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Journal by turgid
Which LISP should I learn? Years ago I read about Scheme and wrote some hello world level code. I learned about lambda functions and currying. I also looked at racket. A few years ago, much of my day job involved the JVM and I was getting sick of Java so I got a book on Clojure, which is a very nice language, but I never wrote any.
A few days ago I downloaded and built the latest version of DrRacket.
Should I go straight to Haskell? Or what about other functional languages? Is Erlang worth a look?
I need something stimulating to distract my brain from the mundane nature of everyday life, and mediocre programming languages.
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Hand me a pair of leather pants and a CASIO keyboard -- I'm living for today!
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 27 2021, @10:45AM (12 children)
A big advantage of Clojure is runs within your existing JVM playpen or, it's Clojurescript variant, in the browser.
I found Haskell too esoteric with its everything is a monad.
But there are plenty of tutorials for ML online and F# is a dialect of OCAML that runs on .net runtime for Linux, so...
But if it's for "work" then mainstream languages are gradually introducing functional concepts. Kotlin looks a lot more functional with its Scala-inspired type inference.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Saturday November 27 2021, @10:46AM (10 children)
It's purely for personal interest now. I need something detached from the work environment.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 27 2021, @02:32PM (9 children)
Instead, you could look further afield. Find something completely unrelated to programming, or even computers. There's a crapton of stuff that needs to be done in the real world that isn't getting done because the pandemic is causing a shortage of volunteers and an increase in demand. Animal shelters, food banks, delivery to shut-ns, daily phone wellness checks, suicide prevention hotlines, walk a dog, get a dog, etc.
Getting away from the keyboard and reconnecting with humans will probably be sufficient to make your current languages interesting again because they won't be boring any more due to over-exposure. Plus you'll feel better about yourself and your place in the world.
That's in contrast to the usual suspects who spend all day fucking around arguing on this and other sites because they literally have nothing better to do.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 27 2021, @02:51PM (4 children)
i.e. Get A Life
(Score: 4, Interesting) by turgid on Saturday November 27 2021, @03:53PM (3 children)
I've been on one epic sea voyage this summer and planted over 100 trees, amongst other things.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 27 2021, @09:54PM
Good. You have a life.
(Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 27 2021, @11:16PM
That won't work. You need to plant them on land or they float away.
(Score: 3, Funny) by DECbot on Friday December 03 2021, @05:13PM
Spreading invasive species around the world by boat? I presume you are also speculating on lumber futures in anticipation of a big payout when the lumber industry collapses after a lack of healthy inventory of harvestable trees. MI6 has taken interest in your charitable activities, Mr. turgid. Or should I call you by your better know name, Mr. Ernst Stavro Blofeld.
cats~$ sudo chown -R us /home/base
(Score: 2) by turgid on Saturday November 27 2021, @03:51PM (2 children)
I'm a PHB now. I haven't written a line of proper code at work in well over three months.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @04:47AM (1 child)
In that case, start out with something fun...like Logo! Or one of the more recent spinoffs, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logo_(programming_language)#Influence [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2) by turgid on Sunday November 28 2021, @10:39AM
We did Logo at school in the 1980s (but the turtle had run out of batteries). That was after I had done BASIC, FORTH and Z80 assembly language at home for fun.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 27 2021, @10:44PM
Aren't those two synonyms? Care for some cat on rice, or dog foo yong?
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 28 2021, @05:46AM
F# is a good compromise on functional languages. They are also making it easier to incorporate F# libraries with other CLR languages, so it may even come in handy later.