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Judge blocks Biden vaccine rule, citing “liberty interests of the unvaccinated”
A federal judge yesterday blocked a Biden administration COVID-19 vaccine mandate for health care workers, granting a request for preliminary injunction filed by Republican attorneys general from 14 states.
US District Judge Terry Doughty ruled that the government lacks authority to implement the rule that "requires the staff of twenty-one types of Medicare and Medicaid healthcare providers to receive one vaccine by December 6, 2021, and to receive the second vaccine by January 4, 2022." Providers that don't comply face penalties, including "termination of the Medicare/Medicaid Provider Agreement."
The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) mandate regulates over 10.3 million health care workers in the US, of which 2.4 million are unvaccinated. The Biden vaccine rule is being challenged by the attorneys general from Louisiana, Montana, Arizona, Alabama, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Utah, West Virginia, Kentucky, and Ohio. The Republican AGs' lawsuit was filed against CMS and the US Department of Health and Human Services.
The preliminary injunction they won applies nationwide except for 10 states that "are already under a preliminary injunction order dated November 29, 2021, issued by the Eastern District of Missouri," a court order said. Those states are Alaska, Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, New Hampshire, Nebraska, Wyoming, North Dakota, and South Dakota.
What states did not participate in this lawsuit and were not covered by the earlier preliminary injunction — i.e. got swept into this decision?
California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, District Of Columbia, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, and Wisconsin.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday December 03 2021, @03:38PM (10 children)
Has it ever occurred to you that people who:
1. get vaccinated
2. wear masks
3. social distance
ARE actually THINKING for themselves?
It is the people who refuse to do the above that are following cult like irrational behavior of lemmings without "thinking" marching towards the cliff.
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(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday December 03 2021, @03:44PM (4 children)
It has occurred to me, yes. They soak in the fear mongering of the mainstream media, they think about the shit that scares them, and ultimately, run out to get the vax.
Now, you can extend the same courtesy to those who decline the vax. They've heard all the hyperbole, and decided that it's mostly hyperbole.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday December 06 2021, @03:32PM (3 children)
Bzzzzt. They take reasonable precautions. Sort like how people who look both ways before crossing the street "soak in the fear"
Just like I would to people who walk out into a busy street without looking both ways.
Getting vaxed is just one of many common sense things.
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(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 06 2021, @04:11PM (2 children)
Ahhh, you got your weekend supply of Kool Aid? All topped up now, and ready to repeat those talking points. Happy Monday!!
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday December 06 2021, @06:45PM (1 child)
We could talk about tornadoes. I assume Arkansas gets those.
People soaked in fear listen to the tornado warnings and take shelter underground. Those who can think for themselves and do not submit to "government control" ignore the warnings and go about their business as usual.
This is exactly how I see your support of the anti vax ignorance. You accuse the people who take precautions of not thinking, and of being fearful. Neither are true. I am less concerned about covid now that I am vaxxed than I was before. So is every vaxxed person I've spoken to. Which says how out of touch you are with people are are actually vaccinated. The two accusations you use "fear" and "not thinking for themselves" are in fact the exact opposite of the truth.
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(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 06 2021, @09:26PM
Tornadoes? We have a tornado shelter. I've never sheltered in it. Spiders and snakes live in it most of the time, and they don't like being kicked out into a storm.
(Score: 2) by wisnoskij on Saturday December 04 2021, @07:18PM (4 children)
Back when the government was saying, go on your vacations, go travel to china, it is perfectly safe. Were you telling all your friends to stay home and buckle down for a epidemic?
Back when the CDC was telling you to not wear a mask, that they did not work, were you making fun of people who wore masks on social media, or were you wearing one?
Because, while it might be circumstantial evidence, in my experience the exact same people who were publicly vocal about "those crazy people wearing face diapers" just became the people talking about "anti-maskers" a week later. And the people who said they would never take the "trump-vaccine" just became the ones calling for the forced vaccines.
While it is entirely possible you are a reasonable, sane, and intelligent person; perhaps it is just a bad coincidence that your philosophy has landed you right in the midst of a bunch of irrational nutjobs. You cannot expect people to take you seriously. I don't know if their is any solution, but you will just be lumped in with these people if you shares the same current beliefs even if your side does deserved to be argued.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday December 06 2021, @03:38PM (3 children)
I first ordered face masks in quantity in January 2020. I was never making fun of people wearing them. I can't make sense of what you are trying to say.
Back when
the governmentTRUMP was saying to travel to China, I would have been hesitant to do so because evidence was that COVID-19 has started in China and was spreading. I wouldn't and wouldn't have recommended anyone to travel there.I was never someone saying I wouldn't take a "trump vaccine". In fact, I had never heard that term before reading your post. If anything, Trump followers are the very people are are the most anti-vax. I've posted two different independent surveys from reputable pollsters in two separate journal articles on SN which show that, more than any other single factor, politics is the biggest determiner by far of whether someone will get vaccinated. And guess what: it is not the Trump supporters who are vaccine supporters. So you seem to have it backwards.
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(Score: 2) by wisnoskij on Monday December 06 2021, @04:21PM (1 child)
I am saying that people that push for more lockdowns, vaccinations, and similar things are often seen by others are cultish and brainwashed because of some very vocal people who currently share those views who didn't back when it most made sense to.
I am saying that unfortunately, even if you never parroted the CDC, world health organization, CNN, or social media you will still be lumped in with the crazies as they are just so vocal.
For your second half. I am not talking about who takes or does not take the vaccine, I am talking about who just parrots blindly. Back when Biden went on recorded every other day denigrating the vaccine and its safety. I could get behind that, I could say yes, we do need transparency, accountability, and proof of safety. But when he just did a 180 and changed his stance the second the election was over, anyone who just followed him is clearly just brainwashed.
Did we really need to get political? Come on man, have some sense. Sure, I absolutely believe that Trump was not hard enough on keeping the virus out of North America back in early 2019. But when he finally got around to trying to close borders and lockdown the countries he was fighting Democrats to do this, he was absolutely a month or so ahead of the curve on this is still 2 months behind sane people and probably over 6 months behind informed and knowledgeable people. But from day one, Trump has been pushing lockdown, border closers, and vaccine. He celebrated vaccines in office, he called for people to take them out of office.
Harris and Biden could of said, "we disagree on a lot of things, but I agree with him that vaccines are safe and effective" Or they could of just said "vaccines are safe and effective" but instead we got:
"If and when the vaccine comes, it’s not likely to go through all the tests that need to be done, and the trials that are needed to be done." - Aug. 6, 2020, Joe Biden
And similar, anything Trump says about the vaccine is a lie, and it will probably be unsafe. And at best we get that if doctors and scientists can absolutely prove its efficacy than maybe we could overlook that Trump endorsed it.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday December 06 2021, @06:53PM
I would rather not. But it seems to be political whether I like it or not. Politics is by far the strongest predictor of vaccination status. It is just a fact.
Politics also seems to correlate with mask wearing. And belief it quite a few conspiracy theories about covid. So it is political regardless of what you and I may want. I would prefer people made decisions based on science, experts, medicine, understanding of how contageous diseases work, etc. The advice of doctors, even your own personal local doctor, and epidemologists, etc.
No matter what Biden said Aug 6, 2020, about 7 BILLION doses of vaccine have now been given globally. About 42% of the global population is fully vaccinated. That is a very solid statistical base at this point to know what problems it might cause and in what percentages of the population.
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(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 06 2021, @04:25PM
Waitaminit. TRUMP was encouraging people to travel to China? Citations needed.