trump, or demean Lord Brandon on the internet without repercussion.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @02:57AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 29 2021, @02:57AM (#1200396)

        Hillary will be by soon to update your eunuchs.