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Journal by turgid

I'm worried, What happened to the lessons of the last century? I had a grandmother who lived through both world wars and lived to own and use a smartphone.

Much important history has faded from living memory. We mock, harass and intimidate our historians and philosophers.

We for get the optimism and courage of our parents' generation who stood up for civil rights, equality and social justice. We look the other way as hard-won rights are eroded. We sit idly by while we let tyrants exploit us and dismantle our democratic structures and rob us of our sustenance.

At times like these I turn to popular music for inspiration and wisdom. I would like to share one particular retrospectively enthusiastic piece I've recently discovered from more optimistic times and I'd like to think it hasn't been in vain quite yet. We are still the human race.

It's by Montrose (also a Scottish town) and is called Space Station #5 and goes like this:

Start, with the sun
And move on out
The future's in the skies above
The heavens unfold
And a new star is born
Space and time makin' love

Now, I'm sure that's the sort of thing Homer Simpson had on his 8 track in his car back in the day.

I don't care. It's much better than war.

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday February 15 2022, @10:20PM (15 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 15 2022, @10:20PM (#1221928) Journal
    There's more of that smug, dissonant pathology.

    Way back when, fusty was spinning [soylentnews.org] a tale about how corrupt the US was (it was a straw man argument, apparently, without my knowledge, I had come to believe that the US was much less corrupt than Canada and the UK) and that somehow that excused the much greater corruption of China. So he linked [transparency.org] to a map of countries sorted by perceived corruption, ignoring that China was much more corrupt by that index than the US was - yet another fusty own goal.

    Anyway, if you look at that map, you see an interesting thing. The Ukraine was pretty bad, but Russia was worse. So maybe they would execute all the mean Ukrainian oligarchs. But it's more likely that they'd just steal a bunch from them and transfer that to mean Russian oligarchs.
  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday February 15 2022, @10:32PM (3 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 15 2022, @10:32PM (#1221937) Homepage Journal

    But it's more likely that they'd just steal a bunch from them and transfer that to mean Russian oligarchs.

    Better to transfer that wealth to mean Western oligarchs.

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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday February 15 2022, @10:47PM (2 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 15 2022, @10:47PM (#1221944) Journal

      Better to transfer that wealth to mean Western oligarchs.

      They already are.

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday February 15 2022, @11:16PM (1 child)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 15 2022, @11:16PM (#1221957) Homepage Journal

        Thank you for that admission.

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        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday February 15 2022, @11:36PM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 15 2022, @11:36PM (#1221965) Journal
          That was relevant why? I'll note that Russian oligarchs are western too. But there are places a lot more straight than Russia.
  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday February 16 2022, @02:52AM (10 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday February 16 2022, @02:52AM (#1222021) Journal

    You're funny... Euromaidan was pure American/CIA. Funny how this story has you all shooting at each other. The idea here is to keep Europe from trading with Russia/China and forming real competing (with US finance) economic alliances. "De-dollarization" is seen as the real threat. The IMF will blow up the universe first

    Nobody but the US wants war. Russia doesn't want it on its border and Ukraine certainly doesn't want it on its territory.

    You may now resume your propagandapalooza fest

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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday February 16 2022, @04:54AM (9 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 16 2022, @04:54AM (#1222060) Journal

      Euromaidan was pure American/CIA.

      Then where did the huge number of protestors on the streets come from?

      The idea here is to keep Europe from trading with Russia/China and forming real competing (with US finance) economic alliances. "De-dollarization" is seen as the real threat. The IMF will blow up the universe first

      Unless, of course, you happen to be wrong, say because you don't have a clue.

      Nobody but the US wants war. Russia doesn't want it on its border and Ukraine certainly doesn't want it on its territory.

      And yet, Russia is the one playing the war games and the war is on neighboring Ukraine's territory. You need a new narrative fusty.

      You may now resume your propagandapalooza fest

      I find it remarkable how people are coming up with these stilted, dumbass narratives and blaming me for bringing the propaganda. I didn't make you all idiots.

      • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday February 16 2022, @05:01AM (8 children)

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday February 16 2022, @05:01AM (#1222062) Journal

        blaming me for bringing the propaganda

        :-) Not just you... Eh, whatever, go nuts, you're fun to watch

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        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday February 16 2022, @06:14AM (7 children)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 16 2022, @06:14AM (#1222073) Journal
          Didn't take you long to go to those empty one liners [soylentnews.org]! Power move!
          • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday February 16 2022, @06:18AM (6 children)

            by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday February 16 2022, @06:18AM (#1222074) Journal

            There's no other way to respond to lies and propaganda

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            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday February 16 2022, @02:13PM (5 children)

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 16 2022, @02:13PM (#1222133) Journal
              As before, I accept your abject surrender. Throw that sword on the growing pile. As before, I wonder what mental defect makes you think that merely calling something a lie somehow makes it so. Well, not my problem.
              • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday February 16 2022, @09:36PM (4 children)

                by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday February 16 2022, @09:36PM (#1222282) Journal

                As before, I accept your abject surrender.

                :-) Of course you do... since you have nothing to say anyway. Objectively, you are doing what you are accusing me of... Exactly how your war mongers are doing in their information wars. Today's the day, right?

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                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday February 17 2022, @12:01AM (3 children)

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 17 2022, @12:01AM (#1222323) Journal

                  Exactly how your war mongers are doing in their information wars.

                  Who again has 150k troops on the border of the Ukraine? You've lost this argument weeks ago.

                  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday February 17 2022, @12:36AM (2 children)

                    by fustakrakich (6150) on Thursday February 17 2022, @12:36AM (#1222329) Journal

                    :-) Where do you get your news from? You're still war mongering there. Look at the bright side, you can declare victory every day the invasion doesn't happen, like those crazy Christians with their failed doomsday predictions..

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                    La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                    • (Score: 2, Funny) by khallow on Thursday February 17 2022, @12:49AM (1 child)

                      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 17 2022, @12:49AM (#1222335) Journal

                      Where do you get your news from?

                      No, the problem here is not the news, not the imaginary Western warmongers, but that there's a pile of Russian troops on that border.

                      Look at the bright side, you can declare victory every day the invasion doesn't happen

                      Sorry, it's going to take regime change in Russia for a real victory at this point. As long as Putin or his like are in power, we can return to this situation in a few short weeks.