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posted by martyb on Monday January 31 2022, @08:29AM   Printer-friendly

[Ed note: I've provided a brief list of alternative sources for streaming free music and podcasts at the end of this story. Please help out your fellow Soylentils by mentioning your favorite Soundcloud alternative in the comments. --martyb]

Joni Mitchell joins Neil Young in ditching Spotify over COVID misinformation:

Joni Mitchell has turned up the volume on demands for music and podcast streamer Spotify to address misinformation on its platform. Joining protests by a group of medical professionals and by rocker Neil Young, the iconic singer-songwriter says she plans to pull her work off Spotify over false claims about COVID-19 vaccines.

"I've decided to remove all my music from Spotify," Mitchell said Friday in a brief post on her website. "Irresponsible people are spreading lies that are costing people their lives. I stand in solidarity with Neil Young and the global scientific and medical communities on this issue."

l...] Young sparked a #DeleteSpotify movement earlier this week when he yanked his catalog off the service and cited a letter by more than 250 doctors, nurses, scientists and educators who criticized Spotify and its most popular podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience, for spreading vaccine misinformation.

In her post, Mitchell, the artist behind songs like Big Yellow TaxiHelp Me and A Case of You, included a link to that same letter. It calls out an episode of Rogan's podcast that featured virologist and vaccine skeptic Dr. Robert Malone, points to a critical post about Malone on fact-checking site PolitiFact, and urges Spotify to establish a policy on misinformation.

Joni Mitchell joins Neil Young in having her music pulled off Spotify:

The famed Canadian singer-songwriter who's been turning out hits we all know — like "The Circle Game" — since the '60s has officially joined Neil Young in calling for her music's removal from the streaming service. Like the "Heart of Gold" writer and singer, Mitchell is fed up with Spotify's willingness to support podcasters like Joe Rogan who perpetuate lies and incomplete truths about COVID-19, among other things.

Rogan's podcast has been kicking around since 2009, but it notably became a Spotify exclusive in Dec. 2020. That's why the recent pushback against Spotify has so squarely centered the controversial actor-turned-influential blowhard.

"I've decided to remove all my music from Spotify," Mitchell wrote on Jan. 28 under the headline "I Stand With Neil Young!" in a brief post on her website. "Irresponsible people are spreading lies that are costing people their lives. I stand in solidarity with Neil Young and the global scientific and medical communities on this issue."

While she doesn't single out Rogan by name, the post does conclude with a link out to "An Open Letter to Spotify." The document, which is signed by "a coalition of scientists, medical professionals, professors, and science communicators" that includes more than 250 people, repeatedly points to The Joe Rogan Experience podcast as a source of COVID misinformation throughout the pandemic.

Joni Mitchell joins Neil Young; pulls music in Spotify protest:

Joni Mitchell said she is seeking to remove all of her music from Spotify in solidarity with Neil Young, who ignited a protest against the streaming service for airing a podcast that featured a figure who has spread misinformation about the coronavirus.

Mitchell, who like Young is a California-based songwriter who had much of her success in the 1970s, is the first prominent musician to join Young's effort.

"Irresponsible people are spreading lies that are costing people their lives," Mitchell said on Friday in a message posted on her website. "I stand in solidarity with Neil Young and the global scientific and medical communities on this issue."

Following Young's action this week, Spotify said it had policies in place to remove misleading content from its platform and has removed more than 20,000 podcast episodes related to COVID-19 since the start of the pandemic.

[...] But the service has said nothing about comedian Joe Rogan, whose podcast The Joe Rogan Experience is the centerpiece of the controversy.

Spotify support buckles under complaints from angry Neil Young fans:

Neil Young was mad. Now his fans are, too, and they're telling Spotify about it.

Earlier this week, Young had asked the music-streaming service to remove his music from its library in response to COVID misinformation aired on Joe Rogan's podcast, which is available only on Spotify. "I want you to let Spotify know immediately TODAY that I want all my music off their platform," Young wrote on his website. "They can have Rogan or Young. Not both."

[...] For Young and his fans, the hit was palpable, and his fans are apparently taking their frustrations out on Spotify. The hashtag #SpotifyDeleted trended on Twitter yesterday, and fans seem to have inundated customer support with so many messages that Spotify has had to take it offline at times.

"We're currently getting a lot of contacts so may be slow to respond," a large red banner has read on the support page. Options to message the company, which have previously included live chat with a customer support agent or a chat bot, are now limited to an email address link.

Spotify stock tanks. Spotify shuts down their customer service lines. Thousands of listeners complain and cancel subscriptions over Spotify's decision to support Joe Rogan and the misinformation he broadcasts, over Neil Young's music. pic.twitter.com/pjvMm7pYVQ

— Mike Sington (@MikeSington) January 28, 2022

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  • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @12:16PM (20 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @12:16PM (#1217192)

    I'd bet that the vast majority of people who are in favor of banning Rogan have never actually listened to Rogan. They're just following the herd, because that's what sheep do (right to the slaughterhouse).

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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @12:29PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @12:29PM (#1217198)

    what about bisons? we wanna know about bisons damnit!

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Acabatag on Monday January 31 2022, @01:51PM

      by Acabatag (2885) on Monday January 31 2022, @01:51PM (#1217220)

      Bison trample on and destroy railroad track. The Transcontinental Railroad was impossible to build until the huge bison herds were limited and controlled.

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday January 31 2022, @03:22PM (1 child)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 31 2022, @03:22PM (#1217265) Journal

      what about bisons? we wanna know about bisons damnit!

      This will help . . . [northforkbison.com]


      The taste of bison is very similar taste to beef. It has a coarser texture and a slightly sweeter flavour. It does not taste gamey. There is no aftertaste like some game animals such as moose.

      There are significant health benefits to bison.

      • It’s very high in protein, much more so than beef
      • has less calories than beef
      • and half the fat of beef
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      Young people won't believe you if you say you used to get Netflix by US Postal Mail.
      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @04:53PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @04:53PM (#1217313)

        A bison burger to me tastes just like a beef one, the only difference being it's much drier due to almost no fat.
        This means you need to be careful when you cook it. It tends to stick to the grill and can come apart when you try to lift it off. Also, it's goddamned dry when you eat it, esp. combined with the burger bun. You absolutely need something like mustard or catsup on top for moisture, and drink something with it.

        I eat very lean beef, so I am used to it.

  • (Score: 5, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @02:32PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @02:32PM (#1217233)

    >> I'd bet that the vast majority of people who are in favor of banning Rogan have never actually listened to Rogan

    The vast majority of people who are in favor of banning child porn have never actually viewed child porn.

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @02:49PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @02:49PM (#1217247)

      That is precisely why mothers and grandmothers have been locked up for sharing pictures and videos of Baby's First Bath. Most people don't know what child porn is.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @07:16PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @07:16PM (#1217372)

        See next comment, from an expert on the subject of child porn...

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday January 31 2022, @03:23PM (1 child)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 31 2022, @03:23PM (#1217266) Journal

      The vast majority of people who are in favor of banning murder have never actually been murdered.

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      Young people won't believe you if you say you used to get Netflix by US Postal Mail.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @07:51PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @07:51PM (#1217383)

        Anyone else notice how DannyB always changes the subject when child porn is brought up?

  • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Monday January 31 2022, @03:43PM (10 children)

    by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Monday January 31 2022, @03:43PM (#1217279) Homepage Journal

    I haven't heard Rogan, and I don't want him banned, but if he's spreading disinformation about a deadly disease and the vaccine that can (but doesn't always) prevent it, I hope somebody sues the son of a bitch for everything he owns.

    I had it in March 2020 and still have lingering effects; my hair is falling out, my blood pressure is up and down all over the chart, and I have various aches and pains from the continued inflammations, almost two years later.

    I hope everybody spreading misinformation about this nasty disease catches it.

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    Carbon, The only element in the known universe to ever gain sentience
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @03:53PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @03:53PM (#1217283)

      You're also old as dirt and your body would be failing just the same regardless.

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday January 31 2022, @04:29PM (1 child)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 31 2022, @04:29PM (#1217299) Homepage Journal

        False. Dirt was almost 100 years old when McGrew was born.

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        Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 01 2022, @12:26AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 01 2022, @12:26AM (#1217462)
          The vast majority who are against drunk driving have never been caught drunk driving.

          The vast majority of people having their homes broken in haven't had their homes broken in.

          And the vast majority who are against airplane crashes haven't been in one.

          Now for the reverse - the vast majority who've eaten dodgy fast food and got food poisoning are also in favour if food inspectionsand against food poisoning, same as those who haven't gotten food poisoning.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by mcgrew on Wednesday February 02 2022, @08:51PM

        by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Wednesday February 02 2022, @08:51PM (#1218064) Homepage Journal

        You're also old as dirt

        I was a beta tester for dirt. We never did get all the bugs out.

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        Carbon, The only element in the known universe to ever gain sentience
    • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @04:57PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @04:57PM (#1217315)

      Fortunately, the Omicron strain that is dominant now is not nearly as bad. Of course, you will always have some unlucky folks. The coronavirus is mutating to become the flu. As a matter of fact, the "real" flu we catch now was a long time ago a much worse strain than it is now. It was very dangerous. Remember the Spanish Flu virus of around 1915? It never disappeared. It just mellowed out.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Joe Desertrat on Tuesday February 01 2022, @01:40AM

        by Joe Desertrat (2454) on Tuesday February 01 2022, @01:40AM (#1217493)

        Fortunately, the Omicron strain that is dominant now is not nearly as bad. Of course, you will always have some unlucky folks. The coronavirus is mutating to become the flu. As a matter of fact, the "real" flu we catch now was a long time ago a much worse strain than it is now. It was very dangerous. Remember the Spanish Flu virus of around 1915? It never disappeared. It just mellowed out.

        The biggest danger of COVID or the flu or similar are that the next strain that evolves could be far more deadly or debilitating than any previous version.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 01 2022, @02:15AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 01 2022, @02:15AM (#1217514)

        I hope you're right.

        But I'm going to laugh so fucking hard when something with Delta's lethality and Omicron's contagiousness comes along next.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 01 2022, @02:38AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 01 2022, @02:38AM (#1217521)

        It's actually not that the flu "mellowed out", the susceptible died off and the rest got immunity.
        https://youtube.com/watch?v=48Klc3DPdtk [youtube.com]

    • (Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Monday January 31 2022, @05:57PM

      by PiMuNu (3823) on Monday January 31 2022, @05:57PM (#1217342)

      Hope you get better soon.

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @07:09PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 31 2022, @07:09PM (#1217368)

      So what I've tested positive twice and have no lingering effects. Does the world have to stop just for you now?