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posted by martyb on Sunday November 23 2014, @09:22AM   Printer-friendly
from the prefer-to-own-an-automobile dept.

Jerry Hirsch writes in the LA Times that personal transportation is on the cusp of its greatest transformation since the advent of the internal combustion engine. For a century, cars have been symbols of freedom and status but according to Hirsch, passengers of the future may well view vehicles as just another form of public transportation, to be purchased by the trip or in a subscription. Buying sexy, fast cars for garages could evolve into buying seat-miles in appliance-like pods, piloted by robots, parked in public stalls. "There will come a time when driving the car is like riding the horse," says futurist Peter Schwartz. "Some people will still like to do it, but most of us won't." People still will want to own vehicles for various needs, says James Lentz, chief executive of Toyota's North American operations. They might live in a rural area and travel long distances daily. They might have a big family to haul around. They might own a business that requires transporting supplies. "You will still have people who have the passion for driving the cars and feeling the road," says Lentz. "There may be times when they want the cars to drive them, but they won't be buying autonomous-only cars."

One vision of the future is already playing out in Grenoble, France, where residents can rent from a fleet of 70 pod-like Toyota i-Road and Coms electric cars for short city trips. "It is a sharing program like what you see in Portland [Oregon] with bicycles," says Lentz. Drivers can check out and return the cars at various charging points. Through a subscription, they pay the equivalent of $3.75 for 30 minutes. Because the vehicles are so small, it's easy to build out their parking and charging infrastructure. Skeptics should consider the cynicism that greeted the horseless carriage more than a century ago, says Adam Jonas who adds that fully autonomous vehicles will be here far sooner than the market thinks (PDF). Then, Jonas says, skeptics asked: "Why would any rational person want to replace the assuredness of that hot horse body trustily pulling your comfortable carriage with an unreliable, oil-spurting heap of gears, belts and chains?"

 
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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday November 23 2014, @11:28PM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Sunday November 23 2014, @11:28PM (#119245) Journal

    Clinging was a joke I used to trigger your comment.

    1. These changes will take at least 2-4 decades.
    2. The autonomous car can be your car even outside of urban core cities. Yes, even in states like Iowa, Oklahoma, Texas, Florida, Alabama, Alaska, etc. It will be cheaper to rent than to own and pay insurance. For commuting to work, you can have a car scheduled to arrive at the same place and same time every day. Time spent waiting for a car to arrive in situations like shopping should typically be less than 5 minutes, but whatever time is wasted will be made up by the low cost and the ability to do other things in the car.
    3. Urbanization is increasing.

    Growth in Urban Population Outpaces Rest of Nation, Census Bureau Reports [census.gov]

    The nation's urban population increased by 12.1 percent from 2000 to 2010, outpacing the nation's overall growth rate of 9.7 percent for the same period, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. The Census Bureau released the new list of urban areas today based on 2010 Census results.

    Urban areas — defined as densely developed residential, commercial and other nonresidential areas -- now account for 80.7 percent of the U.S. population, up from 79.0 percent in 2000. Although the rural population -- the population in any areas outside of those classified as “urban” — grew by a modest amount from 2000 to 2010, it continued to decline as a percentage of the national population.

    The Census Bureau's urban areas represent densely developed territory and encompass residential, commercial, and other nonresidential urban land uses. The Census Bureau identifies two types of urban areas: “urbanized areas” of 50,000 or more people and “urban clusters” of at least 2,500 and less than 50,000 people. “Rural” encompasses all population, housing and territory not included within an urban area.

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  • (Score: 2) by urza9814 on Tuesday November 25 2014, @07:00PM

    by urza9814 (3954) on Tuesday November 25 2014, @07:00PM (#119888) Journal

    For commuting to work, you can have a car scheduled to arrive at the same place and same time every day.

    ...which brings up an interesting question: What if you're running late?

    Takes me 30 minutes to get to work. If I'm having a really good day, I might arrive a bit before 7. If I'm running really late, I might arrive a bit before 9. If I'm not outside immediately at 6:30, does the car leave to go pick up someone else? Would I need to reserve and pay for three hours of use every morning even though I only need to go 12 miles? Or do I just get billed extra on the days I'm running late? Or do I just pay per mile, because if they have enough it doesn't matter if it's waiting in my parking lot or theirs?

    Maybe integrate it with my home automation system so it can know when I get out of the shower or something...?