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posted by martyb on Thursday February 03 2022, @02:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the actions-have-consequences dept.

DECISION – 'aristarchus':

Introduction:

Actions have consequences. This is not a matter of free speech or censorship.

Doxing "Doxing or doxxing is the act of publicly revealing previously private personal information about an individual or organization, usually via the internet." This is the definition upon which we are basing this decision. Legally, the term does not appear to be well-defined in the US but doxing is also covered by laws relating to harassment, threats, and abuse. Elsewhere in the world, the definitions are sometimes more clearly defined but might cover a broader interpretation than the US definitions. Which interpretation is applicable could depend on the location of the perpetrator.

Background:

We first noticed that something was amiss in late 2020. Submissions from 'aristarchus' would contain certain words, phrases and names which were apparently unconnected with the rest of the content. We were unable to understand their significance at that time, but they would be meaningful to the intended victim. (Story submissions by 'aristarchus' often contain additional material that he has inserted himself.) In almost all cases we removed them prior to posting the submission as a story because they had no bearing on the rest of the submission.

In late 2021 the doxing became more blatant both in comments that were made to stories and as well as on IRC. We also contacted the victim (by now it was obvious to us who it was) who responded and explained what had been published, where and when. We also discovered additional material that had not been seen by the victim. He had been suffering this abuse for a considerable time.

Please Note:

This investigation is not something that has been carried out purely on a whim by the admins on this site. During it we have consulted with and taken advice from a representative of the board of directors. (As an aside, SoylentNews PBC has never been 'run' by 'TheMightyBuzzard' or any of the current admin staff whose names you know well.) This is a serious matter and the investigation was conducted with utmost discretion by a very small team.

To ensure that 'aristarchus' is aware of this Decision he will receive an Admin-to-User message and an email to the address associated with his username drawing his attention to it.

Publishing Personal Information:

It is now apparent that 'aristarchus' has doxed at least one person in our community, and possibly others who may have left the site rather than suffer the harassment. This is not a single act, but has taken place repeatedly over a significant period of time.

'aristarchus' has published the victim's full name, where the victim lives, and the victim's employer. Presumably he believes this information to be accurate. We have seen additional comments that contain threats and state very personal information, such that posting them here would likely do further damage. We are trying to be discreet. If it were you, would you want us to air all the information that has been revealed? This action might also have placed other members of the victim's family at risk from abuse or embarrassment.

It is obvious that 'aristarchus' has conducted research away from this site. SoylentNews PBC does not hold such information nor has it been ever been declared in any comments.

We can only guess at the true reason behind these disclosures: at the very least it appears to be a smear campaign.

What We Have Done So Far:

  • The victim has a full copy of all the evidence that we have been able to trace to date. The evidence was all publicly accessible. We are not aware of a compromise of any other community members' information. We are not going to indicate where this information might be found.
  • We have made a separate backup of the database to ensure that evidence should not be lost.
  • We have removed personal information from database comments and IRC logs where possible.
  • It is entirely for the victim to decide whether to seek legal redress in this matter.

Options:

There are 2 options open to us.

(1) Permanent Ban

  • 'aristarchus' will face a full and permanent ban from this community.
  • His account(s) will be completely disabled.
  • Any further posting he may make to the site will be treated as Spam.

(2) Temporary Ban

  • 'aristarchus' will face a temporary ban of 3 months where his account(s) will be disabled. He will be able to restore his 'aristarchus' account when his ban ends. His conduct during this time will be taken into consideration before his account is reactivated.
  • During the ban 'aristarchus' may still post on the site as an 'Anonymous Coward', with all the limitations that are associated with that i.e. no journal, no ability to moderate, etc. Whether he wishes to make his identity known in his AC posts is entirely up to him.
  • During and subsequent to the ban he is to act as we would expect any other member of this community to act. He is not to disrupt other discussions nor is he to continue to complain about his treatment. The ban is entirely a consequence of his own actions. We will not discuss this matter publicly. If he has complaints he may contact us via email as usual.
  • He is to refrain immediately and completely from harassing other members of this community.
  • Any serious future abuses by 'aristarchus' can result in a permanent ban being imposed without further warning.

We acknowledge that 'aristarchus' regularly makes insightful and interesting observations and we recognize that he has many supporters on this site. That is why we have offered the option of a conditional Temporary ban.

Action/Conclusion:

'aristarchus' must now decide which ban he wishes to accept. This is not negotiable – there are no other options open to him. If he does not respond either by commenting here or by email within 48 hours of the release of this Decision then we will assume that he has chosen the Temporary Ban and he is bound by the conditions stated within it. He may elect to change to a Permanent ban at any time.

For legal reasons we do not intend to comment further. The community can now see why several of the site admins have been putting in long working days, sometimes in excess of 12 hours since just before Christmas. We are exhausted and need to have a period of normal activity so that we can recover. We urge the community to be circumspect and restrained in the discussions to this Decision – there is little to be gained from inflaming the current situation any further. We ask you not to speculate about the identity of the victim.

 
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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Thursday February 03 2022, @07:15PM (13 children)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday February 03 2022, @07:15PM (#1218351) Journal

    I'd like to see some citations for that allegation...

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by khallow on Friday February 04 2022, @12:21AM (6 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 04 2022, @12:21AM (#1218487) Journal
    Here's what I found. Example 1 [soylentnews.org]:

    Power of the Mad Dog! We need more anthrax in the Arkansas territories! Start selling hides, instead of right-wing propaganda, Runsaway! Yes, you could do better, with another Murder-Death-Kill journal entry! Swat team may be on their way. Be very careful about where you put your hands.

    Example 2 [soylentnews.org]:

    Not only if you are a D is there no substance to the allegations, Republican judges found no substance to the allegations. And so, yes, you are correct, everyone who disagrees is an idiot, or a moron, and quite possibly both (cf. Runaway1956), and probably does not deserve to live, but the charity of the Liberal half of the nation keeps them going with disability benefits, social security, unemployment benefits, and all the other programs that these idiot morons try to scam. Actually, they do not deserve to live, but we keep them around because, Family means no one gets left behind. No matter how batshit crazy they have become by being sucked into the QAnon world. How crazy have you become, AC? Do you kneed an intervention? Post your particulars, and we can notify your family. And if you have no family, we can either alert the SWAT team, or tell you where to get a real deal on a single use RV. Your choice, let us know.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 04 2022, @06:15AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 04 2022, @06:15AM (#1218574)

      Garbage like that is why I've never had an account here.

      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday February 04 2022, @01:25PM (3 children)

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday February 04 2022, @01:25PM (#1218629) Journal

        That is weak. Sure, stay anonymous if you want, but staying anonymous because meanies like aristarchus might say mean things to you is pitiful. Especially since using a registered account is still anonymous unless you use your real name.

        --
        Washington DC delenda est.
        • (Score: 2) by Immerman on Friday February 04 2022, @05:28PM (2 children)

          by Immerman (3985) on Friday February 04 2022, @05:28PM (#1218727)

          Pseudonymous != anonymous. They're two very different concepts with only modest overlap.

          Most obvious modern example is Bitcoin - the fan club likes to pretend it's anonymous, and nobody can track your transactions, which is obvious bullshit to anyone that stops to think a moment. It's a completely public pseudonymous ledger that keeps a permanent record of every transaction you ever made, with your dubious anonymity protected only by most people's lack of interest or assets to identify the person behind the pseudonym.

          On forums the price of psuedonymity instead of anonymity is dealing with trolls and the like rather than the the DEA breaking in your door for selling drugs/weapons/slaves online - but there's still a price to be paid, and it sometimes sucks. No shame in not wanting to deal with that. Especially if you don't have enough to say to be worth building up a pseudonymous reputation.

          • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday February 05 2022, @03:36PM (1 child)

            by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday February 05 2022, @03:36PM (#1218995) Journal

            I agree that anonymity better suits people who fear discovery. I believe we should live with courage in our convictions.

            It's a lifestyle choice, a question of character.

            --
            Washington DC delenda est.
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 06 2022, @03:26AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 06 2022, @03:26AM (#1219174)

              If you really felt that strongly, then dox yourself. Live with the courage in your convictions.

    • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Sunday February 13 2022, @05:15PM

      by Reziac (2489) on Sunday February 13 2022, @05:15PM (#1221030) Homepage

      I regard that sort of thing as mere spewy nonsense, bordering on comedy. It's just words.

      Unless and until it becomes actions.

      Which has happened; I remember some of the Usenet flame wars that spilled over into Real Life. One guy ended up in jail (no idea if for legit charges, was the sort of life-ruining accusation that can be faked) and another lost his job because Big Company wearied of the harassment.

      Stupid spew is meh, whatever. I don't have to read it. But from the actions described, our Ari did take it out into Real Life, and that crosses the line.

      --
      And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 04 2022, @12:28AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 04 2022, @12:28AM (#1218488)

    He (jokingly?) threatened to dox Runaway on IRC at least once, IIRC. Not sure if he posted any of that on the site though.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 04 2022, @03:52AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 04 2022, @03:52AM (#1218543)

      > Just a prank bro

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 04 2022, @04:23PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 04 2022, @04:23PM (#1218695)
        It was obvious to anyone reading all this that it was about runaway. not even a need to speculate. Big talker, lots of lies (posting antivaxxer bs while secretly vaccinated is just one example). Plenty of racist and other hate speech. Seriously, who else would be so cowardly as to be afraid of having their public info posted here, where he's been shit-disturbing for ages.

        The real question is why his account was never perma-banned. And this question has been asked before. His behaviour was worse than ari's.

        • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Sunday February 13 2022, @05:26PM (1 child)

          by Reziac (2489) on Sunday February 13 2022, @05:26PM (#1221035) Homepage

          Speech is not action.
          Speech is not violence.
          Hate speech (hate against whom?) is not violence.
          Ari being a silly repetitive cunt with his words in a public forum is not violence.
          Saying "I want you to die in a fire and I'm gonna burn you" in a public forum is not violence. (Meh. Be more creative.)

          Ari actually doing shit to harm another out in Real Life is an ACTION.
          If you come to my house and set it on fire, that's an ACTION.

          See the difference??

          But some folks equate "speech we don't like" to "violence" because it gives them an excuse to be violent.

          "He was gonna hit me, so I hit him back first."
          -- Billy Martin

          --
          And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 14 2022, @10:41AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 14 2022, @10:41AM (#1221315)

            Wow, nice, sane post, Reziac!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 06 2022, @01:19AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 06 2022, @01:19AM (#1219138)

      Perhaps it was just one Soylentil warning another, in friendly fashion, that they were leaking a lot of personal information? But the advisee took it wrong, and panicked, and went to admin?