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posted by Fnord666 on Monday February 07 2022, @10:32PM   Printer-friendly
from the taking-a-RISC dept.

India goes RISC-V with VEGA processors

One of the main advantages of RISC-V architecture is that it is open, so any organization with the right skills can develop its own cores, and India's government has taken up this opportunity with the Microprocessor Development Programme (MDP) helping develop VEGA RISC-V cores locally.

Thanks to funding by the Ministry of Electronics and Information Technology (MeitY), the Centre for Development of Advanced Computing (C-DAC) managed to design five RISC-V processors ranging from a single-core 32-bit RISC-V microcontroller-class processor to a Linux capable quad-core 64-bit out-of-order processor.

[...] We should not expect a processor for desktop Linux anytime soon, as AS4161 [the 64-bit quad-core] mostly targets storage and networking applications.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Monday February 07 2022, @10:40PM (7 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 07 2022, @10:40PM (#1219535) Journal

    We should not expect a processor for desktop Linux anytime soon

    Back in 1999, just be patient for open source to gain momentum.

    Just be patient for the Linux OS to gain momentum.

    Now all major corporations embrace open source and Linux -- including Microsoft among them.

    Is there any reason to doubt that given time there WILL be desktop Linux RISC V processors? And server class processors?

    Or are we to believe that this simply will never happen, so we can just safely ignore the 'distraction' of RISC V.

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday February 08 2022, @12:53AM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Tuesday February 08 2022, @12:53AM (#1219575) Journal

    We have your RISC-V right here [intc.com].

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 08 2022, @01:22AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 08 2022, @01:22AM (#1219587)

    There are already desktop-class RISC-V chips and boards and plenty of MCUs on the market. If it weren't for the chip shortage, you would be able to buy them, too!

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by RamiK on Tuesday February 08 2022, @01:44AM (2 children)

    by RamiK (1813) on Tuesday February 08 2022, @01:44AM (#1219590)

    Is there any reason to doubt that given time there WILL be desktop Linux RISC V processors? And server class processors?

    SiFive's HiFive Unmatched [crowdsupply.com] is shipping in 3 days. The early release was benchmarked here [phoronix.com] and there's folks on youtube running doom and browsing on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqekGqREf9k [youtube.com] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrJi7tX0jE8 [youtube.com]

    Cost-performance is obviously not there yet but it's borderline-viable RISC-V linux desktop that's available on the market so... Yeah. No reason whatsoever.

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    • (Score: 2) by NateMich on Tuesday February 08 2022, @02:44AM (1 child)

      by NateMich (6662) on Tuesday February 08 2022, @02:44AM (#1219603)

      I thought SiFive were finished with that board already and decided to move on to something else?

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by RamiK on Tuesday February 08 2022, @04:04AM

        by RamiK (1813) on Tuesday February 08 2022, @04:04AM (#1219622)

        I thought SiFive were finished with that board already and decided to move on to something else?

        That's what I've read and I did notice Mouser run out of stock... But it seems crowdsupply are still selling them?

        "Orders placed now ship Feb 11, 2022."

        ( https://www.crowdsupply.com/sifive/hifive-unmatched [crowdsupply.com] )

        Anyhow, even if they too exhausted their stock, "given time there WILL be desktop Linux RISC V processors?" was asked and answered half a year ago when they shipped. As for the future, Horse Creek p550 should be about ready to ship, provided the supply chain shortages won't get in the way...

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  • (Score: 2) by driverless on Tuesday February 08 2022, @02:19PM (1 child)

    by driverless (4770) on Tuesday February 08 2022, @02:19PM (#1219710)

    I was unable to find any information about the schedule for VEGA silicon

    And thus it was ever the case for RISC-V. Anything around it falls into one of three classes:

    1. Eyewateringly expensive but otherwise run-of-the-mill performance CPUs (HiFive)
    2. Toy CPUs (FE310)
    3. Vapourware

    There's also a fourth semi-class, buggy hardware, buggy software, no documentation, and patched kernel binaries you have to download from some server in Shenzhen to get it working.

    I'm saying that as someone who's developed for RISC-V. There still isn't anything out there that comes close to any old crappy secondhand Pi you found on eBay for ten dollars.

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday February 08 2022, @03:40PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 08 2022, @03:40PM (#1219721) Journal

      That reminds me. Any news on if Blue Origin will have a Fright Certified BE-4 engine?

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