Now China wants to censor online comments:
The new changes affect Provisions on the Management of Internet Post Comments Services, a regulation that first came into effect in 2017. Five years later, the Cyberspace Administration wants to bring it up to date.
"The proposed revisions primarily update the current version of the comment rules to bring them into line with the language and policies of more recent authority, such as new laws on the protection of personal information, data security, and general content regulations," says Jeremy Daum, a senior fellow at Yale Law School's Paul Tsai China Center.
[...] But recently, there have been several awkward cases where comments under government Weibo accounts went rogue, pointing out government lies or rejecting the official narrative. That could be what has prompted the regulator's proposed update.
Chinese social platforms are currently on the front lines of censorship work, often actively removing posts before the government and other users can even see them. ByteDance famously employs thousands of content reviewers, who make up the largest number of employees at the company. Other companies outsource the task to "censorship-for-hire" firms, including one owned by China's party mouthpiece People's Daily. The platforms are frequently punished for letting things slip.
Beijing is constantly refining its social media control, mending loopholes and introducing new restrictions. But the vagueness of the latest revisions makes people worry that the government may ignore practical challenges. [...] The tricky question is, no one knows if the government intends to enforce this immediately.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Opportunist on Tuesday June 21 2022, @02:00PM (21 children)
They will have social media.
In its final incarnation, you will need a personalized account with the social media site, and your account will be tied to your social credit (which will also be visible, for shaming purposes and of course to ensure that people don't want to associate with you). And it will be a communist utopia, censorship will be totally absent, because people already self-censor the living shit out of everything they say because they fear for their social credit.
As a neat side effect, you get to find all the "incorrigible deviants" who'd still dare to defy the party line, for free.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday June 21 2022, @02:40PM (4 children)
Sorry, I don't buy unicorns online. My take is that we're already seeing the failure mode of such a scheme - the massive number of people required to police it even with substantial automation. Even China will run out of cheap labor.
(Score: 4, Touché) by Opportunist on Tuesday June 21 2022, @04:28PM (3 children)
It's not necessary to policy that. Just have the other users policy it. It's Web 2.0, surveillance state version. Instead of "you make the content, we make the profit", it's now "you do the surveillance and get social credit for it".
Just learn from the best [wikipedia.org]. Install "volunteers" who will do the work for you, in exchange for being considered good citizens. It's gonna work like a charm, trust me.
(Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @02:23AM (1 child)
Link broken - I think you meant here: Texas abortion ban turns citizens into "bounty hunters" [cbsnews.com].
(Score: 2) by Opportunist on Wednesday June 22 2022, @02:40AM
Like I said, learn from the best.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday June 22 2022, @02:55AM
China has been at that level decades ago. They had to abandon that in order to survive. Now, my take is that it's too late for them to go back.
(Score: 2) by pkrasimirov on Tuesday June 21 2022, @02:47PM
North Korea 2.0 pre-release 22
(Score: 4, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday June 21 2022, @03:38PM
Have they tried Truth Social? You get censored over there REAL quick so the tools must be awesome!
(Score: 5, Insightful) by mhajicek on Tuesday June 21 2022, @04:07PM (10 children)
Authoritarian, yes. Communist, no. Maybe look up what the word means.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 0, Troll) by NPC-131072 on Tuesday June 21 2022, @04:14PM (6 children)
Hello fren,
Conservatives refuse to believe historical Communist regimes were, also, not real Communism. Stupid Conservatives!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by FatPhil on Tuesday June 21 2022, @04:52PM (5 children)
Original poster claimed (1): (R => A) ^ (R => C)
Retort said (2): (R => A) ^ (R =/> C)
By referring to the existence of (R ^ C) states, you implied that (3): (R ^ C) => (R => C)
Mussolini's Italy had R and had A, but it had F not C, and therefore proves (1) and (3) to be wrong.
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: -1, Troll) by NPC-131072 on Tuesday June 21 2022, @05:06PM (4 children)
Hello fren,
I am a good person, I just want everyone to be equal. [nytimes.com]
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday June 21 2022, @05:19PM (3 children)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 0, Troll) by NPC-131072 on Tuesday June 21 2022, @11:37PM (2 children)
My Fren,
Without authoritarianism there would be no exploitation, oppression or justification for the concept of Revolutionary Communism. We don't have examples because real Communism has never been tried. [wikipedia.org]
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @01:17AM (1 child)
Yiss, why cunt we jus let peeples agree to contracts and let le fwee mawkets sort it out? Totally worked out great in the past, you know how sweet it is to be a slaver? /puke
(Score: -1, Troll) by NPC-131072 on Wednesday June 22 2022, @01:25AM
Hello Fren,
Do you ever feel... [spectatorworld.com]
(Score: 0, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @10:18PM (1 child)
REAL Communism has never been tried. Granted, all so-called communist countries in history have been repressive, authoritarian, murderous hellholes, but they only stain Communism's good name.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @02:26AM
Therefore.... FASCISM! Hai!
(Score: 2) by Opportunist on Wednesday June 22 2022, @02:44AM
That was a jab on the old "once we REALLY have communism, we won't have any need for KGB/Stasi/Securitate anymore" adage of the time. Yes, that was a real thing back in the days: "Sure, today we still need (insert internal security organization) because there is still internal enemies of the state, but once we have REAL communism, this will no longer be necessary".
The joke this launched was "Will we really not need the KGB anymore when we finally have Communism?" "Yes, of course. People will have learned to arrest themselves by then".
(Score: 5, Insightful) by captain normal on Tuesday June 21 2022, @06:33PM (1 child)
"..communist utopia, censorship will be totally absent, because people already self-censor the living shit out of everything they say because they fear for their social credit."
Substitute "corporate utopia" for "communist utopia" and I really can't see much difference.
When life isn't going right, go left.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday June 21 2022, @08:37PM
Yeah, I'm sure organizing a coup on fucking Twitter would go super great for folks in China!
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @08:03PM
FTFY
Let's not confuse left wing authoritarianism and right wing authoritarianism again, shalln't we? We all need the little shitstains to do the busywork. 'K thanks.