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I'm worried, What happened to the lessons of the last century? I had a grandmother who lived through both world wars and lived to own and use a smartphone.

Much important history has faded from living memory. We mock, harass and intimidate our historians and philosophers.

We for get the optimism and courage of our parents' generation who stood up for civil rights, equality and social justice. We look the other way as hard-won rights are eroded. We sit idly by while we let tyrants exploit us and dismantle our democratic structures and rob us of our sustenance.

At times like these I turn to popular music for inspiration and wisdom. I would like to share one particular retrospectively enthusiastic piece I've recently discovered from more optimistic times and I'd like to think it hasn't been in vain quite yet. We are still the human race.

It's by Montrose (also a Scottish town) and is called Space Station #5 and goes like this:

Start, with the sun
And move on out
The future's in the skies above
The heavens unfold
And a new star is born
Space and time makin' love

Now, I'm sure that's the sort of thing Homer Simpson had on his 8 track in his car back in the day.

I don't care. It's much better than war.

 

Reply to: Re:rats abandoning ship

    (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday February 15 2022, @09:06PM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 15 2022, @09:06PM (#1221882)

    It's almost like you believe the Koch Brothers were solely responsible?

    I believe we have several posts where all you mention of the Euromaidan protests was the Koch brothers. Like here [soylentnews.org] in this very thread.

    Take away Koch funding, how does Maidan sustain itself?

    Here [soylentnews.org]:

    You didn't listen to the man, did ya? The "west" engineered that coup. Mearsheimer doesn't say so, but I'm aware that the Koch brothers were prime movers in the coup. We quite literally backed fascists and neo-Nazis in the coup.

    Here [soylentnews.org]:

    You might ask if the US' actions in Ukraine conform with international law. Let us not forget that the Koch brothers invested 14 billion dollars into overturning Ukraine's existing, legitimate government.

    Here [soylentnews.org]:

    Absolutely not. Why would I? I'm perfectly well aware that the Koch brothers spent 14 billion dollars to overthrow a government in Ukraine. I should believe they wouldn't do the same here? I'm to believe that Soros wouldn't do the same?

    Here: [soylentnews.org]

    Russia was not the "enemy of the United States" until the United States started diddling Russia and her neighbors. Do Ukraine and Georgia ring any bells? If there's a "cold war" or any other type of war, WE STARTED IT!! In effect, we allowed the Koch brothers to bombard a near neighbor (Ukraine) with 14 billion dollars worth of economic munitions. They toppled the ligitimate government, and installed a fascist government in it's place, RIGHT ON RUSSIA'S BORDERS!!

    Here: [soylentnews.org]

    If the US were concerned about corruption in Ukraine, the Koch brothers would have been blocked from overthrowing the legitimately elected, if corrupt, government they found there.

    Here: [soylentnews.org]

    There are about 14 billion witnesses to the Koch brothers financing the overthrow of Ukraine's legitimate government. Of course, you'll probably have to dig them out of cellars and whatnot.

    To summarize, you probably should have been saying something different for the past three years. I also see that the very last post I quoted cites some crazy blogger by the name of Karoli Kuns who in the 2014 story you cited (which would have taken place during the final protests prior to President Yanukovych's departure and removal from office) made zero effort to make a coherent argument. For example, this is her take on the Koch brothers.

    In December, Koch Industries acquired Molex for $7.2 billion. Molex is a global company which maintains business centers in Ukraine, Russia, Poland and other European countries. The acquisition does not necessarily suggest anything untoward, but the Molex acquisition was the first I found with operations in that country. Would there be a vested interest in exacerbating the underlying conflict in order to create enough chaos to dislodge the oligarchs?

    I don't know. I do find it curious that countries with dangerous levels of unrest -- Ukraine, Venezuela and Thailand -- are struggling under the burden of oligarchies, inequality and corruption, something the libertarian Kochs know a lot about.

    Perhaps this statement from Koch Industries' press release about the Molex acquisition reveals more than they intended:

    "We’re looking forward to applying our Market-Based Management philosophy at Molex to help identify and capture additional opportunities.”

    These protesters need to be careful not to trade one set of oligarchs for another.

    The only solid facts, related to the Koch brothers, in here are that the Koch brothers made a purchase of a business with some sort of presence in Ukraine (she didn't even bother to determine how much of a presence) and a pretty vanilla press release about the merger. From that, she spun a tale of US oligarches preying on countries with "dangerous levels of unrest".

    I never did see anything backing up your claim that the Koch brothers spent $14 billion USD on Euromaidan. But that claim did get repeated a lot.

    All those rich Ukrainian oligarches who are abandoning ship today weren't helping?

    Why are they abandoning ship, Runaway? Russia isn't invading, right?

    It's an interesting case of cognitive dissonance here. Russia supposedly is just defending its interests. But then you smugly observe the chaotic effects that this alleged defense has on poor Ukraine.

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