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posted by n1 on Thursday November 06 2014, @03:03AM   Printer-friendly
from the hunt-the-consumer dept.

Nest plans to offer its smart thermostat to Irish consumers for free when they sign up for a two-year contract with Electric Ireland. Nest chief executive Tony Fadell said at the Web Summit in Dublin that the deal could put his company’s thermostats in up to 1.6 million homes, according to CNET, and claimed that similar deals would be announced for other countries in the future.

[...] Google is infamous for its ability to offer consumers products which are paid for not by their users but by the ads those users see. Its products are among the best in their categories, and when it’s free to use them, there’s little reason for consumers to pay for another service. Now Google is just applying that same logic to the real world — and it will probably work out for it just as well.

Even I’ve grown sick of hearing this sentiment, but it’s more relevant now than ever: If you aren’t the one paying for a service, you are the product.

 
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  • (Score: 2) by strattitarius on Thursday November 06 2014, @10:14PM

    by strattitarius (3191) on Thursday November 06 2014, @10:14PM (#113673) Journal
    To 1b, that wouldn't be noticeable and if I could trust it would never be more than a degree, I could probably live with it. Still, I don't think I would ever trust anyone with my heater, especially now that I learned you can freeze pipes at 55F.

    For the VCR clock, I bet it was actually harder to program than most programmable thermostats. And I was being flip about changing the thermostat... seems like someone at work is always complaining and changing the thermostat. I am really surprised they haven't put the plastic lock box on it. Maybe work needs this ultra smart thermostat!
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  • (Score: 2) by Aiwendil on Friday November 07 2014, @12:39AM

    by Aiwendil (531) on Friday November 07 2014, @12:39AM (#113700) Journal

    I agree that a "max allowed deviation" would be a good feature, maybe some of them have it.
    And well, I wouldn't trust too many with a heater either, but in my case it is because it simply tells too much about how I live.

    Most VCR-clock was - and still is - simply flipping the cover for the fron control panel down, hitting the buttom that said "clock" (or had a little clock-symbol) and then hit the chan up/down and tracking up/down (one was inc/dec, the other was change field, on some "enter/ok" or "play" was the "change field")..

    Your workplace would benefit from a smart thermostat only in case people was prevented from adjusting it, a much better method would be to simply set it to something sane (say 70F) and then have an online-voting-system that is polled each hour (allow the workers to set a "prefered target" to allow automation of voting) if it should be increased a degreed, stay the same, or lowered a degree.. People in groups can not be controlled with altering anything that effects the whole group.

    And I must ask, just how does one manage to freeze the pipes at 55F? (with an improper setup that allows for evaporative cooling I can see how, but with a proper setup?)

    • (Score: 2) by strattitarius on Friday November 07 2014, @05:55PM

      by strattitarius (3191) on Friday November 07 2014, @05:55PM (#113889) Journal
      I really like the idea of a poll to raise or lower the temp. I suppose you could put that on a webpage and send the results to a rigged thermostat with an arduino. Sounds like a fun way to make goofing off look like work.

      Here is what I meant about 55F freezing pipes. I wouldn't have thought it could happen, but then I realized that I think it did actually happen to me once. http://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=4723&cid=113610 [soylentnews.org]
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