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posted by martyb on Thursday December 02 2021, @03:35AM   Printer-friendly
from the liberty-or-death dept.

Judge blocks Biden vaccine rule, citing “liberty interests of the unvaccinated”

A federal judge yesterday blocked a Biden administration COVID-19 vaccine mandate for health care workers, granting a request for preliminary injunction filed by Republican attorneys general from 14 states.

US District Judge Terry Doughty ruled that the government lacks authority to implement the rule that "requires the staff of twenty-one types of Medicare and Medicaid healthcare providers to receive one vaccine by December 6, 2021, and to receive the second vaccine by January 4, 2022." Providers that don't comply face penalties, including "termination of the Medicare/Medicaid Provider Agreement."

The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) mandate regulates over 10.3 million health care workers in the US, of which 2.4 million are unvaccinated. The Biden vaccine rule is being challenged by the attorneys general from Louisiana, Montana, Arizona, Alabama, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Utah, West Virginia, Kentucky, and Ohio. The Republican AGs' lawsuit was filed against CMS and the US Department of Health and Human Services.

The preliminary injunction they won applies nationwide except for 10 states that "are already under a preliminary injunction order dated November 29, 2021, issued by the Eastern District of Missouri," a court order said. Those states are Alaska, Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, New Hampshire, Nebraska, Wyoming, North Dakota, and South Dakota.

What states did not participate in this lawsuit and were not covered by the earlier preliminary injunction — i.e. got swept into this decision?

California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, District Of Columbia, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, and Wisconsin.


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  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday December 02 2021, @04:01AM (18 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 02 2021, @04:01AM (#1201359) Journal

    Yep. Infectious disease. You might expect that the populations of poor countries that can't afford the vax would all have dropped dead by now. Oddly, though, the highest casualty rates have been in wealthier countries, where good health care is available, and the vax is available.

    Things that make you go "hmmmmmmm".

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @04:08AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @04:08AM (#1201363)

    Deaths are down because a handful of heros began rotating organite. In one region they messed up and put an organite pyramid on their solstice list. However, once rotation was initiated the expected benefit occurred. Rotation is the KEY!

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @04:39AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @04:39AM (#1201372)

    ... the highest casualty rates have been in wealthier countries ...

    Because these wealthy countries at least had the capacity to monitor and report on their epidemic casualties. You think India had suffered no less? You think Africa suffered no less? Because they were not reported on CNN and FoxNews?

    You claimed to be sailor. Didn't you learn anything from your overseas assignments? Or did you only get a cushy postings in the North America and the Western Europe?

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Mykl on Thursday December 02 2021, @05:08AM (11 children)

    by Mykl (1112) on Thursday December 02 2021, @05:08AM (#1201380)

    the highest casualty rates have been in wealthier countries

    i.e. those countries that are: a) better at counting things like this; and b) honest. China's numbers are down to zero, because their government has told us that is the case.

    On a not-really-related note, Malaysia's Tourism Minister has very helpfully informed us that there are no gay people in his country [cnn.com].

    I love how you are happy to accept Government statements when they support your preconceived notions.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @05:30AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @05:30AM (#1201388)

      If you need government statements to see your pandemic, then you have a pandemic of government statements.

    • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday December 02 2021, @09:42AM (8 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 02 2021, @09:42AM (#1201419) Journal

      African nations see almost annual outbreaks of highly transmissable diseases, with extremely high fatality rates, which they manage to control, and keep from spreading.

      Yet, I hear you saying "Dem Darkies ain't smart enuf to count their dead." Where else do we hear that recurring theme? "Dem Darkies ain't smart enuf to get a voter ID card!"

      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @11:16AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @11:16AM (#1201431)

        Fucking rural American racist motherfucker Runaway. You are too stupid to count? Too stupid to think? Just stupid enough to vote for Trump, or Tom Cotton.

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @11:53AM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @11:53AM (#1201439)

        Smart has nothing to do with voter ID. Restrictive locations and hours that favor white collar workers with disposable income, personal vehicles to travel to the few open spots, and plenty of flex time or work from home are next to impossible to meet for someone working two blue collar jobs to make ends meet.

        Fuck your noise. You're just spouting the propaganda to make a LITER disenfranchisement scheme sound reasonable on the face of it--to people with the privilege to be unaware of what working class life is really like.

        When you're only open Monday to Friday, 10 AM to 2 PM, and closed for an hour lunch, qnd only in the wealthy white suburbs, you cannot in good conscience call that being accessible to all citizens. Take your racist trash somewhere else. Your lies are stale and tired.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @11:55AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @11:55AM (#1201440)

          *LITERAL disenfranchisement scheme.

          Fuck autocorrect.

        • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @12:30PM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @12:30PM (#1201446)

          Keep repeating the talking points. In effect, "It's racissss because we say so!" I would ask you for numbers, outlining how many black people were denied the vote because of any specific law. But, I'm sure that CNN has a list of fake numbers they've published.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @12:44PM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @12:44PM (#1201450)

            Talking points?

            How about you REPLY TO MY COMMENT instead of deflecting entirely.

            I'm sure there's someone to fit your stereotype, but it's not me. I don't need someone else's talking points (and I have zero idea what CNN or any other cable network is saying). I have a brain of my own, and I've been making individually reasoned arguments of my own for decades. If you can't be bothered to engage with the comment, go to Facebook or whatever other echo chamber you frequent.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @12:54PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @12:54PM (#1201453)

              There's nothing to reply to. All you have is a bare-ass accusation that Republicans don't want black people to vote.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @12:57PM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @12:57PM (#1201455)

                You just made up that, because not a word of what you said is in my post.

                Are you feeling okay? Like, you're actually imagining things that have demonstrably not happened.

                I'm worried about you.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @05:32PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @05:32PM (#1201556)

                  APK, I mean runaway1956, has had mental health issues for yeaaaars.

    • (Score: 2) by wisnoskij on Saturday December 04 2021, @06:55PM

      by wisnoskij (5149) <reversethis-{moc ... ksonsiwnohtanoj}> on Saturday December 04 2021, @06:55PM (#1202166)

      So you are saying that every single poor country is both stupid and dishonest?

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Opportunist on Thursday December 02 2021, @05:08AM (3 children)

    by Opportunist (5545) on Thursday December 02 2021, @05:08AM (#1201381)

    You really think that in a country where there are barely any reliable birth certificates or bureaucracy that deals with counting the living they give a fuck why people croak and become dead people?

    You're living in a rather sheltered country where they actually care, and can know, what you die from. That's not necessarily the case in countries where you might have heard about but never seen a MD. People die there and get buried without ever finding out why they died.

    • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @05:44AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 02 2021, @05:44AM (#1201390)

      Dude, people either die or not. If they do not die in any unusual number, your rant is totally meaningless. When a centenarian dies, they do not need a QR-code to be let into heaven or hell. Be it "pneumonia" written on their death certificate as in 2019, or the newfangled "COVID" as fashion demands in 2021, or no certificate at all - dead is dead, and living is living.

      • (Score: 3, Touché) by Opportunist on Thursday December 02 2021, @05:50AM

        by Opportunist (5545) on Thursday December 02 2021, @05:50AM (#1201393)

        Are you a politician? You just spent 3 lines talking but I have no idea what you want to say. What the hell is your argument?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 03 2021, @03:04AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 03 2021, @03:04AM (#1201724)

        Should I get a QR code in case I die before my 100th birthday so I'm not stuck in limbo forever?