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posted by janrinok on Sunday January 16 2022, @10:21AM   Printer-friendly
from the By-the-inch,-it's-a-cinch-but-a-mile-takes-a-while dept.

We've previously discussed ( https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/12/11/1847236 ) how it becomes impossible to reverse the polarization of a community once their differences become too great, and how that plays out both here at SN and in the wider world. Science Blog has a piece ( https://scienceblog.com/527745/computer-model-seeks-to-explain-the-spread-of-misinformation-and-suggest-counter-measures/ ) about a PLOS paper titled "Cognitive cascades: How to model (and potentially counter) the spread of fake news" ( https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0261811 ) which uses an interesting computer model to explore how this actually happens.

The model demonstrated that if the new information is too much at odds with a person's existing belief, it will be ignored. Furthermore, if that belief is connected with the person's identity, their current belief will be strengthened as a defense against cognitive dissonance. Interestingly, though, a succession of new information that gradually nudge the person to adjust their beliefs can, over time, cause the person to adopt a belief that is very different from the one they started with. This sounds like how psy-ops manipulate targets to accept extreme views.

What was the gradual change of ideas that have led national political parties to be ever more different from one another, and who fed them those messages?


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  • (Score: -1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 16 2022, @02:26PM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 16 2022, @02:26PM (#1213130)

    Didn't see much violence from the right in 2020. We saw cities held hostage by the left though. Fiery but mostly peaceful violence. Or some such silly shit. But, you'll tell us not to believe our lying eyes, and accept the party line. You are a perfect example of misinformation applied successfully. Step back and think awhile, and you'll begin to understand that the "insurrection" of Jan 6th is little more than projection from your side.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 16 2022, @02:32PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 16 2022, @02:32PM (#1213133)

    Always the stupid whataboutism from the stupid insurrectionists too entitled to take even a modicum of responsibility.

    The fact the people supported the BLM protesters while condemning the rioters seems too complicated for your limited mental faculties. Shit son, you can't even tell an insurrection when it is recorded on video for you! Fascist traitors gotta pretend they're chosen opponents are the real enemy, thanks for illustrating the point immediately.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday January 16 2022, @06:07PM (8 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 16 2022, @06:07PM (#1213177) Journal
      I guess you missed this bit of whataboutism?

      So you're a Joe Rogan fan too stupid to realize how much of an idiot he is. The DNC is shite, but Republicans are literally approving of anti-democratic violence.

      That wouldn't happen to be your contribution to this discussion?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 16 2022, @07:41PM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 16 2022, @07:41PM (#1213216)

        Aren't you one of the ones saying the insurrection didn't happen? Truly a master of reality you are /s

        • (Score: 2, Troll) by khallow on Sunday January 16 2022, @07:50PM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 16 2022, @07:50PM (#1213221) Journal

          Aren't you one of the ones saying the insurrection didn't happen?

          Nope. I was instead saying that the riot in question was not an insurrection. The evidence supports me, such as a lack of action indicating lack of intent to commit insurrection (entered Capitol and milled around for a while), poorly armed for an insurrection when it would be easy to show up heavily armed (firearms instead of flagpoles and fire extinguishers, for example), and an absence of any planning of said insurrection.

        • (Score: 2, Touché) by khallow on Sunday January 16 2022, @07:52PM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 16 2022, @07:52PM (#1213223) Journal
          I also couldn't help but notice your deflection from the subject to my alleged stance on "the insurrection". That's a classic whataboutism tactic. I guess you're just broken, eh?
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 16 2022, @10:32PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 16 2022, @10:32PM (#1213266)

          And thirdly, their firearms were taken to the riot in a truck, which means that it wasn't an attempted insurrection and attack against the Constitution.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday January 17 2022, @07:24AM (1 child)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 17 2022, @07:24AM (#1213352) Journal

            And thirdly, their firearms were taken to the riot in a truck

            But not carried or used in said riot. See a pattern there?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 17 2022, @04:26PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 17 2022, @04:26PM (#1213406)

              They're too stupid to understand. Just too stupid. They've got their talking points from CNN, and they won't allow anything to distract them from chanting the mantra.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 17 2022, @06:32AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 17 2022, @06:32AM (#1213344)

        That wouldn't happen to be your contribution to this discussion?

        Do try to keep up, khallow! It is always a good thing to have idiots pointed out as such. Consider, Rand Paul! But I usually point out that Rogan, Jordan Peterson, and Newt Gingrich are what someone once pointed as "a stupid person's idea of a smart person". Second order Dunning-Kroger, I guess. But of a kind, as Trump is a stupid person's idea of a billionaire. "If he's so rich, why isn't he smart?" See where all this is going? Khallow?

        • (Score: 2, Touché) by khallow on Monday January 17 2022, @07:31AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 17 2022, @07:31AM (#1213353) Journal

          It is always a good thing to have idiots pointed out as such.

          I'm glad my efforts are appreciated.

          See where all this is going? Khallow?

          The real question: do you?