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posted by martyb on Monday November 17 2014, @11:15AM   Printer-friendly
from the more-systemd-fallout dept.

Longtime Debian contributor Tollef Fog Heen has announced his resignation from the Debian systemd maintainer team. His announcement states that "the load of the continued attacks is just becoming too much."

He has since written a detailed blog article surrounding the circumstances of his resignation. As he puts it,

I've been a DD for almost 14 years, I should be able to weather any storm, shouldn't I? It turns out that no, the mountain does get worn down by the rain. It's not a single hurtful comment here and there. There's a constant drum about this all being some sort of conspiracy and there are sometimes flares where people wish people involved in systemd would be run over by a bus or just accusations of incompetence.

This is yet another dramatic event affecting the Debian project in recent months. The adoption of systemd has been extremely controversial, even going so far as to result in calls for Debian to be forked. There have been other problems as of late, too, ranging from a serious bug breaking Wine just days before the Jessie freeze deadline, to the possibility of Debian GNU/kFreeBSD being dropped from Debian 8. And it was only just over a week ago that Joey Hess — another longtime Debian contributor — left the project, citing the "very unhealthy directions" that Debian has been led in lately.

Is the internal tension and strife caused by systemd about to tear the Debian project apart? Recent events such as the aforementioned have suggested that this is becoming more and more of a possibility. The repercussions of this drama will no doubt be felt wide and far, given Debian's own popularity, as well it forming the basis of other major Linux distros such as Ubuntu and Linux Mint.

 
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  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Monday November 17 2014, @12:30PM

    by VLM (445) on Monday November 17 2014, @12:30PM (#116669)

    But they "need" all that for the desktop linux users, because they're the only fictional people who matter.

    Its an interesting developmental anti-pattern where they've narrowcasted themselves into a tiny little niche where no one wants to be. No one. But its all for those imaginary users. Its all about blind belief and obedience to authority.

    Gentlemen, I believe we may be seeing the birth of a new religion. Personally I was hoping it would be emacs not desktop environment linux, but you can't win them all.

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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday November 17 2014, @12:36PM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 17 2014, @12:36PM (#116673) Journal

    Personally I was hoping it would be emacs not desktop environment linux, but you can't win them all.

    Too bad emacs was so immature it never got to implement a couple of FPS or RPG-es MMO style. We'd be talking about "year of emacs on desktop".

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    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Monday November 17 2014, @01:01PM

      by VLM (445) on Monday November 17 2014, @01:01PM (#116691)

      I was just thinking a day ago of what it would take to implement tinyfugue as an emacs extension, or would I be better off implementing something more "emacs like" that TF config language, or should I just run TF in a multi-term (I mostly use multi-term) or ansiterm.

      Since the late 80s I've gone thru cycles of complicating up my emacs until I get sick of it then going all simple with vi until I miss the features then back to emacs. Starting a new emacs cycle again now. I much prefer flycheck and helm to their generational predecessors I was using during last cycle.

    • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Monday November 17 2014, @03:27PM

      by tangomargarine (667) on Monday November 17 2014, @03:27PM (#116752)

      Well, it does have a "text-mode adventure game," it's just not MMO.

      http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CategoryGames [emacswiki.org]

      "Dunnet"

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