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posted by martyb on Wednesday January 05 2022, @06:15PM   Printer-friendly

AMD Rembrandt Mobile

AMD announced Rembrandt 6000-series mobile processors with Zen 3+ CPU cores and RDNA2 integrated graphics.

The 8-core processors (e.g. 45W Ryzen 7 6800H and 15W Ryzen 7 6800U) all have 12 RDNA2 graphics cores (CUs), up from the previous generation Cezanne's 8 Vega graphics cores. This could mean a doubling of graphics performance. On the other hand, the 6-core processors (e.g. 15W Ryzen 7 6600U) slash this in half to only 6 RDNA2 CUs.

Rembrandt uses DDR5 or LPDDR5 memory and adds support for 40 Gbps USB4 ports, PCIe Gen 4.0 GPUs and storage, HDMI 2.1 and DisplayPort 2, and AV1 hardware decode.

There are also three "Barcelo" models which are refreshes of Cezanne chips (8-core Ryzen 7 5825U, 6-core Ryzen 5 5625U, and 4-core Ryzen 3 5425U).

Rembrandt will be one of the first products to integrate Microsoft's "Pluton" security chip.

Intel Alder Lake Mobile

Intel announced Alder Lake-H (high performance) and Alder Lake-U (low power) mobile processors, with a heterogeneous microarchitecture featuring performance (P) and efficiency (E) cores.

Alder Lake-H has a "base power" of 45 Watts and a "max turbo power" of 115 Watts. The top i9/i7 chips have 14 cores (6P + 8E). In the middle there is an i7-12650H with 10 cores (6P + 4E) and an i5-12600H and i5-12500H with 12 cores (4P + 8E), so that may lead to some confusion. Finally, there is an i5-12450H with 8 cores (4P + 4E).

Alder Lake-U has a "base power" of 15 Watts and a "max turbo power" of 55 Watts. At the top there are a few chips with 10 cores (2P + 8E) and 80 or 96 graphics execution units (EUs). The i3-1215U has 6 cores (2P + 4E) and 64 EUs. Finally there are a Pentium 8505 and Celeron 7305 with 5 cores (1P + 4E) and 48 EUs.

More

* Intel announced cheaper and lower power Alder Lake desktop CPUs, including CPUs made from a smaller die with no efficiency cores, and the world's fastest dual-core CPU (the Pentium G7400).
* AMD announced the Ryzen 7 5800X3D for a Spring 2022 launch. No other Zen 3 CPUs with stacked cache are planned.
* Zen 4 and the AM5 socket will launch sometime during the second half of 2022.
* AMD announced the RX 6500 XT ($200) and various mobile GPUs.
* Nvidia announced its RTX 3050 ($250) and RTX 3090 Ti desktop GPUs

See also: Intel Teases Core i9-12900KS Alder Lake CPU With Up To 5.5 GHz Boost Clock, 5.2 GHz All P-Core Boost


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 06 2022, @12:17PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 06 2022, @12:17PM (#1210498)

    Neither chipmaker has given any attention to the low end for a couple of generations. GPUs have still been getting faster, but they're getting more expensive at the same rate.

    Of course, it won't actually be available anywhere near retail price, at least not without a lot of effort or luck. But maybe it will take some pressure off the used market. With five year old cards selling for $400, things are really out of hand.

  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday January 06 2022, @01:30PM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday January 06 2022, @01:30PM (#1210505) Journal

    There's going to be a 3-way at the low end. From AMD, "$200" RX 6500 XT and a cheaper RX 6400 [amd.com] which is official now but was not given a price or release date. Nvidia has the RTX 3050 which will be a target for miners because of the higher VRAM. Then Intel will have 128 execution unit DG2/Arc GPUs which should have 6 GB of VRAM (Tiger Lake and Alder Lake have up to 96 execution unit graphics).

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday January 06 2022, @02:05PM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday January 06 2022, @02:05PM (#1210507) Journal

    No AV1 decode on the RX 6500 XT despite it being present in every other RDNA 2 GPU/iGPU surrounding it.

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  • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Thursday January 06 2022, @02:48PM (2 children)

    by Freeman (732) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 06 2022, @02:48PM (#1210518) Journal

    Considering the "expensive" $300-$400 GPUs have been consistently selling for easy 2X that, it's not like the MSRP has anything to do with the price of GPUs. Even your lower end GPUs saw price hikes. People that would normally buy a more expensive GPU are settling for lower, which means that the person who would normally get someone's used okay GPU is now getting some piece of junk. Either that or just doing without.

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    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday January 06 2022, @04:20PM (1 child)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday January 06 2022, @04:20PM (#1210546) Journal

      https://wccftech.com/amd-talks-next-gen-am5-ryzen-7000-platform-longevity-why-ryzen-7-5800x3d-is-the-only-v-cache-option-how-radeon-rx-6500-xt-tackles-miners-hint-at-8-gb-option/ [wccftech.com]

      The 6500 XT might fare better than other GPUs for some of the reasons listed there. Like if they really "flood" the market with them, and miners stay away because of the 4 GB VRAM.

      It is a pretty gimped GPU [videocardz.com] though (PCIe 4.0 x4, low VRAM, no AV1 decode). They are daring people not to buy it.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 06 2022, @10:08PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 06 2022, @10:08PM (#1210672)

        The low VRAM is necessary to ward off miners, and to keep costs down, but it seems like a really slow GPU in general. Only being x4 PCIe is painful. Sure, it's enough bandwidth to support that low amount of VRAM... But only if you have a CPU that supports it. There are a lot of people with older CPUs in need of a GPU. AMD seems like they want to use it to sell more CPUs. If it doesn't outperform the ancient RX580, and it seems like it might not, it's not actually improving price/performance any more than any other GPU. It will still be adequate for 1080p gaming, but with very little future proofing.