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John R. Gillis writes in the NYT that to those of us who visit beaches only in summer, beaches seem as permanent a part of our natural heritage as the Rocky Mountains but shore dwellers know that beaches are the most transitory of landscapes, and sand beaches the most vulnerable of all. Today, 75 to 90 percent of the world’s natural sand beaches are disappearing, due partly to rising sea levels and increased storm action, but also to massive erosion caused by the human development of shores. The extent of this global crisis is obscured because so-called beach nourishment projects attempt to hold sand in place(PDF) and repair the damage by the time summer people return, creating the illusion of an eternal shore. But the market for mined sand in the US has become a billion-dollar annual business, growing at 10 percent a year since 2008. Interior mining operations use huge machines working in open pits to dig down under the earth’s surface to get sand left behind by ancient glaciers.
One might think that desert sand would be a ready substitute, but its grains are finer and smoother; they don’t adhere to rougher sand grains, and tend to blow away. As a result, the desert state of Saudi Arabia brings sand for sandblasting all the way from Australia. Huge sand mining operations are emerging worldwide, many of them illegal, happening out of sight and out of mind, as far as the developed world is concerned. "We need to stop taking sand for granted and think of it as an endangered natural resource," concludes Gillis. "Beach replenishment — the mining and trucking and dredging of sand to meet tourist expectations — must be evaluated on a case-by-case basis, with environmental considerations taking top priority. Only this will ensure that the story of the earth will still have subsequent chapters told in grains of sand."
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 07 2014, @01:08PM
Has soylent jumped the hugh pickens? I already didn't care about this story yesterday, when it was on slashdot.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Lagg on Friday November 07 2014, @01:48PM
brokenrecord -v
Though I personally get pretty annoyed with Hugh's cross posting bullshit, as far as I know none of the editors actually read slashdot anymore (kind of the point of soylent you know?) and so if they see a submission that looks acceptable they're going to accept it. Please feel free to bother Hugh about it though. He knows exactly what kind of problems he causes.
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(Score: 2) by sudo rm -rf on Friday November 07 2014, @02:55PM
Can you clarify this for me? I don't see a problem in cross posting. I for one have to be extremely bored to even take a glance at the green site, so I didn't notice this story was already over there. I suppose this goes for some other soylentils as well.
(Score: 2) by Lagg on Friday November 07 2014, @05:16PM
There's nothing wrong with it in itself, problem is that Hugh never notes that he is cross posting and as such makes it look like people are merely copying stuff off of slashdot leading to comments like the one I was replying to.
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(Score: 3, Informative) by urza9814 on Friday November 07 2014, @07:50PM
The people posting those comments are the problem, nobody else. Crossposting stuff is kinda the entire point of both this site and Slashdot.
I don't understand how anyone here has time to read both this site and Slashdot anyway...I spend a good 4-6 hours per day reading here and today is the first time in weeks that I haven't been several days behind! And I've still got a half dozen articles left and my shift ends in ten minutes, so I'll have quite a backlog when I get in Monday morning :)
(Score: 2) by martyb on Friday November 07 2014, @03:07PM
Thank-you for posting this; your assessment is spot-on.
I am an editor on this site, but speaking only for myself, I have visited slashdot only a couple times since SN went live, and then only to see if a problem we were encountering also occurred over there (as we are based on a freely-available but old version of the code for their site).
A well-written, grammatically-correct, typo-free story submission gets my attention. When I see a biased submission (for example when I see "M$" or "republicrat" in the submission) I suspect there just might be some slant to the story, so I know I have some work ahead of me based on our Story Style [sylnt.us] and Story Editing [sylnt.us] guidelines.
But, if you see something you think is newsworthy for this site, please submit it. Perfect grammar and spelling is not a requirement; include links to the material and enough information so that we can get a good idea of what is being submitted, and we can take it from there. As I write this, there are only 9 stories in the submission queue, which makes it a challenge to provide a good cross-section of interesting and timely stories for the site.
For story ideas, please peruse our log [sylnt.us] of our #rss-bot channel on IRC [soylentnews.org].
And to keep this somewhat on topic, have you ever heard the expression "Go pound sand"? For the curious, here's a nice description of its origin and meaning [chicagotribune.com].
Wit is intellect, dancing.
(Score: 2) by bob_super on Friday November 07 2014, @05:35PM
> When I see a biased submission (for example when I see "M$" or "republicrat" in the submission)
I would like to point out that the density of what we'll call "_gewg_ stories" is giving this place a certain slant which could turn off some visitors.
They are individually interesting, and you sure won't see me posting the opposite world view, but the tech-to-rant ratio has to remain above a certain level lest the whole place become an anti-Liberal (in the European sense) echo chamber, by driving the rest of the crowd away.
[don't reply that I don't submit much, the stuff I have time to read that's not regularly posted here (Ars, Reg) tends to not be in English]
(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday November 07 2014, @10:02PM
" I would like to point out that the density of what we'll call "_gewg_ stories" is giving this place a certain slant which could turn off some visitors. "
First of all -- People who hang out here have no standing on which to bitch if they are not submitting stories of their own.
Second of all -- A posted story with which you disagree provides a good opportunity for you to attack it. You can be a dick like me and attack it with slurs if being modded down makes you laugh, or you can attack it with facts and reason and well-structured argumentation if you want to win big.
Third of all -- Gewg is a populist concerned about the overreach of authority, and I believe most here share those concerns. Where I don't agree with Gewg is his misguided libtard bullshit like giving amnesty to all illegals and letting them rape our pure White women while jailing all White men.
Soylent News is like settlers building a society, and you can't be a pussy when you're building a society. The villiage elders do a great job of being fair and impartial but you as a citizen of this society have to argue your case and solve your problems yourself, you cannot go running and whining to the elders everytime somebody calls you a poo-poo head or has beliefs different from yours.
If you want a circle-jerk you can go back to Slashdot an get modded up for sharks-with-lasers jokes and making fun of Windows users.
(Score: 2) by bob_super on Friday November 07 2014, @11:47PM
> Soylent News is like settlers building a society
I obviously live in the village, so I care when I see that the main entrance is being crowded by giant billboards with one-sided off-putting commentary. I agree with almost every billboard, but there's a trend that sends a not-so-subliminal message to visitors as to who's welcome. The people moderately in disagreement will turn away, and only the most opinionated will contribute, dragging the discussion straight into the dirt.
I want the constructive people that I don't agree with to come in, so i may have an epic-but-instructive argument with them.
But _I_ don't get to choose who's talking about what, nor do I get to censor what I don't like or complain that someone bruised my feelings online. I'm only pointing out a worrisome perception.
I thank Gewg for his unmatched dedication to the regular submission of interesting articles, but I wish the editors would be a bit more careful with the accompanying statements... If we want to get new people to come in, we need to limit flamebait on the front page. That's what the comments are for, as you might know, dear Ethanol.
/offtopic
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 08 2014, @09:57AM
flamebait is a fuel that feeds the comment fire
without it, many articles would be smoldering graveyards
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 07 2014, @03:52PM
Wait, you want the broken record to be more verbose?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 07 2014, @04:47PM
No he wanted the version number!
(Score: 4, Funny) by Lagg on Friday November 07 2014, @05:18PM
That seems to be the pattern every time I have to explain this to people. Next time it's going to be brokenrecord -vv
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(Score: 2) by tathra on Friday November 07 2014, @04:29PM
we're not a sister site of slashdot. we're not their partner or anything. we're competition. why the hell should we not accept articles that run there, especially when we have a dire need for article submissions? and if our members want to submit articles to both sites, why is that a problem? "waaaaaah, i already read this article!", really? then what about everyone else who doesn't go there, i guess we just don't need to see these articles? in fact, lets just not post any articles at all since slashdot will eventually run them all anyway!
(Score: 2) by hubie on Friday November 07 2014, @05:02PM
I agree. I don't bother checking Slashdot or any other site when I put in submissions. I will sometimes go for days at a time without checking this site, so I will so a search here to see if it has been posted yet, but I really don't care what other sites are posting, particularly if I don't go to those sites.
As for Pickens postings, I don't care that they are cross-posted, and the stuff he posts generally seems to be appropriate for this site.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 07 2014, @07:19PM
the problem isn't that it was posted to slashdot, per se. The problem is that it's a shitty story. (Although slashdot is known for shitty stories, so go figure).
(Score: 2) by meisterister on Friday November 07 2014, @08:34PM
This provides us with the opportunity to consider the quality of discussion here relative to the other site. I'm going to don my UI monstrosity armour and check it out.
(May or may not have been) Posted from my K6-2, Athlon XP, or Pentium I/II/III.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 07 2014, @01:59PM
Well, there are none of APK's => HOSTS file posts here or his subsequent stalking and harassment whenever someone calls him out for his shitware, or that bennet something-or-other feller who uses slashdot as his personal shitblog, or theodp's constant code.org shitposts, so there's that...
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 07 2014, @03:54PM
Probably SN set up a hosts file to block apk. ;-)
(Score: 3, Insightful) by urza9814 on Friday November 07 2014, @08:02PM
Nobody cares. I'd bet most people here aren't reading Slashdot anymore. I'm not. I don't have time to wade through that trash heap. So this story was news to me, and I enjoyed reading it. If you want to take that away you can go ahead and fuck off.
(Score: 2) by cykros on Tuesday November 11 2014, @03:15AM
If you're coming here for the articles, you're doing it wrong. That's clearly what Playboy is for.
Feel free to complain once the comments here are mirrors of those on Slashdot. Until then, I doubt you'll find any fucks given.