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Journal by DannyB
I am unsure which one this is.
Background:
Turkey is a NATO member.
Turkey buys Russian made air defense system(s).
Turkey is excluded from the F-35 program because of this.
Putin drags Russia into world war III.
US tells Turkey that if it sends its Russian made air defense systems to Ukraine, it can be allowed back in to the F-35 program.
This means that Russian planes invading Ukraine air space would be shot down with Russian made air defense systems.
I am too stupid to distinguish whether this is Poetic Justice or Ironic Justice.
Please help me Obi Wan Kenobi. Your[1] my only hope.
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[1]Hay Hey, that's how all the youngsters say it these daze.
Poetic justice or ironic justice?
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-- Woody Allen
(Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Thursday March 24 2022, @03:40PM (31 children)
While the rest of NATO dithers over human rights issues, Turkey goes about it's genocidal way, and little is said by anyone.
https://greekcitytimes.com/2021/06/01/turkey-kurdistan-genocide/ [greekcitytimes.com]
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/10/18/turkeys-war-syrian-kurds-approaching-genocide-blumenthal-says/4021680002/ [usatoday.com]
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/hate-crimes-against-kurds-rise-in-turkey-675473 [jpost.com]
https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/2020/06/08/Turkey-is-committing-war-crimes-and-crimes-against-humanity-in-Syria [genocidewatch.com]
https://ekurd.net/genocide-kurdish-case-turkey-2018-02-06 [ekurd.net]
Alas, there aren't a lot of photogenic little blue-eyed blonde Kurdish children to tug on the heartstrings of US and Euro woke people. No one notices the little atrocities committed against these less white victims.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 5, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Thursday March 24 2022, @04:02PM (8 children)
Ah, I see that it's expedient to pretend to give a shit about the Kurds today.
A few months ago, not so much... [rollingstone.com]
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 24 2022, @04:16PM (1 child)
But Runsaway never voted for that guy, he just defends him at every turn ;^)
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 24 2022, @04:48PM
Runaway thinks he is being awfully woke by dog-whistling Aryan ideals of beauty.
(Score: 3, Informative) by khallow on Thursday March 24 2022, @04:44PM (2 children)
It sounds to me like Runaway has been pretty consistent on this point.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 24 2022, @05:41PM (1 child)
You sure chime in awful often when runaway is criticized, and you sure have weird lengthy "arguments." Curious.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 24 2022, @06:49PM
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Thursday March 24 2022, @08:07PM (2 children)
Might it help you to put things into context, if I explain that I've actually met Kurds? You know, like, I've actually been to that region of the world, and talked to some of the people who live there? A years long internet relationship with a couple of them, that ended soon after the invasion of Iraq? And, to this day, I still don't know if they or their families are still alive.
I don't know any native Ukrainians. (American-Ukrainians, lots of them, no native Ukrainians.) I did know native Kurds.
Thanks for playing along though.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2022, @12:30AM (1 child)
Let me guess, you have a black friend too.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday March 25 2022, @01:14AM
Nice dogwhistle you've got there . . .
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 24 2022, @05:19PM (21 children)
So now you are suddenly concerned about the plight of "less white" folk? Are you trolling or do you not see the irony? Or is this just a bit of virtue signalling? At long last, sir, have you no shame?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday March 24 2022, @08:09PM (20 children)
I have zero shame, since you ask. The fact that your ilk calls me a racist has no bearing on my view of people.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 24 2022, @09:53PM (19 children)
Yeah no racism hiding behind "save my offspring from a future of brown people"! Plus the multitude of instances where you would side with police over the murdered black person.
I'll grant that you seem to be trying to not be racist, but you won't get there until you acknowledge your prejudice and begin actively working to purge it from your mind. Sadly you just promote white supremacist rhetoric while whining over and over about how totally not racisssss you are. I don't believe in you, but I believe in the possibility you could wise up.
Moar whataboutism! Who needs self reflection?? You're worse than aristarchus claiming he didn't sock puppet.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday March 24 2022, @10:03PM (18 children)
No, that ain't what I've said, at all.
I've argued against the other racism. Today's idiot bastard of a president has nominated a Supreme Court justice, not because she's the best for the job but because she has ovaries which won't produce white babies. I don't hear much of "Oh, she has done this" and "she has done that" or "she stood firm on this controversial issue". I hear, "it's time for a black woman!"
Echoes of Hillary, much? Instead of Hillary, we have the Cuck in Chief.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2022, @12:32AM (3 children)
Yes it is. Anyone that has been around here with any sort of memory knows how you have claimed that white replacement theory is true multiple times.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Friday March 25 2022, @01:12AM (2 children)
Yep. Biden told the replacements to surge the border, remember? Planned Parenthood continues to kill American babies, the fertility rate continues to drop, fewer and fewer black or white babies, but the illegal aliens are welcomed. WTF do you call that if not a replacement theory?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2022, @04:58PM
And they are coming for your women, little runaway! Be afraid. Be very afraid.</sarcasm>
It just warms the cockles of my heart to think of our little runaway hiding in his basement, terrified of the "brown horde" surging across the border and headed his way. Yeehaw! Future's so bright, gotta wear shades!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 29 2022, @01:15AM
You just admitted it, you're so crazy you can't even maintain a single avenue of propaganda. We don't watch Fox so such blatant waffling and self contradicting bullshit is a very clear sign you're a racist redneck.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2022, @03:21AM (1 child)
ICFI/SEP/IWA-RFC: Fascistic demagogy from Republicans at hearings for Ketanji Brown Jackson [wsws.org]
It's a shame that this well-qualified candidate is subject to both the Democratic Party and your intersectional identity politics.
I suppose gun control is at least Constitutionally relevant. The only thing that stops a fascist militia is a workers militia using the 2A for its intended purpose.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday March 25 2022, @03:52AM
Best for the job, if you subscribe to Dem agendas. President Biden clearly announced why he chose her: Non-white with ovaries. The Cuck in Chief needs that virtue signaling shit.
As for "abuse", we need a small parade of little boys and girls to testify that she sexually abused them. In chambers, out of chambers, in her home, in their homes, in youth detention centers, in jailhouses - just like them up to tell their 'me-too' stories. Remember when the Dems pulled that 'me-too' shit on a Republican nominee? What goes around, comes around, and it really doesn't matter how preposterous the charges.
"Judge Jackson touched me too!! I can't remember where she touched me, or when, or who was around. But, SHE TOUCHED ME!!" What do you think the magic number would be? 20 kids? 100? 200? And, you've got to believe the kids, because they wouldn't make that shit up!
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2022, @04:51PM (11 children)
<rolls eyes>
Then maybe you should tune in to listen to her confirmation hearings where her qualifications and work experience has been picked over with a fine-toothed comb? Seriously, what rock have you ben hiding under this past week?
Well, yes, I will grant that there has been a bit of that too. It was a campaign promise of Biden that he would nominate a black woman to the SCOTUS. But, then, why shouldn't it be time to place a black woman on the SCOTUS? Are black women somehow inherently disqualified from being Supreme Court justices? What is it about her professional record that you object to? It looks to me like what you really object to is her gender and race. Maybe you could clarify for us exactly what you object to in Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson's professional record?
My, such an outburst! It looks to me like you are getting a bit emotionally overwrought here.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Friday March 25 2022, @05:36PM (6 children)
How gracious of you to admit that the woman was chosen on the grounds of race and gender.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 27 2022, @01:41AM (5 children)
Of course she was selected because of her race and gender! Biden promised that he would do it. It would be churlish to deny it. But it has not escaped my notice that you have glossed over the rest of what I had written. I will quote the salient bits again for your convenience:
And don't give me any bullshit that she doesn't have the necessary experience. On that front, she is more experienced entering the Supreme Court than some of the other currently seated Supreme Court Justices had when they started on the court. And, as I've already noted below, objecting that she hasn't put a label on which "school of thought" guides her decisions is really rather weak sauce. That objection lands as a bit of a dud. So, why not a black woman on the SCOTUS?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday March 27 2022, @02:06AM (4 children)
I really don't care whether a female black is on the Supreme Court. What I care about, is that she will uphold the law as she is supposed to do. Any justice who arrives at the Supreme Court with an agenda of any sort is suspect. Imagine if Harris had been appointed to the court, rather than being tapped for VP. We have a woman who continued to incarcerate people after she was ordered by superior authority to free them. We have a woman who victimized prisoners, disproportionately black prisoners, for her own gain. Can you IMAGINE her going to the Supreme Court?
Ketanji isn't the most disqualified black female that Biden could have nominated. But, there is little to show that she is really qaulified. Like many another Democrat, she wants to decriminalize child sexual exploitation. She should be disqualified right there.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 28 2022, @02:46AM (3 children)
Then why are you protesting so vehemently about her skin color and gender?
Interesting. So, what do you think of Trump's appointments of Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett? I don't recall you putting up much of a fuss about those appointments. Why is that? Or, perhaps I missed something? You do know that Trump chose them specifically because they were seen to be very pro-life and thus likely to overturn Roe v Wade, right?
OK, now this is just paranoid ranting and raving. There is almost zero chance that Harris is going to be appointed to the Supreme Court. Put that bogey(wo)man back in your closet!
<rolls eyes>Yeah, other than more than a decade as a federal judge, no, she doesn't have much experience at all.</rolls eyes>
No, she doesn't! And you would know this if you had bothered to listen to the confirmation hearings. Stop getting your "news" from Fox, OANN, Newsmax, et al.!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday March 28 2022, @04:00AM (2 children)
Trump didn't announce in advance that he was going to nominate a white person. Or a male. Or a female. Or a short person. Or an Asian. Or an orangatan. It seems that he shopped for the best conservative judge available.
Biden announced early on that he was going to nominate a black female.
Being black or white, being male or female, being short or tall, being Hispanic or Asian has absolutely fucking NOTHING to do with how good a judge you might be.
Biden may well have passed over 1, or 6, or 66, or even 1000 judges who were better qualified, because he wanted a black female. When your criteria centers on some quality that has zero bearing on your qualifications, you can't possibly be making the best choice for a judge. We already know that she is lenient toward sex offenders. Who else is she going to be lenient with? Armed robbers? We already see that with liberal prosecutors. Gang bangers? Yes, we are seeing that with liberal prosecutors. White collar crime? Drug traffikers? Sex traffikers? Terrorists? Mass/serial murderers? Who cares, right? She's black, she's female, she's liberal.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 28 2022, @10:55PM (1 child)
Actually, Trump made it quite clear that he would appoint a conservative, "pro-life" justice to the Supreme Court. It was a campaign promise.
Yes, he did. And for some historical context, Reagan promised that he would appoint the first woman to the Supreme Court. At the time, it was considered a bold political master stroke. So, why is the first black woman appointed to the Supreme Court a bridge too far for you?
OK, so then, we are agreed that, at least in principle, Judge Jackson can be every bit as good as, if not better than, any white, male, short/tall, Hispanic/Asian judge to choose from, yes? I mean, her skin color and/or gender should not be a limiting factor, right?
"May well have"? Surely, you can do a bit better than this. If there are so many better qualified candidates then surely you can give us some names, yes?
Make up your mind! Does it have "zero bearing" or does it mean that she is not the best choice? If you are going to make these claims then you have to choose one or the other. And, if her skin color or gender means that she is not the best choice then tell us why.
No, we don't know this. And you would know the truth, if you had bothered to watch her confirmation hearings. Her child porn sentences fall into line with the way many (most?) other judges have gone when handing down sentences.
OK, now you are back into paranoid rant mode again. My prescription: stop watching Fox "News", OANN, Newsmax, et al.
Well, she's certainly black and female, but is she really all that liberal in her practice as a judge? I mean, I'm sure she is probably quite a bit more liberal than I am in her personal views. But, then, I tend to be rather conservative in my personal views. But she has made it clear in her confirmation hearings (and her rulings have typically borne this out) that when it comes to rendering a verdict she is rather mindful of "staying to her lane"---her words, not mine---and not legislating from the bench.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 28 2022, @11:23PM
She didn't even make it clear that she's female.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday March 25 2022, @05:46PM (3 children)
Jackson refuses to tell us what school of thought guides her decisions. Or, even if there is a school of thought. She may decide cases on a whim - she likes the lawyer in the blue suit, can't stand the lawyer in the brown suit. Nothing wrong with that. Police will readily admit that on any given day, they might pull over every green car and silver car that comes along, ignoring all the black, white, purple, and red cars. Or, they might pull over every car with a Latino driving, or only choose cars with pretty women driving. Whims don't profile - much.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 27 2022, @01:25AM (2 children)
Is that really the best you have? Seriously? That she refuses to slap a label on her "school of thought"? Newsflash: you can get a much more substantial idea of what guides her decision-making process by looking at her...wait for it!... over ten years of legal opinions which she has written on cases she has decided. If this is the best the opposition can do, then I see little to no reason why Judge Jackson should not be confirmed as a Supreme Court Justice. Congratulations, Judge Jackson!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 27 2022, @01:45AM (1 child)
You are correct, of course. And, if the woman has her way, child porn, child molestation, child sexual abuse, and more will be decriminalized. We are indeed looking at her judicial history.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 27 2022, @01:53AM
Where the hell are you getting this from? Stop watching Faux News, OANN, et al. and actually tune in to watch her confirmation hearings!
No, you are not. You are getting your talking points from alt-right talking heads. Don't be a ditto head cuck!
(Score: 4, Interesting) by khallow on Thursday March 24 2022, @04:28PM (1 child)
It gets [cnn.com] more poetic and ironic than that.
While the story doesn't mention it, there's cases of SAM systems being captured by the Ukrainians. If they can get that to work, then they may well have already shot down Russian airplanes with Russia's own equipment brought in during the invasion.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 24 2022, @08:09PM
Ukraine has always used Russian weapons, but it goes deeper than that. Many Russian weapons are made in Crimea. Before 2014 those were Ukrainian weapons. That was the main reason Putin invaded back then.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 24 2022, @10:57PM
Why would someone think Turkey does?
Turkey has leaned itself way out to obtain the Russian air defense system. Why would they go with the American solution now (if it were even offered to them).
And I bet in the unlikely event the system did get transferred to the Ukraine, Russia would send out an update deactivating it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2022, @12:15AM
Its fungibility and butthurt that Turkey gave the US MICs cut to Russia.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 19 2022, @08:59AM
Russia knows 100% of the features and limitations of Ukraine's air defense system. Including possible, sorry I mean probable, backdoors.