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(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 05 2022, @12:25AM (22 children)
Just Runaway's attempt at distraction from today's massacre.
(Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 05 2022, @03:50AM (21 children)
Massacre? There are worse car accidents.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 05 2022, @06:33AM
Don’t disturb the democrat’s circles.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 05 2022, @07:02AM (6 children)
The key word there being "accident."
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday July 05 2022, @03:32PM (5 children)
When's the last time you saw a traffic accident that killed SIXTY people? [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday July 05 2022, @05:25PM (3 children)
I mean, it's not the USA, but things happen.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/09/americas/mexico-road-accident-intl-hnk/index.html [cnn.com]
https://report.az/en/other-countries/traffic-accident-in-western-uganda-kills-32-people/ [report.az]
Ah, then I found this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_traffic_collisions_(2000%E2%80%93present) [wikipedia.org]
Though, perhaps this is a better metric: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate [wikipedia.org]
Poor countries generally fare much worse with regards to car crashes. Not due to sheer number of deaths, but likelihood of dying in said car crash.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 5, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday July 05 2022, @05:37PM (2 children)
If you need to cherry pick from frikken' AFGHANISTAN then you might as well just say "never!"
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday July 05 2022, @07:48PM (1 child)
Apparently, you were going for the outrage/hype/sensationalism routine. So, you didn't want an actual answer. Could have just said so to begin with. The answer is so far (not that you care), not this year (at least as far as I could find). Disturbingly, in 2017, "219 were killed" in Pakistan when a tanker exploded. Due to onlookers having gathered around it to collect the fuel. A number of the deadliest traffic accidents included a fuel tanker. Serious accidents involving various types of Bus were also fairly common in the list.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 4, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday July 05 2022, @08:04PM
People on foot gathering gas when it gets ignited isn't even a traffic accident!
(Score: 2) by dalek on Wednesday July 06 2022, @12:00AM
While I understand your point, I do have two examples for you. One is the 2017 Westminster terrorist attack [wikipedia.org] in London. The attacker used a car to run people over, killing five other people and injuring nearly 50. The body count was certainly comparable to a mass shooting. There was a similar number of deaths and injuries when an attacker ran people over with a car at the Waukesha, Wisconsin Christmas parade [wikipedia.org] last year. There weren't as many deaths as the Las Vegas shooting, but the number of people injured or killed in both attacks was worse than many mass shootings.
The Las Vegas shooting was so deadly because the shooter had an extended period of time to almost continuously fire bullets into a very large crowd. It's an anomaly, even for mass shootings. While I would prefer that we had zero mass shootings, I am thankful that the Las Vegas attack is an anomaly in terms of the death and injury toll. But motor vehicles can certainly inflict injuries and deaths that are comparable to many mass shootings.
None of this is intended to oppose gun control, but I wanted to provide an answer to your question.
EXTERMINATE
(Score: 2, Insightful) by DannyB on Tuesday July 05 2022, @06:04PM (12 children)
We try to prevent car accidents.
We do not try to prevent crazy people with firearms from causing massacres.
Would a Dyson sphere [soylentnews.org] actually work?
(Score: 1, Redundant) by Freeman on Tuesday July 05 2022, @07:55PM (9 children)
In the event that everyone was armed, there would be fewer massacres.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/massacre [merriam-webster.com]
I mean, you want fewer massacres, right?
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday July 05 2022, @08:08PM (5 children)
New rule for society: shoot anyone who shoots someone!
It is thus commanded.
Would a Dyson sphere [soylentnews.org] actually work?
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday July 05 2022, @08:17PM (4 children)
What do you expect Law Enforcement Officers to actually do?
Taze someone?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/police-killed-1000-people-tasers-since-2000 [pbs.org]
Also:
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/27/729922975/despite-widespread-use-police-rate-tasers-as-less-effective-than-believed [npr.org]
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Tuesday July 05 2022, @08:28PM (3 children)
I expect the legislature to make guns "well regulated." Just like automobiles.
Stable law abiding adults should be able to have a gun. Crazy unstable people should not. Especially criminals.
There are very many of us who have no criminal record, no arrests, no altercations. Who are able to de-escalate things instead of escalate them. There are plenty of people who should be able to have guns. Ordinary, dull, law abiding people without Rambo fantasies who have self control. Are not addicted nor abuse drugs nor alcohol.
The people who should not are already documented in the system.
Now maybe there are some people who should not have guns, but are unknown to the system. My proposal is imperfect. But I'm open to ideas for improvement.
Would a Dyson sphere [soylentnews.org] actually work?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Freeman on Tuesday July 05 2022, @10:33PM (2 children)
Right, because it's not illegal for Criminals to own guns. Hint: It's a crime for a convicted felon to own a gun. We're talking about all felonies and "misdemeanors that include over 1 year of jail time". Prohibition sure worked out for the USA and the war on drugs sure is going strong. Maybe the ATF should change their name and only focus on illegal firearms / etc. kinds of things.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday July 07 2022, @02:01PM
Okay, here is a new plan.
Make it legally required for criminals to own guns.
Since criminals won't obey laws, they won't get any guns.
Problem solved.
Would a Dyson sphere [soylentnews.org] actually work?
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday July 07 2022, @05:46PM
Prohibition didn't allow non-criminal adults to go buy booze.
Your analogy is drastically flawed.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 07 2022, @04:51PM
Well this story about Texas kind of shines a light on their hypocrisy, and doesn't reflect well on the whole more guns means less crime.
https://abc13.com/houston-crime-lucky-evening-food-store-caught-in-south-braeswood/12024958/ [abc13.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 08 2022, @01:37AM (1 child)
Not to put too fine a point on this but right now we have more guns than people in the USA. When is the "peace dividend" from this surplus of guns going to be finally realized?
Indeed, I---and at least a few others, apparently---would like fewer massacres. I just don't think adding more guns to the mix is the answer to our current problem.
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday July 12 2022, @01:57AM
There are probably enough guns. The problem is, who is holding the guns? You want the guns in the hands of law abiding citizens, instead of criminals.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 06 2022, @12:12AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle-ramming_attack [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_stabbing [wikipedia.org]
Crazy people do pretty good massacres without using firearms.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday July 10 2022, @01:44PM
Which is false in most places. For the really obvious rebuttal, why aren't all these shooters that you've complained about for the past few months still out on the streets shooting people? Maybe a few would have gotten the murder thing out of their system after a few massacres, but my take is a good portion probably would be still shooting people. What happened is that US society did indeed prevent said crazy people from causing massacres through a variety of obvious mechanisms like law enforcement response and jails that you continue to refuse to acknowledge.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 05 2022, @12:39AM (3 children)
Get Eric Idle to read the script, with feeling!
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday July 05 2022, @03:05AM (2 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 05 2022, @04:18AM
I haven't. Is it worth the time or the effort?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 05 2022, @04:33AM
Yes, about 15 seconds is all I could stand, Ben Stein is more exciting in those Clear eyes commercials
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 05 2022, @06:03AM (3 children)
No interest in watching Runaway being given the business by his Russian master. Haven't sex tapes fallen out of favor, since there is no "tape" any more? Liked that janrinok played a "supporting" role, however.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 05 2022, @08:14AM (2 children)
Is this the video where Runaway gets spanked in his journal, again, and gets good and spanked, over and over? Asking for a friend.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday July 06 2022, @03:41AM (1 child)
No. Spankings are for good girls, not bad boys :)
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 06 2022, @03:10PM
Amen! Good girls deserve to be treated right. ;)
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 05 2022, @03:03PM
A little alarmist, here and there, and leaps to a conclusion or two, but a good survey of some major concerns.
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 06 2022, @07:18AM
https://www.thewrap.com/joe-rogan-refused-donald-trump-podcast-interview/ [thewrap.com]
Seems like they have something in common, and they both believe anything people tell them. Would also explain all the free time joe runsaway has to make shitpost journals.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 08 2022, @09:11PM
- "What's It Gonna Take?" - Van Morrison (2022) [allmusic.com] left-wing review of this new album.
Times change. Funny how some become re-cast as right-wingers, when a few years ago they were just people. Funny how I made four down-modded posts a week ago, correcting the moderator soup-of-the-day, and got every dynamic IP banned. Imagine what's happening to Van Morrison... maybe he'll take a little pressure off of Joe Rogan.
Hey, where did we go
Days when the rains came?
Down in the hollow
Playing a new game
Laughing and a-running, hey, hey
Skipping and a-jumping
In the misty morning fog with
Our, our hearts a-thumping
And you, my brown-eyed girl
You, my brown-eyed girl