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Dominion Voting wins key decision in lawsuit against Fox News
(don't shoot the messenger unless you intend to ask questions later)
I'll only quote facts reported in the article rather than any opinion. Each fact is either true or false, regardless of the source that reports it.
1: A judge in Delaware has found that Fox News' coverage of election fraud after the 2020 election may have been inaccurate, and is allowing a major defamation case against the right-wing TV network to move forward.
2: Judge Eric Davis of the Delaware Superior Court declined to dismiss Dominion Voting System's lawsuit against Fox News in a significant ruling Thursday.
3: The ruling will now allow Dominion to attempt to unearth extensive communications within Fox News as they gather evidence for the case, and the company may be able to interview the network's top names under oath.
4: Davis called out, in the 52-page opinion, that Fox News may have slanted its coverage to push election fraud, knowing the accusations were wrong.
5: Dominion alerted the network's anchors and executives to information that disproved accusations of widespread vote-switching following Donald Trump's re-election loss, the judge noted.
6: The lawsuit alleges Fox News personalities including Tucker Carlson, Jeanine Pirro, Sean Hannity and their on-air guests Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell and Mike Lindell spread lies about fraud in the 2020 election that hurt Dominion's business. It is one of several lawsuits Dominion has brought related to right-wing claims after the election, and is a major win for the company.
Was there bamboo on the ballots? Did the voting machines have constant contact with servers outside the US via Italian satellites?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday December 18 2021, @01:14AM (16 children)
Just demand paper and put the issue in its grave
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 18 2021, @04:31AM (9 children)
Hehe fusty leaks some more of his rightwing leanings. Gotta give you credit man, longest running troll that rarely gave real hints to your full opinions. Well beyond your tired harping of "dems bad, but both sides kekekekek."
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 18 2021, @04:53AM (4 children)
Heh, smell the democrat
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 18 2021, @04:40PM (3 children)
That not a democrat you smell, that DJT's diaper.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 18 2021, @04:51PM (1 child)
FTFY
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 18 2021, @05:20PM
That's not a democrat you smell, that's Runaway's diaper.
FTFY
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 18 2021, @08:45PM
Trump is a democrat
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 18 2021, @08:40PM (2 children)
:-) You are the funny... along with the rest of your shtick, you are making verifiable voting into a right wing crusade now? I guess congratulations are in order...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 18 2021, @09:28PM (1 child)
Interesting choice of wording, yes voting has become a rightwing crusade, a battle against their "enemy" that must be won at all costs and spurred on using the rightwing obsession with Christianity. Strange how every time there are investigations into elections we find out Republicans are the ones cheating, bending rules, and disenfranchising voters. At least you assholes have gone from lynchings to using legal measures with 2% plausible deniability. Still evil Republican bullshit, but moving in the right direction.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 19 2021, @01:25AM
Fascinating.. Interesting choice indeed!
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday December 21 2021, @05:48PM
The minor problem being all of the "Democrat Run States" ALREADY have paper and it's all the red states that don't.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday December 20 2021, @03:25PM (4 children)
The voting systems where I vote do use paper ballots that are human readable.
Once you show your ID, and they verify that you are on the voting rolls, for this particular voting station, they stamp a ballot and hand it to you. You take it to a booth, fill it out using an ink pen. Then take the ballot to the machine. You personally get to drop your ballot in to the machine. You can watch the ballot pass through the scanner. The green light comes on if nothing wrong or jammed, and the ballot passes through the machine as you watch through plexiglass to see your ballot fall into a cardboard box below, and the number of votes counter on the machine increases by one.
Now with this system, they get the efficiency of machines counting the votes. Yet manual recounts are possible. There are paper ballots that were hand marked by voters. Those can be recounted either by hand or by machine. Or by different machines. You could also "cut the deck" of ballots and scan half of them on another machine, and the other half on yet another machine and verify that the totals match. You could shuffle each half and re-re-count them again through the machine.
You could take a random small sample from a shuffled stack of ballots, hand count them, then scan them, and verify that the machine counted correctly.
I suspect SN readers could devise quite a few verification tests of the machine. Such as swapping machines between voting stations, and then recounting all the ballots at each station using machines from another station and verify that the counts still come out the same.
What is wrong with using machines? Especially if you have hand marked ballots by voters, and the ability to do manual recounts, or machine recounts, and many types of cross checking?
If a minstrel has musical instruments attached to his bicycle, can it be called a minstrel cycle?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday December 20 2021, @05:06PM (3 children)
Some don't provide the paper. [publicsource.org] That is unacceptable. As long as the ballot you personally marked is available for the count, it's all good. But people have to demand it to make it happen. Contrary to what some wackos may say, it is not a right wing conspiracy to demand a human verifiable accurate count of paper ballots, certainly much less conspiratorial than
Russiagate
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 4, Informative) by DannyB on Monday December 20 2021, @06:18PM (2 children)
We can completely agree on that. A paper ballot personally marked by the voter is a must have item.
Machines are only to speed up the counting process.
Here is the irony.
It has been pointed out on SN before, and I don't care to go dig it up, but the places that use paperless pure electronics voting machines are . . .
TA DA !!!
Red states!
All of the information on what types of voting equipment is used in various locations can be publicly obtained.
If a minstrel has musical instruments attached to his bicycle, can it be called a minstrel cycle?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday December 20 2021, @07:19PM
With the feeble opposition, it hardly matters what color they are. Our democratic congress has the constitutional authority (Art. 1 Sec. 4) to set it straight, and kill the gerrymandering for the cherry on top, but is allowing the sabotage to continue
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 21 2021, @12:46AM
People like to conveniently forget the connections between Diebold/Premier and Republicans. They also like to ignore the current connections between ES&S and Republicans. Which brings up an interesting observation: with all the noise Fox News, OANN, NewsMax, etc. were making about the election and pointing fingers at almost every election official or company regardless of how minor a role they actually played in the election, can you recall them ever mentioning ES&S? Doesn't it seem strange that the largest election company in the US wasn't mentioned even once?
If I were more paranoid, I'd think this was done on purpose to expand ES&S's market share at the expense of everyone else. When it comes time to replace the old equipment a large number of individuals on the right are going to have bad opinions about those companies and officials that approve of them. There doesn't even need to be a big conspiracy about that, only friends helping friends and self-reinforcing talking points that got out of hand.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday December 20 2021, @08:06PM
Definitely this. It is much harder to perpetrate mass fraud, the more people that have to be involved in said fraud. Electronic "voter fraud" could literally be a technical glitch.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"