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posted by janrinok on Sunday January 09 2022, @11:46PM   Printer-friendly
from the cool! dept.

NASA's James Webb Space Telescope Successfully Unfolds its Massive Mirror

NASA's James Webb Space Telescope successfully unfolds its massive mirror:

The team behind the recently launched James Webb Space Telescope successfully finished unfolding the instrument's distinctive golden mirror on Saturday, meaning the telescope is now fully deployed and is one step closer to sending back data about the universe's first galaxies.

"The successful completion of all of the Webb Space Telescope's deployments is historic," Webb's program director at NASA Headquarters, Gregory L. Robinson, said in a release. "This is the first time a NASA-led mission has ever attempted to complete a complex sequence to unfold an observatory in space – a remarkable feat for our team, NASA, and the world."

NASA and its partners, the European Space Agency and the Canadian Space Agency, began remotely unfolding the two wings of Webb's primary mirror on Friday and completed the task at about 10:15 a.m. PT Saturday, when the second wing latched into place.

Over the next six months, Webb is set to travel 1 million miles from Earth and begin sending back images of the universe that promise to serve up a new, unfiltered story of the cosmos. Not only will Webb teach us about hidden regions of space, it also has the power to prove whether we've correctly documented the events that happened right after the Big Bang.

Remarkably, NASA Has Completed Deployment of the Webb Space Telescope

Remarkably, NASA has completed deployment of the Webb space telescope:

But now that ultra complex heat shield is working. The temperature on the Sun-facing side of the telescope is 55 degrees Celsius [(131 °F)], or a very, very, very hot day in the Sahara desert . And already, the science instruments on the back side of the sunshield have cooled to -199 degrees Celsius[(-326.2 °F)], a temperature at which nitrogen is a liquid. They will yet cool further.

Work remains, of course. Webb still must traverse about 370,000 km to reach an orbit around a stable Lagrange point, L2. Scientists and engineers must check out and align the 18 primary mirror segments. Scientific instruments must be calibrated. But all of this work is somewhat more routine when it comes to science spacecraft. There are risks, to be sure, but these are mostly known risks.

We can therefore be reasonably confident now that Webb will, in fact, begin to make science observations this summer. We should, truly, be in awe.


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 10 2022, @02:32AM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 10 2022, @02:32AM (#1211385)

    Given the government funding process, getting a big project started at some low price is about the only way it can be started. Cost overruns are standard procedure.

    We (a very small company) teamed once with two somewhat larger companies to bid on a research tool for DOT (many years ago). We bid what it was going to cost us to do (we'd done similar things before). The winning bid was half the price of ours--from an outfit with no domain expertise...but plenty of gov't bidding expertise. After they won the bid and got started, they quickly went over budget. And in the end it cost the DOT just about what our team had bid. The product didn't work well enough to be of any use--remember, the winner had no domain experience.

    If we'd been more experienced (and were able to grit our teeth and lie), we would have also bid at half the price, with the expectation that we would have to go back for more.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 10 2022, @02:55AM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 10 2022, @02:55AM (#1211390)

    As I said, carelessness with OPM (other peoples money). In many fields of endeavour, contractors have to post a bond guaranteeing completion on time and on budget. Cost overruns are raten by the bond company. And the contractor often goes broke or gets sold of by the bond company to recover their losses.

    Takes too long? The client calls in another contractor to finish the job and collects the costs from the bond company, which then goes after the original contractor.

    So contractors have a very strong incentive to not underbid if they are required to submit a bond from an insurance/bonding company because they won't get a kick at the can for extra money aside from extra costs for unforeseen expenses.

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 10 2022, @03:49AM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 10 2022, @03:49AM (#1211402)

      You can't do a fixed-price contract for an R&D project that has never been done before. There are the known unknowns and the unknown unknowns. There are different kinds of contracts for a reason, because you can't shoehorn them into the same thing.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday January 10 2022, @04:51AM (5 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 10 2022, @04:51AM (#1211417) Journal

        You can't do a fixed-price contract for an R&D project that has never been done before.

        Why not? There's fixed-price contracts for riskier human endeavors like ocean salvage recovery or putting out oil fires.

        The key flaw with this assertion is that just because particular details haven't been done before, we still have that that sort of R&D has been done before.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 10 2022, @05:05AM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 10 2022, @05:05AM (#1211426)

          > There's fixed-price contracts for riskier human endeavors like ocean salvage recovery or putting out oil fires.

          Your examples are relatively short term projects -- either they are successful or they fail, probably in weeks, or months. The bids will be high (relative to the costs incurred) and the bidders make money on average, with some % success rate. For owners that like to live dangerously and gamble, this can make a business.

          R&D projects like the DOT project I mentioned above was a two+ year effort to demonstrate some new technology. The deliverable was a one-off, very little chance of re-using anything and selling to another customer. We (the high bidders, who lost the job) should have gritted our teeth, bid low, (we were told that we had by far the best technical proposal), then created some phony "unknown-unknowns" to go back for the rest of the money that was necessary to do the full job. It's far from ideal, but that seems to be how the R&D game is played in USA.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday January 10 2022, @06:33AM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 10 2022, @06:33AM (#1211437) Journal

            Your examples are relatively short term projects -- either they are successful or they fail, probably in weeks, or months.

            The JWST should have been a lot more short term than it was.I wager the lack of fixed-price contracts helped make that considerable delay happen.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 10 2022, @10:37AM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 10 2022, @10:37AM (#1211468)
            There are construction projects that take a decade that require bid bonds from the contractors. But let's take something people here are more familiar with - software and hardware development. Projects get axed all the time because they're taking too long or the cost is exploding.

            Look at Thanatos - 15 years of bullshit and lies for something that was physically impossible. A billion bucks gone. When something is too good to be true, and you see the coats and timeline explode, you kill it before it kills you.

            Anyone working in a startup in the 90s will remember how many startups turned into money pits that never produced anything. There's a lost opportunity cost in continuing to pursue anything that has gotten out of hand.

            The space shuttle was pork and fantasy. For the same money as the shuttle and SLS, you could have had a permanent moonbase 15 years ago. That's the opportunity cost of the shuttle, sls,,and webb. How much radio astronomy could gave been done with a radio telescope on the back side of the moon,,with the entire moon shielding it from radio noise from earth?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 10 2022, @04:04PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 10 2022, @04:04PM (#1211514)

              Let's also talk about the B2 bomber and all the nukes we pay for. Add some zeros. Now, round to 3 decimal places.... huh all the budget problems went away?!

              • (Score: 2, Funny) by khallow on Monday January 10 2022, @06:43PM

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 10 2022, @06:43PM (#1211574) Journal

                Let's also talk about the B2 bomber and all the nukes we pay for. Add some zeros. Now, round to 3 decimal places.... huh all the budget problems went away?!

                "Add some zeros". That's a creative accounting move. Great way to scam. It's not a serious way to budget.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 10 2022, @04:00PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 10 2022, @04:00PM (#1211512)

      Contractors have to post a bond guaranteeing completion on time and on budget. Cost overruns are raten by the bond company. And the contractor often goes broke or gets sold of by the bond company to recover their losses. Takes too long? The client calls in another contractor to finish the job and collects the costs from the bond company, which then goes after the original contractor.

      Sounds like you like dealing with lawyers, or are a lawyer or an MBA looking for some sweet, sweet middle to manage.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 10 2022, @04:41PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 10 2022, @04:41PM (#1211527)

        Real business concerns and what is required to function in a well organized and regulated society (assuming all parties involved are being regulated in manners that favor honesty...)

        If you want a counterexample to this, go read up on the MS Satoshi mess, which involved a bunch of people, also with no domain experience, going and buying a cruise vessel with expired certificates, labelled as a commercial seagoing vessel, then trying to drive it across the ocean to park in Panamanian territorial waters, all without verifying the legality of any step of what they were doing, or the safety of the resulting project, and then having to quit in the 11th hour because the majority of their prospective client base was smart enough to realize it was a bad idea and they didn't know what they were doing.