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posted by n1 on Wednesday November 19 2014, @01:33AM   Printer-friendly
from the peer-reviewed-study-confirms-it dept.

Phys.org is running a story on some of the issues with modern peer review:

Once published, the quality of any particular piece of research is often measured by citations, that is, the number of times that a paper is formally mentioned in a later piece of published research. In theory, this aims to highlight how important, useful or interesting a previous piece of work is. More citations are usually better for the author, although that is not always the case.

Take, for instance, Andrew Wakefield's controversial paper on the association between the MMR jab and autism, published in leading medical journal The Lancet. This paper has received nearly two thousand citations – most authors would be thrilled to receive a hundred. However, the quality of Wakefield's research is not at all reflected by this large number. Many of these citations are a product of the storm of controversy surrounding the work, and are contained within papers which are critical of the methods used. Wakefield's research has now been robustly discredited, and the paper was retracted by the Lancet in 2010. Nevertheless, this extreme case highlights serious problems with judging a paper or an academic by number of citations.

Personally, I've been of the opinion that peer review is all but worthless for quite a while. It's nice to know I'm not the only one who has issues with the process.

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @03:39AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @03:39AM (#117509)

    Censorship should be an option for those people, like yourself, who wish to limit their exposure to the real world.

    However, it should never be the default.

    Everyone should browse at -1 by default.

    If you want to subject yourself to the censorship the moderation system provides, then you should have to voluntarily sign up and enable it for your account, and your account alone.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Wednesday November 19 2014, @03:56AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 19 2014, @03:56AM (#117515) Journal

    If you want to subject yourself to the censorship the moderation system provides, then you should have to voluntarily sign up and enable it for your account, and your account alone.

    Isn't it a bit like saying: it's wrong for the SN members to value the community above other publicity?
    How about: if you do not want to subject yourself to the default setting, make yourself an account and read to whatever level you like? Because the members can do that.

    for those people, like yourself, who wish to limit their exposure to the real world.

    Careful with that inflammation, buddy, treat it early. You have no idea what threshold I'm using when browsing SN or what are my choice of limits in regards with the "exposure to the real world". As such, I don't see what stand you have to make value judgements.

    Anyway... allow me a question: if you are willing to unlimited expose yourself to the real world, why posting as AC? Make yourself an account and feel free to expose your real name and email address. Eh?

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
    • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @04:08AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @04:08AM (#117519)

      Why do I post as an AC? Because I'm not going to waste my time creating yet another fucking website account, especially when I don't need one to comment here. I've got enough other accounts that I rarely use for shitty sites that require them. I'm not going to create another one here! That would be fucking idiotic.

      Besides, it doesn't matter who posts a comment. The name is totally irrelevant. It's the message that's what matters. I don't care whose name is on a comment. I usually don't even bother to look. It's the comment I'm reading and replying to, not the goddamn name above it.

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday November 19 2014, @04:41AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 19 2014, @04:41AM (#117528) Journal

        Why do I post as an AC?

        Never asked that, never been interested.
        I asked what standing do you have to make judgement values about my willingness (or the lack thereof) to "exposed myself to real world".
        Used the matter of the "why not create an account?" to point you have limits in this regards, so you should accept others having them as well (take it as a hint: don't preach what you can't follow. It hurts the message).

        It's the message that's what matters.

        Others will tend to disagree. Even letting aside the matter of authorship, take for instance those who value some tunes more for the melody and less for the lyrics; is a bad thing?

        ...
        (speaking of "form over meaning": I don't care how strong you feel about the real world, using profanity in a gratuitous mode sounds bad to my ear. In other words, your form impacts on your message.
        ...
        Eh...eh... stop there. Don't even think to say "I don't care" in whatever form).

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @06:25AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @06:25AM (#117547)

        You don't need an account to set the threshold. I change it all the time.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @07:05AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @07:05AM (#117549)

        Are you some kinda moron?

      • (Score: 2) by monster on Thursday November 20 2014, @09:15AM

        by monster (1260) on Thursday November 20 2014, @09:15AM (#118051) Journal

        Besides, it doesn't matter who posts a comment. The name is totally irrelevant. It's the message that's what matters.

        You say it as if there hadn't ever been AC posts getting +5 moderation (hint: there are).

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Wednesday November 19 2014, @07:08AM

    by NotSanguine (285) <{NotSanguine} {at} {SoylentNews.Org}> on Wednesday November 19 2014, @07:08AM (#117550) Homepage Journal

    If you want to subject yourself to the censorship the moderation system provides, then you should have to voluntarily sign up and enable it for your account, and your account alone.

    Funny that. That's exactly what I do. I tend to browse at '-1' because I'm too lazy to change my settings every time I have moderator points. You can do that too.

    As someone who doesn't like censorship, why are you trying to foist your opinions and beliefs on everyone else and make them have the same experience that you do?

    Here comes one of my favorite quotes again:

    “The correct way to punctuate a sentence that states: "Of course it is none of my business, but -- " is to place a period after the word "but." Don't use excessive force in supplying such a moron with a period. Cutting his throat is only a momentary pleasure and is bound to get you talked about.” --Robert A. Heinlein

    Make of that what you will.

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    No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @04:41PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @04:41PM (#117743)

    Censorship should be an option for those people, like yourself, who wish to limit their exposure to the real world.

    "Exposure to the real world." Awesome. Sounds like it's supposed to mean that all opinions are valid while completely dismissing the possibility that some statements fail to be either opinions or coherent. Clearly, anyone who disagrees with this statement is a sheltered fascist.

    It's the message that's what matters.

    My message is m+ON2dhhqgsFa6R/N3HkbJHFukkJvtgj1VAclJA+4nyBkeF2XYOeGQuCx0VPomw7SynEkLBG1nYtScZ2XHdfrmk+Rv4Xmpjn+QPgdjtKZgI34L1PflPij9VEhEKFCbshK+rI0AbTFnc0Kb0RwgC1OOFMsmtaunI2Wk/5Qq8MV9m+bSOlrLyiAR5abffAcXrqK+7coR0HxZrvK2
    /AhRw3/PAbZkavnrKPhQNKQwNbO9kQoUxZivkX
    That's some deep matter, there, my friend. I hope you can appreciate it, and I'll be happy explain any parts that seem confusing to you.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 20 2014, @05:59PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 20 2014, @05:59PM (#118183)

      Shouldn't the second "k" have been a "c"?