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posted by martyb on Wednesday January 05 2022, @06:15PM   Printer-friendly

AMD Rembrandt Mobile

AMD announced Rembrandt 6000-series mobile processors with Zen 3+ CPU cores and RDNA2 integrated graphics.

The 8-core processors (e.g. 45W Ryzen 7 6800H and 15W Ryzen 7 6800U) all have 12 RDNA2 graphics cores (CUs), up from the previous generation Cezanne's 8 Vega graphics cores. This could mean a doubling of graphics performance. On the other hand, the 6-core processors (e.g. 15W Ryzen 7 6600U) slash this in half to only 6 RDNA2 CUs.

Rembrandt uses DDR5 or LPDDR5 memory and adds support for 40 Gbps USB4 ports, PCIe Gen 4.0 GPUs and storage, HDMI 2.1 and DisplayPort 2, and AV1 hardware decode.

There are also three "Barcelo" models which are refreshes of Cezanne chips (8-core Ryzen 7 5825U, 6-core Ryzen 5 5625U, and 4-core Ryzen 3 5425U).

Rembrandt will be one of the first products to integrate Microsoft's "Pluton" security chip.

Intel Alder Lake Mobile

Intel announced Alder Lake-H (high performance) and Alder Lake-U (low power) mobile processors, with a heterogeneous microarchitecture featuring performance (P) and efficiency (E) cores.

Alder Lake-H has a "base power" of 45 Watts and a "max turbo power" of 115 Watts. The top i9/i7 chips have 14 cores (6P + 8E). In the middle there is an i7-12650H with 10 cores (6P + 4E) and an i5-12600H and i5-12500H with 12 cores (4P + 8E), so that may lead to some confusion. Finally, there is an i5-12450H with 8 cores (4P + 4E).

Alder Lake-U has a "base power" of 15 Watts and a "max turbo power" of 55 Watts. At the top there are a few chips with 10 cores (2P + 8E) and 80 or 96 graphics execution units (EUs). The i3-1215U has 6 cores (2P + 4E) and 64 EUs. Finally there are a Pentium 8505 and Celeron 7305 with 5 cores (1P + 4E) and 48 EUs.

More

* Intel announced cheaper and lower power Alder Lake desktop CPUs, including CPUs made from a smaller die with no efficiency cores, and the world's fastest dual-core CPU (the Pentium G7400).
* AMD announced the Ryzen 7 5800X3D for a Spring 2022 launch. No other Zen 3 CPUs with stacked cache are planned.
* Zen 4 and the AM5 socket will launch sometime during the second half of 2022.
* AMD announced the RX 6500 XT ($200) and various mobile GPUs.
* Nvidia announced its RTX 3050 ($250) and RTX 3090 Ti desktop GPUs

See also: Intel Teases Core i9-12900KS Alder Lake CPU With Up To 5.5 GHz Boost Clock, 5.2 GHz All P-Core Boost


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  • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday January 05 2022, @09:46PM (4 children)

    by Freeman (732) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 05 2022, @09:46PM (#1210296) Journal

    Seriously, a low power laptop may be alright, because you're less likely to cook the internals. A high power laptop, you may as well get yourself a desktop with actual airflow or expect to replace your laptop toaster in the next year or two.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by takyon on Wednesday January 05 2022, @10:13PM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday January 05 2022, @10:13PM (#1210311) Journal

    Sometimes you also see these mobile chips in mini PCs/NUCs.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 06 2022, @12:01AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 06 2022, @12:01AM (#1210357)

    The 15W Ryzen 7 6800U looks pretty attractive. If that 15W is real, that should be able to be dissipated in even something as thin as an XPS (my i7 XPS-13 thermally throttles before it even finishes booting up). But, will have to see if the new MS designed "security" processor built-into the new AMD processors (and to be added to Intel and Qualcomm processors too), is some scary back-door / DRM bullshit, in which case, so long AMD and Intel.

    https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Ryzen-6000-Pluton [phoronix.com]

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday January 06 2022, @12:36AM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday January 06 2022, @12:36AM (#1210372) Journal

      The aggressive cut down to 6 CUs "kills" the 6600U (makes it equivalent to around Cezanne/Vega 8 CUs, I guess). Should make the 8-cores more popular.

      Rembrandt holds the line at 1080p. Going forward, AMD's Phoenix and Strix Point will only improve on that, and further reduce the need for discrete graphics.

      Keep in mind that those U chips are going up to more like 28W in some cases, which they should given sufficient cooling. However some of AMD's slides compared 15W 5800U to 28W 6800U:

      https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/9b6QiFWRrcqZLbMFVp2ZHH-970-80.jpg.webp [futurecdn.net]
      https://www.amd.com/en/press-releases/2022-01-04-amd-unveils-new-ryzen-mobile-processors-uniting-zen-3-core-amd-rdna-2 [amd.com]

      Based on testing by AMD as of 12/14/2021. CPU performance evaluated with a geomean of 9 multi-threaded content creation and CPU tests. GPU performance evaluated with 3DMark® Time Spy. System configuration for Ryzen™ 7 5800U CPU/GPU performance: HP ProBook 635 Aero G8 configured with 2x8GB DDR4-3200 (22-22-22), Windows® 11 22000.282, Samsung 980 Pro 1TB SSD, 15W nominal processor TDP, GPU driver 27.20.21026, BIOS T83. System configuration for Ryzen™ 7 6800U CPU/GPU performance: AMD reference motherboard configured with 4x4GB LPDDR5-6400 (19-15-17), Windows® 11 22000.282, Samsung 980 Pro 1TB SSD, 28W nominal processor TDP, GPU driver 30.0, BIOS TRM0081D. - RMB-13

      Everyone is going to have to decide whether Pluton fears are FUD, because it or something like it will come to everything of consequence. Inb4 SiFive is next.

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    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 06 2022, @12:22PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 06 2022, @12:22PM (#1210499)

      Pluton is bad news. Might be the end of the PC industry as we know it. I don't think it will be in Zen 4, but it will probably be in whatever comes next.

      For those not up on the news, Pluton basically means that Microsoft will have veto power over all software. It's not just secure boot turned up to 11, it's turned up to a billion.