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posted by martyb on Thursday February 03 2022, @02:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the actions-have-consequences dept.

DECISION – 'aristarchus':

Introduction:

Actions have consequences. This is not a matter of free speech or censorship.

Doxing "Doxing or doxxing is the act of publicly revealing previously private personal information about an individual or organization, usually via the internet." This is the definition upon which we are basing this decision. Legally, the term does not appear to be well-defined in the US but doxing is also covered by laws relating to harassment, threats, and abuse. Elsewhere in the world, the definitions are sometimes more clearly defined but might cover a broader interpretation than the US definitions. Which interpretation is applicable could depend on the location of the perpetrator.

Background:

We first noticed that something was amiss in late 2020. Submissions from 'aristarchus' would contain certain words, phrases and names which were apparently unconnected with the rest of the content. We were unable to understand their significance at that time, but they would be meaningful to the intended victim. (Story submissions by 'aristarchus' often contain additional material that he has inserted himself.) In almost all cases we removed them prior to posting the submission as a story because they had no bearing on the rest of the submission.

In late 2021 the doxing became more blatant both in comments that were made to stories and as well as on IRC. We also contacted the victim (by now it was obvious to us who it was) who responded and explained what had been published, where and when. We also discovered additional material that had not been seen by the victim. He had been suffering this abuse for a considerable time.

Please Note:

This investigation is not something that has been carried out purely on a whim by the admins on this site. During it we have consulted with and taken advice from a representative of the board of directors. (As an aside, SoylentNews PBC has never been 'run' by 'TheMightyBuzzard' or any of the current admin staff whose names you know well.) This is a serious matter and the investigation was conducted with utmost discretion by a very small team.

To ensure that 'aristarchus' is aware of this Decision he will receive an Admin-to-User message and an email to the address associated with his username drawing his attention to it.

Publishing Personal Information:

It is now apparent that 'aristarchus' has doxed at least one person in our community, and possibly others who may have left the site rather than suffer the harassment. This is not a single act, but has taken place repeatedly over a significant period of time.

'aristarchus' has published the victim's full name, where the victim lives, and the victim's employer. Presumably he believes this information to be accurate. We have seen additional comments that contain threats and state very personal information, such that posting them here would likely do further damage. We are trying to be discreet. If it were you, would you want us to air all the information that has been revealed? This action might also have placed other members of the victim's family at risk from abuse or embarrassment.

It is obvious that 'aristarchus' has conducted research away from this site. SoylentNews PBC does not hold such information nor has it been ever been declared in any comments.

We can only guess at the true reason behind these disclosures: at the very least it appears to be a smear campaign.

What We Have Done So Far:

  • The victim has a full copy of all the evidence that we have been able to trace to date. The evidence was all publicly accessible. We are not aware of a compromise of any other community members' information. We are not going to indicate where this information might be found.
  • We have made a separate backup of the database to ensure that evidence should not be lost.
  • We have removed personal information from database comments and IRC logs where possible.
  • It is entirely for the victim to decide whether to seek legal redress in this matter.

Options:

There are 2 options open to us.

(1) Permanent Ban

  • 'aristarchus' will face a full and permanent ban from this community.
  • His account(s) will be completely disabled.
  • Any further posting he may make to the site will be treated as Spam.

(2) Temporary Ban

  • 'aristarchus' will face a temporary ban of 3 months where his account(s) will be disabled. He will be able to restore his 'aristarchus' account when his ban ends. His conduct during this time will be taken into consideration before his account is reactivated.
  • During the ban 'aristarchus' may still post on the site as an 'Anonymous Coward', with all the limitations that are associated with that i.e. no journal, no ability to moderate, etc. Whether he wishes to make his identity known in his AC posts is entirely up to him.
  • During and subsequent to the ban he is to act as we would expect any other member of this community to act. He is not to disrupt other discussions nor is he to continue to complain about his treatment. The ban is entirely a consequence of his own actions. We will not discuss this matter publicly. If he has complaints he may contact us via email as usual.
  • He is to refrain immediately and completely from harassing other members of this community.
  • Any serious future abuses by 'aristarchus' can result in a permanent ban being imposed without further warning.

We acknowledge that 'aristarchus' regularly makes insightful and interesting observations and we recognize that he has many supporters on this site. That is why we have offered the option of a conditional Temporary ban.

Action/Conclusion:

'aristarchus' must now decide which ban he wishes to accept. This is not negotiable – there are no other options open to him. If he does not respond either by commenting here or by email within 48 hours of the release of this Decision then we will assume that he has chosen the Temporary Ban and he is bound by the conditions stated within it. He may elect to change to a Permanent ban at any time.

For legal reasons we do not intend to comment further. The community can now see why several of the site admins have been putting in long working days, sometimes in excess of 12 hours since just before Christmas. We are exhausted and need to have a period of normal activity so that we can recover. We urge the community to be circumspect and restrained in the discussions to this Decision – there is little to be gained from inflaming the current situation any further. We ask you not to speculate about the identity of the victim.

 
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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday February 04 2022, @12:28AM (9 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday February 04 2022, @12:28AM (#1218489) Journal

    I'm with you on this but I don't think it's ever going to happen unfortunately. As they say "be the change you wish to see in the world," I only ever post logged in, but it seems like almost no one else thinks this way.

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    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 04 2022, @05:05AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 04 2022, @05:05AM (#1218564)

    Please no. We ACs are not an organized group with ill intent, we are sometimes truly earnest individuals and sometimes shills; this is not arguing "but some fascists are nice people" this is "but some people live in environments which are unsafe but still deserve to participate in society."

    If Dr. Li Wenliang had gotten the word out more successfully, where would society be today? If he were on SN, what odds of a different course?

    Yes, textbots and autosocks threaten us. But this is why we mod; because as long as enough modders really do try their best to be impartial, the impact on the average user is truly minimal.

    Some few users do see - and then mod down - the garbage; thank you. It's vile to open the wrong -1 post and it's filled with hate. Thank you so much for dealing with that garbage and downmodding. Like all sanitation work, the task deserves more public honour.

    But we have this system specifically so that we can have a truly open-access discussion, which is priceless to some of us.

    Sad maybe, pathetic maybe, but true for reasons none of your business, SN is my main community and social network.

    Please don't take this away from we long term ACs. We have reasons.

    I miss MDC. :(

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 04 2022, @11:22AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 04 2022, @11:22AM (#1218612)

      I've been on S/N since the beginning, and at least half the vile posts are from "named" (actually pseudonym) accounts. Some "named" accounts are famous for it.

    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday February 04 2022, @11:47PM (2 children)

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday February 04 2022, @11:47PM (#1218853) Journal

      The site's notional immune system has long since failed, that's my point. There were never enough earnest, good-faith posters to begin with, and it's an order of magnitude easier to shit on the rug than it is to clean shitstains out of the rug. Add that to a dysfunctional, barely-organized admin team with less backbone than the average tunicate, and the die was cast from the beginning.

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      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 05 2022, @12:19AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 05 2022, @12:19AM (#1218865)

        As I was saying...

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 05 2022, @01:53AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 05 2022, @01:53AM (#1218889)

        The site's notional immune system has long since failed

        Respectfully disagree with that subjective assessment.

        I browse here at default normally. Sometimes I go to -1 or +1, and when I do it's quite discernible. The system isn't perfect but we definitely DO have enough good faith posters and modders to make it a valuable space.

        it's an order of magnitude easier to shit on the rug than it is to clean shitstains out of the rug

        This is precisely what modding does; it takes time to post a shitstain, but very little time to mod it down, giving the good side an asymmetric advantage.

        That advantage is lost to the pros who copy-paste from their library of garbage, and to the coming wave of textbots that will flood us with "argh that's a dumb human - or a smart bot? argh" junk.

        But for now we're definitely winning. View some ~40-post article at -1 and at +2 and you'll very clearly see that by and large it works.

        PS - you're one of the better informed voices that keeps me coming back, AH. Thanks in particular for your biology/medicine insights.

  • (Score: 2) by DavePolaschek on Friday February 04 2022, @02:00PM

    by DavePolaschek (6129) on Friday February 04 2022, @02:00PM (#1218637) Homepage Journal

    FWIW, I cannot remember having posted as an AC on SN.

    I was tempted to post this one AC, just to try and get a lot of “funny” mods, though.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 04 2022, @05:00PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 04 2022, @05:00PM (#1218716)
    Some of us used to do that, then realized that this place was a total shit show (and a large part of that was the target's behaviour). If the editors had acted then, we would not be having this conversation now.

    But given the libertarian bent of many, this was inevitable.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 05 2022, @07:42AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 05 2022, @07:42AM (#1218959)

      So you are saying that aristarchus could post whatever he wants, but the target should have been stopped from posting?

      The journals are there for ANYBODY to post what they think on any topic. You want to choose who can do that though. That is not what 'free' means.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 06 2022, @01:23AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 06 2022, @01:23AM (#1219140)

        So you are saying that aristarchus could post whatever he wants, but the target should have been stopped from posting?

        Yes, would've been a good idea. Still a good idea.