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posted by LaminatorX on Monday November 24 2014, @06:05AM   Printer-friendly
from the life-skills dept.

Kate Briquelet reports in the NY Post that Principal Mark Federman of East Side Community HS has invited the New York Civil Liberties Union to give a two-day training session to 450 students on interacting with police. “We’re not going to candy-coat things — we have a problem in our city that’s affecting young men of color and all of our students,” says Federman. “It’s not about the police being bad. This isn’t anti-police as much as it’s pro-young people . . . It’s about what to do when kids are put in a position where they feel powerless and uncomfortable.” The hourlong workshops — held in small classroom sessions during advisory periods — focused on the NYPD’s stop-and-frisk program and how to exercise Fourth Amendment rights when being stopped and questioned in a car or at home.

Some law-enforcement experts say the NYCLU is going beyond civics lessons and doling out criminal-defense advice. “It’s unlikely that a high school student would come away with any other conclusion than the police are a fearful group to be avoided at all costs,” says Eugene O’Donnell, a former police officer and professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. NYCLU representatives told kids to be polite and to keep their hands out of their pockets. But they also told students they don’t have to show ID or consent to searches, that it’s best to remain silent, and how to file a complaint against an officer. Candis Tolliver, NYCLU’s associate director for advocacy, says was the first time she trained an entire high school. “This is not about teaching kids how to get away with a crime or being disrespectful. This is about making sure both sides are walking away from the situation safe and in control.”

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 24 2014, @05:57PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 24 2014, @05:57PM (#119487)

    If you behave like a criminal, you're going to be treated like one. Comply with the officer courteously and get over it. If you did nothing wrong you'll be on your way. If you act like a smart ass you're going to give suspicions to them and get deeper into trouble. They are there for a reason, or would you rather they didn't exist and mob rule would be the law? In that case move back to some backwards country where you belong.

  • (Score: 1) by srobert on Monday November 24 2014, @06:40PM

    by srobert (4803) on Monday November 24 2014, @06:40PM (#119503)

    You know what else is there for a reason? The Bill of Rights. In particular, the 4th amendment. If we acquiesce to having it violated out of fear, then we've already fallen down the slippery slope to fascism.

    • (Score: 1) by srobert on Monday November 24 2014, @06:48PM

      by srobert (4803) on Monday November 24 2014, @06:48PM (#119507)

      Oops. Sorry I was mistaken. I looked up the 4th amendment and it reads this way:

      "The right of white people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

      That's funny I never noticed that it specified white people. But it makes sense that that is what the founding fathers must have intended.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 24 2014, @06:42PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 24 2014, @06:42PM (#119504)

    Thats the most stupid comment I have ever heard. They work for us. We pay them. You must be a cop !

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 24 2014, @06:55PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 24 2014, @06:55PM (#119512)

      Nope, but I've seen a lot. Make trouble and you're only making trouble for yourself. Only the troublemakers will have cynical comments about this.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 24 2014, @08:31PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 24 2014, @08:31PM (#119547)

      They work for you, you pay their wages, and you want to waste their time instead of letting them do their job as quick as possible? How would you like it if every person you encounter at your job wasted your time? Hope you get paid by the hour with no productivity quotas.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 24 2014, @09:01PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 24 2014, @09:01PM (#119553)

        If my primary responsibility at my job was to enforce the law and to uphold the Constitution and instead I constantly broke the law and violated the Constitution, I would expect to get called on that.

        Your life is obviously one characterized by cluelessness and White Privilege. [wikipedia.org]

        The term denotes both obvious and less obvious passive advantages that white persons may not recognize they have, which distinguishes it from overt bias or prejudice.
        These include cultural affirmations of one's own worth; presumed greater social status; and freedom to move, buy, work, play, and speak freely.

        The opposite of that is being rousted routinely while walking on a public street and doing nothing wrong.

        -- gewg_

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 24 2014, @09:36PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 24 2014, @09:36PM (#119561)

          You're obviously the one the cops are looking for.