You're right, I missed that it was a follow-up TC vote instead of discussion about the original one. That puts things back where my longer post left them: the whole thing still stinks.
I can understand him (and others) being pissed that people want to undermine the TC decision, but I also still think that the way the vote was handled in the first place fueled that fire. This was an odd thing for Debian: a distro that cautiously approaches sweeping changes has jumped head first into this one, despite problems, lack of maturity in the solutions, and a lack of consensus in the TC.
It's also looking like either Debian's policies or its people aren't holding up well when faced with contentious decisions. Hopefully the end result is that things end up better, with a stronger Debian. If not, though, there will still be other options. Not that I wish ill on the project or its members. Not at all, in fact. I've generally had good interactions with Debian and KDE folk (which is one of many reasons I still use Debian+KDE), so it's kind of a shame that this crap is happening. Still, maybe a shake-up will be good in the long-term, either for Debian or for something new that may come from it.
(Score: 2) by Marand on Sunday November 09 2014, @11:56PM
You're right, I missed that it was a follow-up TC vote instead of discussion about the original one. That puts things back where my longer post left them: the whole thing still stinks.
I can understand him (and others) being pissed that people want to undermine the TC decision, but I also still think that the way the vote was handled in the first place fueled that fire. This was an odd thing for Debian: a distro that cautiously approaches sweeping changes has jumped head first into this one, despite problems, lack of maturity in the solutions, and a lack of consensus in the TC.
It's also looking like either Debian's policies or its people aren't holding up well when faced with contentious decisions. Hopefully the end result is that things end up better, with a stronger Debian. If not, though, there will still be other options. Not that I wish ill on the project or its members. Not at all, in fact. I've generally had good interactions with Debian and KDE folk (which is one of many reasons I still use Debian+KDE), so it's kind of a shame that this crap is happening. Still, maybe a shake-up will be good in the long-term, either for Debian or for something new that may come from it.