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Journal by Runaway1956

The shooter in Buffalo who killed ten, was wearing body armor. To be specific, he was wearing a plate carrier, with hard armor inside the carrier. I've not seen specifics, but those carriers will hold steel plate, ceramic plate, or any other plate you choose to stick in there. Aluminum, titanium, cardboard, oak - anything that can be stuffed into the sleeves, and that you are willing to test.

New York's legislators decided to outlaw body armor. Except, they outlawed soft body armor.

New body armor rules in NY miss vest worn by Buffalo killer
A new law barring sales of bullet-resistant vests to most civilians in New York doesn't cover the type of armor worn by the gunman who killed 10 people at a Buffalo supermarket

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — New York’s new law barring sales of bullet-resistant vests to most civilians doesn't cover the type of armor worn by the gunman who killed 10 people at a Buffalo supermarket, a gap that could limit its effectiveness in deterring future military-style assaults.

During the May 14 attack, Payton Gendron wore a steel-plated vest, an armor strong enough to stop a handgun round fired by a store security guard who tried to halt Gendron's rampage.

A law hastily enacted by state lawmakers after the attack restricts sales of vests defined as “bullet-resistant soft body armor.”

https://www.wfmz.com/news/new-body-armor-rules-in-ny-miss-vest-worn-by-buffalo-killer/article_7cd0c048-7d53-548b-a3d9-91cb45513bcb.html

https://www.syracuse.com/state/2022/06/new-body-armor-rules-in-ny-miss-vest-worn-by-buffalo-killer.html

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/20/1106192556/new-body-armor-rules-in-new-york-miss-the-vest-worn-by-the-buffalo-killer

And, that is why we don't need progressives writing laws about guns, or anything else. People who don't even know what a woman is can't be trusted to know any damned thing about anything.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @07:44PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @07:44PM (#1255021)

    Backpacks
    Bicycle helmets
    Briefcases
    Jackets for children
    Glass
    School doors
    Batteries
    Power plants
    Underpants
    Logic

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday June 22 2022, @12:30AM (5 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 22 2022, @12:30AM (#1255141) Journal

      Why would underpants need to be bulletproof?

      Once logic was TTL, but alas now we have no more of that logic widely used.

      --
      Why is it that when I hold a stick, everyone begins to look like a pinata?
      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @08:14AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @08:14AM (#1255284)

        Why would underpants need to be bulletproof?

        Oh, DannyB, you seem to be ignorant of the Way of the Ammosexual. Accidental discharge is a constant danger. Cue the "I Just Fucking Shot Myself" guy. You know, it think that guy might be the actual Runaway1956, or at least a reasonable facsimile.

        (Note: being ignorant of such nitrocellulose powered perversion is probably a good thing.)

        • (Score: 2, Funny) by khallow on Wednesday June 22 2022, @11:31AM (1 child)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 22 2022, @11:31AM (#1255319) Journal
          Oh gosh, it's the hoplopuritans. Different strokes for different folks!
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 23 2022, @07:21AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 23 2022, @07:21AM (#1255538)

            Sounds like khallow would like to play! Gets awful lonely during those long knights in Yellowstone!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @05:01PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @05:01PM (#1255399)

        You attack the soft target.

        • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday June 23 2022, @08:38PM

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 23 2022, @08:38PM (#1255675) Journal

          Sometimes that target might be a hard target. And it could accidentally discharge.

          --
          Why is it that when I hold a stick, everyone begins to look like a pinata?
  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday June 21 2022, @09:17PM (13 children)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday June 21 2022, @09:17PM (#1255067) Journal

    Personally, I'm opposed to any bans on purely defensive equipment.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @09:52PM (10 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @09:52PM (#1255078)

      That surely makes someone want to fasten a dozen bullet-proof vests on you, and throw you in a lake.

      • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @10:24PM (8 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @10:24PM (#1255092)

        Anyone that reads this site will quickly conclude that conservatives are the violence loving terrorists. Plenty of insults get tossed around, but even aristarchus rarely wishes harm on others. Conservatives seem to have no problem leveling death threats, everyone should pay attention.

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @11:13PM (7 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 21 2022, @11:13PM (#1255111)

          My objection is this:

          can't be trusted to know any damned thing about anything.

          Because if anyone can't be trusted to know any damned thing, it is Runaway1956. He had no idea what the population of China is, he had no idea where Estonia (and FatPhil) were, and clearly he does not understand the difference between a semi-automatic bullet-proof vest, and a full-auto vest. Likely it was the distinction between "soft" and "hard" that got him thinking about Trans-sexual penii again. Runaway is an ignorant moron. He is also in favor of insult weapons, and silencers, and lodging false accusations to get users banned from SoylentNews. Can't be trusted, and can't trust himself 'cause of Dunning-Kreuger.

          aristarchus

          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @05:39AM (6 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @05:39AM (#1255235)

            I had to check that aristarchus got his mandated spam mod, since he is also modded up for being so reasonable. Actually, the whole permaban thing makes no sense to me.

            • (Score: 4, Interesting) by janrinok on Wednesday June 22 2022, @07:15AM (5 children)

              by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 22 2022, @07:15AM (#1255258) Journal

              Of course it doesn't make sense to you, 'unionrep', because you are a sock puppet of the aforementioned aristarchus. You cannot hide by posting as AC when you have already compromised yourself.

              • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @08:17AM (4 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @08:17AM (#1255287)

                Who the fuck is "unionrep"? Is janrinok seeing things again, things that are not there? Does he think that all ACs are now covert aristarchuses? And he is not even aware of the 1012 remaining Runsaway sockpuppets. So sad. Pathetic. Makes me want to cry for him.

                • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @12:33PM (3 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @12:33PM (#1255330)

                  AC are now all ari's, unionrep is probably a reference to irc chatter, but cannot be bothered reading te logs to find out. the whole history of SN was inevitable, the revolutionary types would settle in to a ready made echo chamber.

                  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by janrinok on Wednesday June 22 2022, @12:37PM (2 children)

                    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 22 2022, @12:37PM (#1255333) Journal
                    'unionrep' is a sock puppet account that we have already closed down. We knew exactly who it was.
                    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @09:06PM (1 child)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @09:06PM (#1255455)

                      So, who was it, janrinok? Let it all hang out, tell us everything. Unless you are afraid, afraid of confirming what many who have been accused of being Ari already know: Jan's Aridar is broken.

                      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 23 2022, @07:26AM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 23 2022, @07:26AM (#1255539)

                        You mean, we will never really know who 'unionrep' really was, other than Amazon instructed SN admins that he be deep-sixed? I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night, as alive as you and me.

                        "The copper bosses killed you, Joe,
                        They shot you, Joe," says I.
                        "Takes more than guns to kill a man,"
                        Says Joe, "I didn't die,"
                        Says Joe, "I didn't die."

                        And standing there as big as life
                        And smiling with his eyes
                        Says Joe, "What they forgot to kill(3)
                        Went on to organize,
                        Went on to organize."

                        Joe Hill ain't dead, he says to me,
                        Joe Hill ain't never died.
                        Where working men are out on strike,
                        Joe Hill is at their side.
                        Joe Hill is at their side.

                        "From San Diego up to Maine,
                        In every mine and mill,
                        Where workers strike and organize,"
                        Says he, You'll find Joe Hill,(4)
                        Says he, You'll find Joe Hill,(4)

                        I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night,
                        Alive as you or me
                        Says I, "But Joe, you're ten years dead,"
                        "I never died," says he
                        "I never died," says he

                        This song was originally posted on protestsonglyrics.net

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 23 2022, @07:23PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 23 2022, @07:23PM (#1255654)

        Jeebers are you sensitive! Okay, okay, change that to "fasten a dozen AR-15 rifles to you..."

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by NPC-131072 on Tuesday June 21 2022, @11:47PM (1 child)

      by NPC-131072 (7144) on Tuesday June 21 2022, @11:47PM (#1255129) Journal

      Is it still defense when a mass shooter wears armor or is it determined by the actions of individuals? [inquirer.com]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @01:11AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @01:11AM (#1255159)

        I'm slightly curious what you are talkung about, but knowing you are a troll account I prefer not to click your links.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @01:42AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 22 2022, @01:42AM (#1255172)

    Here, try these instead. There is ammosexual content, including revolution and 1776 fetishes.

    ICFI/SEP/IWA-RFC: New York Times series The Ransom absolves capitalism for Haiti’s oppression [wsws.org] - Video shows Uvalde, Texas, police were armed and on scene within 9 minutes of gunman entering school [wsws.org]

    Also Workers Struggles: The Americas [wsws.org], including:
    Chicago-area operating engineers strike rock quarries
    Group of New Jersey Amazon Flex drivers stage protest
    Boston Harbor container terminal shut down after truck driver struck and killed at site

    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday June 22 2022, @02:34PM (2 children)

      by Freeman (732) on Wednesday June 22 2022, @02:34PM (#1255356) Journal

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/uvalde-mayor-calls-texas-senate-hearing-on-school-shooting-e2-80-98bozo-the-clown-show-e2-80-99/ar-AAYJY71 [msn.com]

      In response, several senators called for the on-scene commander, Uvalde Independent School District Police Chief Pete Arredondo to be fired and questioned whether he should be allowed to retain a law license. McCraw and a mass shooting expert testified that Arredondo’s handling of the May 24 shooting at Robb Elementary School cost lives.

      In Uvalde, Mayor Don McLaughlin bristled at the news coming from the Senate hearing calling it a meeting the “Bozo the Clown show.” But McLaughlin was mostly upset with McCraw, stating that the DPS chief was releasing inaccurate information.

      https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2022/06/21/watch-live-texas-senate-holds-uvalde-hearings-in-wake-of-latest-news-on-police-response/ [dallasnews.com]

      New timeline details state’s view that response to Uvalde shooting was an ‘abject failure’
      Texas DPS chief says, “It should have never happened that way. … It set our profession back a decade.”
      [...]
      corroborating reports indicating that numerous police were inside the school within minutes of the first 911 calls.
      [...]
      Attention continued to be focused Tuesday on Uvalde Independent School District Chief Pete Arredondo, who kept police at bay for more than 70 minutes while the 18-year-old shooter remained barricaded in a classroom with children and teachers.
      [...]
      At 11:28 a.m. and 25 seconds, the shooter crashed a truck into a ditch adjacent to Robb Elementary School. Within one minute, a teacher who had propped a western door to the school open with a rock called 911. She removed the rock and went inside the school.

      The shooter then fired four shots at two males in the direction of a Hillcrest Memorial Funeral Home directly north of the school. Seconds later, a police patrol car arrived at the scene driving quickly toward a person the officer believed to be the shooter, but was actually a teacher near the south entrance of the school.

      Outside the school, the shooter then fired more than 20 times into a classroom with bullets that penetrated through the walls of the classroom, injuring one teacher and a student in room 109. Here’s an updated timeline of subsequent events from DPS:

      11:33 a.m.: The shooter entered the school through a door that should have automatically locked when closed, but was set to stay open. Investigation after the shooting found a second outside door had also been left unlocked in a similar manner.

      Within 30 seconds, the shooter entered classrooms 111 and 112, firing about 100 shots. By three seconds after 11:36 a.m., 11 officers were on the scene, including Arredondo, the Uvalde schools’ chief.

      Yes, nut job had serious issues. But, from the sounds of things, Law Enforcement did a horrible job.

      --
      Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday June 22 2022, @02:44PM (1 child)

        by Freeman (732) on Wednesday June 22 2022, @02:44PM (#1255359) Journal

        I must have forgotten a closing quote or something, because that post looks weird. XD

        --
        Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 23 2022, @04:17PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 23 2022, @04:17PM (#1255615)

          It's OK. I think we all know you are just a little...ummm...different.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 23 2022, @10:35PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 23 2022, @10:35PM (#1255691)

    And just today the Runaway Supreme Court apparently decided there is a Constitutional right to carry a firearm for self-defence against Supreme Court Justices trying to take away established human rights. Things may get interesting. Even Dodge had laws against carrying weapons.

    Oh, and Alito is a legal moron. There is no traditional right to an abortion? Not part of the American culture? You know what else is unAmerican? A six-vote Catholic majority on the Supreme Court of the United States!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 27 2022, @07:09PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 27 2022, @07:09PM (#1256564)

      Yeah, the KKK had a problem with "papists", as they called them. Is this one of those infamous dog whistle moments?

      As for Dodge, and the unmanaged territories, those were actually covered in the firearms judgement which you would have known, if you'd read it.

  • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 23 2022, @11:13PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 23 2022, @11:13PM (#1255696)

    Our resident fascist is having trouble coping with Trump finally getting the media attention he deserves while Fox is being sued for billions. When your worldview comes crashing down, and all your critics are proven right, there is only one option left.

    Sneeeeeeeed

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 23 2022, @11:56PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 23 2022, @11:56PM (#1255705)

      Criiiinnnge

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