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I'm writing this today, but it really takes place last Monday evening. (Today being Wednesday.)
In a nearby town about 45 min away is where some of my wife's family lives. Some of them run a small coffee shop that is closing (now closed) because of landlord of the large commercial building doesn't want a coffee shop there. Probably have other use ideas for the floor space more profitable than the lease money they earn now. Nobody knows for sure.
For the last three Sunday's some of us have gone there because it would soon be gone. On the first two Sunday's my wife and I went. Wore masks. Social distance. Etc.
On the first Sunday. One of the relatives, who is my friend, introduced me to his older brother. (we're all old men, fyi) After talking a bit, we fist-bumped instead of shaking hands as we parted.
On the 2nd Sunday. Nothing eventful. Talked with a few people including my friend whose brother I met the week prior. Didn't see the brother I met the week prior.
On the 3rd Sunday we didn't go because covid cases were on the increase in the local area. Sad because that was the final day the shop would be open. But hey we're now used to spending holidays alone in our house. Very sad. But no covid.
Next day, which brings me to last Monday evening. I get word through my wife that the person (the brother of a family member friend) I had met two weeks and a day ago has died from covid-19.
My first reaction was: WOW That was fast! I just met the guy. He seemed careful enough. (of course, I don't know vax status and don't ask unless people are coming into my home)
Second reaction between my wife and I were that if we had been exposed we would probably have symptoms by now. Of course, no symptoms as of the day I'm writing this. We rarely go out of our house. We even have groceries delivered to our door. Do Target pick up orders that get loaded into the vehicle trunk, etc. Amazon deliveries. Etc. (I do go to a deserted office every day because quiet and well lit.)
Some thoughts.
In the past I had posted that 1 in 500 Americans have died of covid-19. I know it is a joke to some people here.
Recently I googled and recalculated it to be 1 in 412 and posted that here.
As the numbers of dead go up and up, we will arrive at 1 in 400. Eventually 1 in 350. Etc.
The numbers don't lie. They are not fake news. They are statistics. And they represent real people who died of covid-19. The reasons don't matter so much.
Eventually everyone will know of someone within some small number of proximate connections who will (or has already) died from covid-19.
Once again, just to keep beating a dead horse: it is not vaccinated people who are filling up hospitals and taking up all the ICU beds. Wearing a mask is to protect other people more than yourself. Social distancing protects you both.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23 2021, @12:37PM (5 children)
In presenting the natural increase of cumulative statistic as something exceptional and scary.
The stupid liars lie; the smarter liars mislead.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by khallow on Thursday December 23 2021, @01:14PM (2 children)
Keep in mind that this is with a high level of vaccination and people engaging in masking, social distancing, and other protective behaviors.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23 2021, @01:27PM (1 child)
Keep in mind that the things you listed, demonstrably do nothing even medium-term. Look at Sweden, Belarus, African countries. If anything, your "level of vaccination" is correlated with MORE deaths per million.
This is December 2021. We DO have hard data already.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday December 27 2021, @01:09AM
The obvious rebuttal is that short term actions in epidemics have long term effects. Short term actions that keep covid from overwhelming the hospital system saves lots of lives. That's a demonstrated long term effect. I'll note also that during the 1918 flu pandemic, US cities had a large long term difference (such as overall cases, number of deaths, etc) in how they fared from the decisions they made about policies that affect the spread of the flu.
Let's indeed look at that hard data. But hard data can be misrepresented, such as the AC claiming that a short term study showed vaccination kills more people while ignoring that the study didn't show a difference in mortality for that period (the number of deaths difference was statistically insignificant) and didn't cover most of the period that a vaccination would protect against covid for (two years not a few weeks).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23 2021, @01:17PM (1 child)
is not cumulative, merely different deniminator (infections vs full pop). if cumulative would be quoting 1 in 150 via https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html [cdc.gov]
clearly that would be a different comparrison as you assert.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23 2021, @01:29PM
Do not drink and write.