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I have noted before that Zelensky talks too much, demands too much, demonizes the Russians, and canonizes his own forces. Here, we can put to rest the assertion that bombing cities is Russia's preferred tactic, or strategy.
“The Russians fight poorly in the cities,” Mr. Podolyak said. “In the cities, it is possible to maneuver, and find cover, and you minimize losses; you can resist a longer time and inflict significant casualties on the Russians.”
There you have it. The ongoing destruction of Ukrainian cities is a choice that has been made by Ukraine, not Russia.
Let it be noted, that time and again, we have seen cities evacuated after Russian forces have overrun the cities. Ukraine won't evacuate the city a week before expected combat, it seems they prefer to keep their civilian human shields around. How can you demonize Russian artillery, if you don't have mounds of dead civilians to point to?
What we don't see yet, is an open admission that Ukraine sets up it's own rockets, artillery, anti-aircraft and more in apartment complexes.
Further, there is a rumor (remains unverified by myself) that Ukraine hands anti-tank and other weaponry to civilians in those apartment complexes, telling them to fire any appropriate target.
Time and again, we've seen apartment buildings hit, but few people bother to ask, "Why would the Russians be targeting an apartment?"
People, if your own army is setting up artillery, rockets and anti-tank weaponry in your apartment building, then your own army is not on your side.
Ukraine's story is much like Israel's story. Ain't no 'good guys' involved. Ukrainian leadership has made the cold, calculating decision to fight inside the cities.
“The Russians fight poorly in the cities,” Mr. Podolyak said. Geez, I wonder why. And, it seems that Ukrainians are pretty damned good at it! A scorched earth policy is a relatively easy decision for those who don't really care about the people living on that scorched earth!
A generous western media source - https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/06/14/world/russia-ukraine-war-news
A less generous Russian propaganda source - ttps://www.rt.com/russia/557154-ukraine-presidential-adviser-military-positions-cities/
Here we have a bit of papal milquetoast - https://www.businessinsider.co.za/pope-says-putin-russia-war-ukraine-good-bad-guys-2022-6
It would be nice if the old man were to say, "Russia bad because A, B, and C, Ukraine bad because X, Y, and Z." Instead he just blabbers around the issue, ultimately saying nothing.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday June 17 2022, @02:37AM (4 children)
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 17 2022, @05:25PM (2 children)
That tired excuse? Do conservatives ever take responsibility? You push anti-human pro-rich ideology, so either you have faulty assumptions making you believe toxicity is good, or you're fine with being a fair but evil. The only reason to think you're on the spectrum, as are many users here, is that you've had things explained but you reject everything that doesn't support old school capitalism, and anything related to climate change. How would you describe someone that rejects reality in favor of rightwing economics? Or the insurrection on 1/6 that finally has proper charges against the main instigators? Please, do give a description of such a type of person!
(Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Saturday June 18 2022, @06:07AM (1 child)
Erm, even if that were true, so what? I'm not the one having trouble with alternate viewpoints. A glaring example of this failure is that you have yet to display any morality in your above post, much less a morality superior to the alleged anti-human, pro-rich ideology.
Similarly, a flat Earther has explained things, but I still reject everything that doesn't support old school round Earthism. I must be on the spectrum!
The act of explanation doesn't make the explanation acceptable. You need more than that. Someone who lies on the rational end of the spectrum will reject irrational, dumbass explanations as standard procedure.
I'd start by first finding someone who does that. I haven't done so it's quite irrelevant to our discussion. First, I'll just note here that my economics is not rightwing economics. It is merely economics. Second, people who attack "old school capitalism" fail economics hard. Nowhere else can something succeed for centuries - building many awesome developed world societies, for example - and still get treated as if it were an utter failure.
I see you're self-signaling that you're an idiot. Wasn't Trump supposed to be THE main instigator in your narrative? And so far, nobody has issued charges against him. "Finally" hasn't happened yet!
I wager this is a situation where a glance in the mirror would reveal that type of person to you. I find it interesting how tu quoque works so well in situations like this. There's just an amazing number of people who brazenly display the flaws they claim in others.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 19 2022, @09:00PM
No u B^)
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday June 18 2022, @03:31AM
AC's not treating you like you're mentally ill, Hallow. That would give you an *excuse.*
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...