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Cyber Ninjas shutting down after judge fines Arizona audit company $50K a day
Cyber Ninjas, a firm hired by the Arizona state Senate to conduct a review of Maricopa County’s election results, on Thursday announced that it is shutting down after a county government report slammed the firm and a judge ordered it to pay $50,000 a day in fines.
Sam Levine, a reporter for The Guardian, first reported the news of Cyber Ninjas closing down on Thursday, tweeting that CEO “Doug Logan and the rest of the employees have been let go and Cyber Ninjas is being shut down.”
[....] Cyber Ninjas, which says it recounted 2.1 million ballots, confirmed Biden beat Trump in the state but claimed in its September draft report that thousands of ballots had issues, including duplicate ballots, voters who cast ballots multiple times and unregistered voters participating in the election.
Maricopa County released a report this month, arguing Cyber Ninjas made 22 misleading claims, 41 inaccurate claims and 13 claims that were false.
Cyber Ninjas, the firm hired to conduct a partisan review of election results in Maricopa County, Ariz., has been ordered to pay sanctions of $50,000 a day until it turns over records from the review sought by the Arizona Republic newspaper.
A superior court judge in Maricopa County found the Florida-based company in contempt of court Thursday and ordered the sanctions, according to the Republic.
Maricopa Superior Court Judge John Hannah had previously ordered the company to turn over emails, text messages and other documents to the publication.
“It is lucidly clear on this record that Cyber Ninjas has disregarded that order,” Hannah said.
Facing Fines, Arizona GOP Election ‘Audit' Company Cyber Ninjas Says It's Shutting Down
So let me see if I understand this:
- based on The Big Lie, from the most prolific of all liars, who began this lie back in May 2020 long before election day, this group is hired to conduct an audit.
- during this farsical nonsense, they violate the integrity of the voting equipment, forcing this Arizona county to spend $6 million on new equipment (sorry I'm not digging up links for this earlier incident)
- They make up a bunch of false claims
- The county debunks those claims
- Real reporters investigating request documents which a court orders these cyber nitwits to produce
- They ignore the court order
- They finally in the end come up with . . . . . . drumroll . . . . nothing.
Republicans declared 2020 the most secure election in history. Many republican judges and many of those appointed by Trump found nothing in all of the various lawsuits about the election. (This is all old news now)
Side note: other of my journal entries go into detail about the billions of dollars of damage caused by various idiots defaming Dominion and Smartmatic with lies. Lies that could easily have been fact checked. Yet these lies were carried on an (allegedly) "news" network to fan the flames that resulted in the Jan 6 insurrection -- which is having its own consequences.
Debunking the Cyber Nitwits lies:
Maricopa officials punch back against Arizona's partisan election audit
Election officials rebut claims in Republican-led Arizona review of Trump's 2020 loss
Maricopa County refutes claims made by Cyber Ninjas
From YouTube:
Maricopa County blasts Senate GOP's election review in point-by-point takedown
Maricopa County claims Cyber Ninjas made nearly 80 false claims in election audit
Misleading, inaccurate & false: Maricopa County says Cyber Ninjas election audit report was wrong
Here's hoping they go after the individuals behind Cyber Nitwits to send a message you don't just get to ignore court orders to produce documents that might reveal the fraudulent nature of your alleged "audit".
Just for fun . . .
Abhor-RentUPDATE: the following video is better on YouTube than Twitter . . .
Fox News Talking about BLM Protests but Make the Footage January 6th | The Daily Show
Twitter link...
FOX News commentary about BLM protests, overlaid on video of the Jan 6 insurrection.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday January 07 2022, @08:51PM (28 children)
Turtles all the way down...
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 07 2022, @10:18PM (11 children)
I'm disappointed. I really thought you would use this opportunity to explain why this is all the fault of the Democrats. You are losing your edge, old man!
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday January 08 2022, @12:05AM (10 children)
"Fault"? For what? This is a success story
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 08 2022, @02:16AM (9 children)
Apparently you don't understand the depth and permanency of TDS in these people. It's sad, and one day someone will have to pay for their care.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday January 08 2022, @06:38PM (5 children)
Sure I do. I see this "TDS" thing as a very effective fishnet trawling for money, worked for Clinton/Bush/Obama too. The "syndrome" is merely a tool, an exploit
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 08 2022, @08:54PM (4 children)
I see you're no longer even trying to hide behind the "both sides" nonsense, instead openly pushing right wing talking points. With comments like this and your previous journal telling people not to vote for Democrats (note, you're not actively telling people not to vote for Republicans), it's plainly obvious what your position really is.
What you would so readily dismiss as "TDS" is actually grave concern about continued efforts to undermine the integrity of elections. Right wingers are busy placing loyal election deniers in positions where they oversee elections, changing laws at the state level to suppress voting and make it easier for state legislatures to disregard vote counts, and parroting lies that continue to undermine confidence in the democratic process. You've written many comments about Joe Manchin, who might be a fool, or might be selling out the country to advance his political career. But you ignore that the other political party is actively working to end American democracy and establish permanent one party rule.
Anyone who is using "TDS" as a retort has nothing useful to contribute to the discussion.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 08 2022, @09:06PM (2 children)
:-) Very amusing.. You can shitcan your "both sides" shtick... There is one Party
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 08 2022, @09:20PM
Did you forget to log back in, fusty?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 09 2022, @04:18AM
Troll
Heh, just more democrat idolatry...
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by fustakrakich on Sunday January 09 2022, @07:02PM
:-) Goes without saying.. or what? you need to be told not to eat the Drano just because it's easier to open than a box of Cheerios? You need a sticker to tell you not to stick your fingers into the electrical socket? You really expect to win votes with this incessant whining of yours?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 08 2022, @06:40PM (1 child)
I understand their anger. What I don't understand is why they think the Republican Party will help. But I suppose that is the nature of TDS. The working class would be a revolutionary class if not for the phenomenon of TDS: the cult of the strongman.
I think we should move towards a libertarian heathcare system to avoid paying for their end-of-life care.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 08 2022, @09:20PM
(Score: 5, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 08 2022, @09:01PM
When you use "TDS" as a retort, you're effectively saying that you're unable to actually refute a criticism of Trump, so you're instead turning to the ad hominem logical fallacy. It's basically a way of saying that you have nothing useful to contribute to the discussion without actually saying it directly.
Try unplugging from the propaganda. Maybe stop reading Gateway Pundit and stop watching Newsmax and OAN. With time, you might even find that you're capable of original thought instead of repeating what your masters tell you to think.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 07 2022, @10:42PM
It is called "show your work" and should be demanded from all government agencies or contractors.
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Saturday January 08 2022, @09:17PM (1 child)
Cyber Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles all the way down, then? I guess those sewers really run pretty deep.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday January 08 2022, @09:20PM
And one rat to rule them all...
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday January 10 2022, @04:22PM (6 children)
No Stealthy Escape For Cyber Ninjas, Says Judge [youtube.com]
So shuttering Cyber Ninjas won't protect them from flipping the bird to court orders.
If a minstrel has musical instruments attached to his bicycle, can it be called a minstrel cycle?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday January 10 2022, @07:48PM (5 children)
:-) I am intrigued by your links!
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La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday January 10 2022, @08:40PM
Sorry, just copy/pasted.
If a minstrel has musical instruments attached to his bicycle, can it be called a minstrel cycle?
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday January 10 2022, @08:41PM (3 children)
I copy/pasted too much. Including useless junk. Sorry.
If a minstrel has musical instruments attached to his bicycle, can it be called a minstrel cycle?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday January 10 2022, @08:59PM (2 children)
Didn't really matter, they're just a bookend to FOX
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday January 10 2022, @09:19PM (1 child)
Yes, the MSNBC are. But what was of interest was the YouTube video, and the facts contained in the description of it. Who reports the facts doesn't matter as long as what is reported is facts. Opinions and facts are two different things.
If a minstrel has musical instruments attached to his bicycle, can it be called a minstrel cycle?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday January 10 2022, @09:24PM
If the judge were serious, those people would be in jail for contempt, the fines are bullshit
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday January 10 2022, @07:00PM (5 children)
In a different state . . .
Wisconsin judge lets GOP-led election review continue [politico.com]
I think this farce should be allowed to continue and fully play itself out. Let them follow this to it's ultimate conclusion that . . . OMG . . . there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud.
Then let there be consequences for the big lie that fueled the insurrection a year ago.
The more carefully the 2020 election is scrutinized, the better. IMO.
If a minstrel has musical instruments attached to his bicycle, can it be called a minstrel cycle?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday January 10 2022, @07:59PM (4 children)
Indeed it already is, but it can't be allowed to "play itself out", that would mean a conclusion, the game ends, then what? No, the idea is to keep it running as long as possible, keep the tabloids interested and distracted away from real chronic domestic issues
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday January 10 2022, @08:39PM (3 children)
That
tragedystrategy might result in others asking questions. Courts ordering documents and information to be produced. And repeat of this current $50 K per day type of fine for lack of compliance.If they are GENUINELY SERIOUS about investigating the election, then please do so. The more scrutiny the better. Republican officials already declared this the most secure election ever. There has been a ton of scrutiny at every level.
But if your game is a phony "audit" looking to create doubt, or worse to tamper with the results, then you deserve what you get.
If a minstrel has musical instruments attached to his bicycle, can it be called a minstrel cycle?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday January 10 2022, @08:56PM (2 children)
I will be interested if a penny of that 50K is ever paid out, they're just breaking rocks...
They aren't... nobody is.. the Party still receives 98% of the vote, no investigation is warranted
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday January 10 2022, @09:18PM (1 child)
The court said that this penalty continues per day even if the company is dissolved. I'm sure the court can go after the individuals assets.
Some (most) courts will take quite seriously when you flip the bird at the court. Courts can even jail people for contempt.
If a minstrel has musical instruments attached to his bicycle, can it be called a minstrel cycle?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday January 10 2022, @09:28PM
So why aren't they here? It's bogus tabloid fodder, either they resolve it, or they don't
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 08 2022, @12:09AM (7 children)
How do you propose they audit the equipment without violating it's integrity? Do you have any idea how this stuff works?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 08 2022, @12:18AM (2 children)
Probably by making modifications and not just reading off the data. Sounds like Cyber Ninjas were trying to plant some back doors.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 08 2022, @02:19AM (1 child)
This is exactly where you people go off the rails. Your brains overly connect and confuse fantasy and imagination with facts and reality.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 08 2022, @08:10PM
There are no facts to work with other than cyberdummies getting punished. Only conservatives are allowed to speculate wildly and deny video evidence of things like, i dunno, a capitol invasion by insurrectionists? Hmm, curious!
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 08 2022, @05:55AM
There are a number of ways to audit equipment without violating its integrity. Two of the most important rules are 1) maintain a full chain of custody; and 2) never allow write access to originals. By their own admission, Cyber Ninjas violated both of those. On its own, that is enough to warrant replacing the equipment both from an OpSec perspective and a legal requirement perspective. But the various reports go into further detail as to why the situation is even worse and the trust is broken. Fact of the matter is that even if they weren't required to replace the equipment by state and federal law, they would end up doing it anyway because it is cheaper than getting the old machines to the point where they could use them again.
The only good that can come of this is that a lot of used machines will probably show up on the secondary market.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 08 2022, @09:14PM
For one, an observer should be present at all times to ensure that the integrity of the machines is not compromised during the audit. The audit didn't track who had access to the machines, nor were people watching to prevent tampering with the machines. From https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/arizona-audit-voting-equipment/2021/05/20/a8370368-b9a4-11eb-a5fe-bb49dc89a248_story.html [washingtonpost.com]:
The fact that Maricopa County spent three million dollars on new voting machines means they're not confident that the machines weren't compromised.
When you don't have any physical security, there's no chain of custody, no observers to ensure that machines (and ballots) aren't tampered with, how can you continue to trust the machines? A real audit would follow all of those procedures to prevent machines from being tampered with while they're being audited.
When Maricopa County purchased new machines, they audited those machines. From https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/maricopa-county-tests-new-voting-machines-following-election-audit [fox10phoenix.com]:
One of the key differences is that observers were present who can verify that the machines weren't tampered with and that the tests were done correctly. You can and should audit the machines, but proper procedures need to be followed instead of how the Cyber Ninjas clown show conducted their audit.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 08 2022, @09:24PM (1 child)
/sarcasm, but it wouldn't surprise me to see some crazies embracing it.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday January 10 2022, @04:17PM
Farce as in scam, con, shady.
May the Farce be with you.
If a minstrel has musical instruments attached to his bicycle, can it be called a minstrel cycle?