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Debian General Resolution to Prevent Init System Coupling Fails to Pass

posted by janrinok on Wednesday November 19 2014, @11:25AM   Printer-friendly
from the I-hope-we-don't-regret-this dept.

novak writes:

Ian Jackson's general resolution to prevent init system coupling has failed to pass, the majority vote deciding that the resolution is unnecessary. This means that not only will Debian's default init be systemd, but packages will not be required to support other init systems. Presumably, this means that using other init systems on Debian (without using systemd as a base) will not be possible without major workarounds, or possibly at all. It also leaves the future of Debian projects such as kFreeBSD unclear, as systemd is linux specific.

The vote results can be found here

The winners are:

Option 4 "General Resolution is not required"

 
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  • (Score: 2) by cockroach on Wednesday November 19 2014, @03:14PM

    by cockroach (2266) on Wednesday November 19 2014, @03:14PM (#117700)

    Yes, systemd avoiders will have to develop the exact procedure to keep systemd out, and yes, that may become more and more difficult with time as systemd-itis spreads its tentacles into linux

    I've been thinking the same thing but eventually realized that rather than investing my time into a project which doesn't share my ideals (and permanently hacking my way around said project's idea of an init system) I would probably be happier if I just went somewhere else. There are alternatives and I think it makes sense to support them.

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  • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday November 19 2014, @04:08PM

    by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday November 19 2014, @04:08PM (#117732)

    I'm going to go out on a limb and say maybe you've switched from Firefox to Pale Moon? (genuinely curious)

    That was a pretty direct comparison I saw. I had a list of all the options to un-set in about:config, until the point where I realized you can't disable Australis via that route even (which had seemed to be a core Firefox set-in-stone guideline, that there was nothing you couldn't turn off via a:c). And yes, there's Classic Theme Restorer, but that isn't a complete solution either, so why not just leave for the sane-by-default option.

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    • (Score: 2) by cockroach on Wednesday November 19 2014, @04:17PM

      by cockroach (2266) on Wednesday November 19 2014, @04:17PM (#117736)

      Heh, I'm afraid I was speaking of Debian. I haven't tried Pale Moon yet, any good? I.e. does it sync, run on Linux / the BSDs etc?

      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday November 19 2014, @04:49PM

        by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday November 19 2014, @04:49PM (#117746)

        They have an "official unofficial" build for Linux, but I think the update process may be semi-manual on Linux.

        Haven't used sync myself so can't say on that front.

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