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posted by janrinok on Wednesday November 19 2014, @11:25AM   Printer-friendly
from the I-hope-we-don't-regret-this dept.

Ian Jackson's general resolution to prevent init system coupling has failed to pass, the majority vote deciding that the resolution is unnecessary. This means that not only will Debian's default init be systemd, but packages will not be required to support other init systems. Presumably, this means that using other init systems on Debian (without using systemd as a base) will not be possible without major workarounds, or possibly at all. It also leaves the future of Debian projects such as kFreeBSD unclear, as systemd is linux specific.

The vote results can be found here

The winners are:

Option 4 "General Resolution is not required"

 
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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @01:26PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @01:26PM (#117636)

    I do hold Linus partially responsible for this. He should have come out very strongly against systemd. His opinion carries a lot of weight. By not using it in this case, where the only thing any sane person can say is that systemd is awfully flawed technology unsuitable for use, I think he helped contribute to the destruction of Debian. The beneficial contributions he has made to the open source community have been degraded by him not speaking out against systemd, in my opinion.

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  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @01:53PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @01:53PM (#117652)

    torvalds isn't an ignorant fool like the multitudes of systemd hater-tards out there

    he will also not suffer fools lightly

    systemd isn't the end of the world for linux any more than xorg or dbus was

    on the flipside, systemd might end up being the best trick they could ever have come up with to flush the deadwood out of the community, so to all you blind systemd haters out there... fuck off and go bitch on the windows and osx forums... your lack of positive contribution will not be missed

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @02:34PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @02:34PM (#117681)

      So you are right and everyone not agreeing is wrong. Nice, i bet your contributions are awesome.

    • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday November 19 2014, @03:54PM

      by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday November 19 2014, @03:54PM (#117725)

      Because what any technical community needs is to jettison the skeptics, sure.

      --
      "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
  • (Score: 3, Informative) by choose another one on Wednesday November 19 2014, @05:20PM

    by choose another one (515) on Wednesday November 19 2014, @05:20PM (#117750)

    I do hold Linus partially responsible for this. He should have come out very strongly against systemd. His opinion carries a lot of weight. By not using it in this case,

    Um, Linus _does_ use systemd, doesn't dislike it, and is on record as saying that. He obviously isn't going to come out strongly against it because he thinks it is good enough to use, but he has restricted his public opinions to that and not come out strongly in support of it either.

    http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/65402-torvalds-says-he-has-no-strong-opinions-on-systemd [itwire.com]

    • (Score: 2) by fnj on Wednesday November 19 2014, @05:42PM

      by fnj (1654) on Wednesday November 19 2014, @05:42PM (#117757)

      That's why linux is doomed. BSD for me.