Coffee aficionados will buy green beans of a particular kind (don't even think of looking up Kopi Luwak), roast them themselves, grind only the amount needed to make the next cup and use an espresso machine or an Aeropress.
I have not gone that far, but I know people who have. They make excellent coffee. Adding sweetener or milk would be blasphemy.
One can go completely over the top with tea as well. My palette is not so refined as to enjoy what they do, I tend to like my tea strong enough for a mouse to walk across the top, although on the other hand, in summer, I will enjoy the occasional green tea, chrysanthemum tea, or Boldo-do-Chile.
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 18 2022, @05:37AM
(2 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Tuesday January 18 2022, @05:37AM (#1213536)
I have an Aeropress and the thing that sold me on it was that it makes a single cup of coffee pretty simply and not much hassle (cleans easily) directly into the drinking vessel. I've seen some web sites that are absolutely ridiculous in their statements. Some "competition" they have for making the best cup with it, where they argue about whether the water should be 98.3 or 98.5 degrees and stuff like that. But the concept and the implementation of that thing are pretty well done.
I've been planning on doing the home roasting myself, but as a hobby project. I want to do one of those Arduino-controlled roasters using a hot air popcorn popper. I've gone as far as picking up a popcorn popper, but that's sort of as far as I've gotten. I really should buy some green coffee so that I have a forcing function to get on with the project. I really do love coffee as well as software/hardware projects, so I figured this would be a lot of fun. I take my coffee either black or with some cream. Never could stand any sweetener in it, nor do I like cold coffee, so if I am given some cold brew, I'd probably sneak off and pop it in the microwave. Interestingly, caffeine doesn't seem to affect me as much as others. I can drink a cup or two of coffee before bedtime and have no problem sleeping. I know some people who won't drink coffee after 4pm because it will keep them up half the night.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 18 2022, @02:19PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Tuesday January 18 2022, @02:19PM (#1213576)
simply and not much hassle (cleans easily)
Brings to mind some of the "labor saving" thingamabobs found in the kitchen. Some of them are pretty cool, until you try to clean them to put them away. Little whirlygig thing chops onions, peppers, whatever, very nicely, but trying to get that last particle of food from the bottom is a hopeless task. Underwriter's lab should rate products on "cleans easily".
I am not a doctor, but have had my ADD diagnosed by several over the years.
I can ingest caffeine in doses that practically make my body shake and still have no trouble falling asleep. It used to annoy my father that as my mother and I were mid-Scrabble at 11 PM, she would put on a pot of coffee (not much tea in their home, and neither of us care much for "soft drinks"), and still go right to sleep after the game.
For us, caffeine sharpens focus, but has no apparent side effects.
Starbucks is: expensive. complicated coffee-related or coffee-adjacent well marketed.
It can be a good place to sit (some have comfy chairs) and "free" wifi used to be a good thing (with modern mobile data plans, becoming irrelevant)
Coffee from a proper machine, a good barista, and made with proper roasted beans and good milk (or milk substitute) is completely different - but Australian Starbucks can make a drinkable version of an Australian latte.
-- "I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
Coffee aficionados will buy green beans of a particular kind (don't even think of looking up Kopi Luwak), roast them themselves, grind only the amount needed to make the next cup and use an espresso machine or an Aeropress.
Hardly. I sponsor a Chachapoyan village high in the Peruvian cloud forest to grow bespoke coffee beans for me, which are dried in a sacred well of souls and blessed by the village shaman before being smuggled into the US in the rectum of endangered quetzal birds. After they excrete it, a process which strips all but the most complex tasting tannins, I put it through a purification process that yields the best goddamn cup of coffee you've ever had.
Phoenixes, a species native to Asia Minor, are only used for coffee beans sourced there. You would know that if you were a real coffee afficionado. :-)
(Score: 2, Insightful) by pTamok on Monday January 17 2022, @08:56PM (11 children)
Starbucks is definitively not 'fancy coffee'.
Coffee aficionados will buy green beans of a particular kind (don't even think of looking up Kopi Luwak), roast them themselves, grind only the amount needed to make the next cup and use an espresso machine or an Aeropress.
I have not gone that far, but I know people who have. They make excellent coffee. Adding sweetener or milk would be blasphemy.
One can go completely over the top with tea as well. My palette is not so refined as to enjoy what they do, I tend to like my tea strong enough for a mouse to walk across the top, although on the other hand, in summer, I will enjoy the occasional green tea, chrysanthemum tea, or Boldo-do-Chile.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 18 2022, @05:37AM (2 children)
I have an Aeropress and the thing that sold me on it was that it makes a single cup of coffee pretty simply and not much hassle (cleans easily) directly into the drinking vessel. I've seen some web sites that are absolutely ridiculous in their statements. Some "competition" they have for making the best cup with it, where they argue about whether the water should be 98.3 or 98.5 degrees and stuff like that. But the concept and the implementation of that thing are pretty well done.
I've been planning on doing the home roasting myself, but as a hobby project. I want to do one of those Arduino-controlled roasters using a hot air popcorn popper. I've gone as far as picking up a popcorn popper, but that's sort of as far as I've gotten. I really should buy some green coffee so that I have a forcing function to get on with the project. I really do love coffee as well as software/hardware projects, so I figured this would be a lot of fun. I take my coffee either black or with some cream. Never could stand any sweetener in it, nor do I like cold coffee, so if I am given some cold brew, I'd probably sneak off and pop it in the microwave. Interestingly, caffeine doesn't seem to affect me as much as others. I can drink a cup or two of coffee before bedtime and have no problem sleeping. I know some people who won't drink coffee after 4pm because it will keep them up half the night.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 18 2022, @02:19PM
Brings to mind some of the "labor saving" thingamabobs found in the kitchen. Some of them are pretty cool, until you try to clean them to put them away. Little whirlygig thing chops onions, peppers, whatever, very nicely, but trying to get that last particle of food from the bottom is a hopeless task. Underwriter's lab should rate products on "cleans easily".
(Score: 2) by dltaylor on Tuesday January 18 2022, @08:08PM
I am not a doctor, but have had my ADD diagnosed by several over the years.
I can ingest caffeine in doses that practically make my body shake and still have no trouble falling asleep. It used to annoy my father that as my mother and I were mid-Scrabble at 11 PM, she would put on a pot of coffee (not much tea in their home, and neither of us care much for "soft drinks"), and still go right to sleep after the game.
For us, caffeine sharpens focus, but has no apparent side effects.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday January 19 2022, @04:28PM (2 children)
I am the one to blame for this poll. Since I don't actually drink Starbucks, I didn't know. I just observe the way others seem to regard it.
Universal health care is so complex that only 32 of 33 developed nations have found a way to make it work.
(Score: 2) by MostCynical on Thursday January 27 2022, @01:52AM (1 child)
Starbucks is:
expensive.
complicated
coffee-related or coffee-adjacent
well marketed.
It can be a good place to sit (some have comfy chairs) and "free" wifi used to be a good thing (with modern mobile data plans, becoming irrelevant)
Coffee from a proper machine, a good barista, and made with proper roasted beans and good milk (or milk substitute) is completely different - but Australian Starbucks can make a drinkable version of an Australian latte.
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 3, Touché) by DannyB on Thursday January 27 2022, @02:34PM
So, . . . uh, like, it's the perfect place for Apple users.
Universal health care is so complex that only 32 of 33 developed nations have found a way to make it work.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Sunday February 06 2022, @10:08PM (4 children)
Hardly. I sponsor a Chachapoyan village high in the Peruvian cloud forest to grow bespoke coffee beans for me, which are dried in a sacred well of souls and blessed by the village shaman before being smuggled into the US in the rectum of endangered quetzal birds. After they excrete it, a process which strips all but the most complex tasting tannins, I put it through a purification process that yields the best goddamn cup of coffee you've ever had.
That's what real coffee afficionados do. :-)
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by kazzie on Friday February 11 2022, @01:30PM (3 children)
Quetzal? I thought you might use a few hundred phoenixes...
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday February 11 2022, @03:11PM (2 children)
Phoenixes, a species native to Asia Minor, are only used for coffee beans sourced there. You would know that if you were a real coffee afficionado. :-)
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by kazzie on Sunday February 13 2022, @05:18PM (1 child)
I am most certainly NOT a coffee afficionado: I'm a committed tea-drinker!
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Sunday February 13 2022, @11:49PM
Heathen.
Washington DC delenda est.