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Journal by khallow
Once more, we have journals about the alleged insurrection of January 6. My take on that is that even if you're a US poster, the US is a free country and thus, you are free to be idiots. I'm also free to tell you that.
But you miss the real story. I quite agree that Trump riled up a bunch of loyal supporters and pointed them at the Capitol. I quite agree that he and his lackeys then dragged their feet on defending the Capitol from a riot that he caused. Those are shitty moves, but genuine politics - meaning any supporter who put up with his shenanigans (he's done worse) to that point isn't going to be concerned about some more shenanigans. Maybe it even rises to the level of insurrection though I'd like to see more there than some impotent whining that Trump didn't sign a confession.
The nasty move is near instantly throwing those supporters under the bus. This is the real Trump. They did what Trump wanted them to do and now they're fucked without a word of encouragement or any other support from Trump. Same goes for the people who filed all those useless lawsuits.
He's over it.
Here, we have naked betrayal of his most loyal followers - rewarded for their efforts with prison time and huge fines. If Trump's critics can't run with that, then we need a new batch.
But you miss the real story. I quite agree that Trump riled up a bunch of loyal supporters and pointed them at the Capitol. I quite agree that he and his lackeys then dragged their feet on defending the Capitol from a riot that he caused. Those are shitty moves, but genuine politics - meaning any supporter who put up with his shenanigans (he's done worse) to that point isn't going to be concerned about some more shenanigans. Maybe it even rises to the level of insurrection though I'd like to see more there than some impotent whining that Trump didn't sign a confession.
The nasty move is near instantly throwing those supporters under the bus. This is the real Trump. They did what Trump wanted them to do and now they're fucked without a word of encouragement or any other support from Trump. Same goes for the people who filed all those useless lawsuits.
He's over it.
Here, we have naked betrayal of his most loyal followers - rewarded for their efforts with prison time and huge fines. If Trump's critics can't run with that, then we need a new batch.
One more on that January 6 protest
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Do not use if foil seal is broken.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @03:24PM (44 children)
One could only wish that you had just a bit more self-awareness.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @03:34PM (43 children)
No, he's right. Nobody has been convicted of insurrection, only of rioting and being a nuisance. Trump can be legally charged with incitement, nothing more, aside from all his regular corruption that's widely practiced by all, making it difficult to single him out without causing widespread collateral damage to congress
(Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday August 02 2022, @03:53PM (42 children)
Two people have been convicted of Seditious Conspiracy.
So now, of course, sedition no longer counts!
Georgia man affiliated with Oath Keepers becomes 2nd rioter convicted of seditious conspiracy [pbs.org]
(Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday August 02 2022, @03:55PM (41 children)
Hmmm....I wonder what the definition of "sedition" is?
Sedition - noun [merriam-webster.com]
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @04:14PM (28 children)
Heh, Not that you ever listen, but I already told you plea deals don't count. It just releases the prosecutor from having to prove anything.. very convenient. No insurrection has been proven in court so far. No evidence of such has been publicly released. Like with your Russiagate, you still only have hearsay from interested parties
I know you don't realize it, but your theatrics only help the republicans. Your party squandered another two years, well, not really, most, the important ones anyway, are well financed and will still be reelected.. Mission accomplished!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @04:31PM
Look, hookers and blow is not a bad platform.
I apologize for giggling at it, but I'm frustrated that the Libertarian Party doesn't take a 9A approach to abortion to go with their 9A plank of anti-vaxx bodily integrity, and instead gets lost in the marsh of the 10A. Strictly speaking, hookers and blow is a step in the right direction.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday August 02 2022, @05:33PM (9 children)
Or, they remember there was a fucking documentary crew filming them when they committed all their crimes and decided a plea deal would result in less time.
(Score: -1, Troll) by khallow on Tuesday August 02 2022, @06:18PM (8 children)
Hi, I'm here to tell you that you're being an idiot. Seditious conspiracy doesn't film well - it's not whacking people with a flagpole levels of obviousness. And if it were somehow that well documented, we'd have everyone plea bargaining not just two weak links.
Also consider that phrase you wrote "and decided a plea deal would result in less time". Seditious conspiracy is not the only crime where plea deals can result in less time, even if you admit to crimes you didn't do!
(Score: 4, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday August 02 2022, @06:42PM (7 children)
Sure bro, people on tape talking about their plans to prevent Congress from certifying the election is a super hard conspiracy conviction!
(Score: -1, Troll) by khallow on Tuesday August 02 2022, @07:41PM (6 children)
You keep whistling past that graveyard. It actually is hard because you need more than just talk.
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @08:01PM
Goal posts are heavy, your back ok?
(Score: 5, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday August 02 2022, @08:02PM (4 children)
Yeah, sure, it's not like a bunch of people verbally agreeing to a specific set of illegal plans is a conspiracy or anything!
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @09:01PM
Arguing with a five year old is so ridiculous. Yet we have large toddlers with access to guns and they have a tenuous grasp on reality. So. Fun.
(Score: 0, Interesting) by khallow on Wednesday August 03 2022, @03:17AM (2 children)
We'll see if they actually did that. There will be a trial, right?
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2022, @10:29PM (1 child)
What?? Do we look like Republicans or something?
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 08 2022, @05:21PM
Summertime in the USA yet for some reason conservative snowflakes are still around!
(Score: 3, Informative) by cmdrklarg on Tuesday August 02 2022, @06:08PM (16 children)
Whether they were convicted in court vs. taking a plea deal makes no difference; they are still considered convicted of a crime.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by khallow on Tuesday August 02 2022, @06:29PM (10 children)
A person would also be considered convicted if the police framed them by planting evidence. Merely being considered "convicted of a crime" is not that relevant legally when we have dysfunctional legal processes at play. Plea bargaining is presently one of those dysfunction processes.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @07:15PM (7 children)
Do you have any evidence that the police framed them in this case?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday August 02 2022, @07:45PM (6 children)
Nope, and I don't think that's an issue here.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2022, @07:35PM (5 children)
If you don't think that's an issue in this case then why did you mention it?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2022, @10:48PM (4 children)
The dictionary is your friend. Look up "hypothetical".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2022, @11:05PM (3 children)
Yes, I'm sure we all know the meaning of hypothetical, but that is not what khallow claimed. When pressed about people being convicted or taking plea deals, khallow suggested that some of these people were being "framed" by the police. This wreaks yet again of deflection. When I asked him if he had any evidence to support his accusation he said no. Again, this wreaks of khallow's standard playbook of deflection when cornered. Of course, if he does find any evidence that people were being framed by the police then he should put it forward so that we can all evaluate it on its merits.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday August 04 2022, @02:19AM (2 children)
Actually it is what I claimed. Reading comprehension is your friend.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 05 2022, @08:59AM (1 child)
hypothetically guilt of a crime is not proven in disfunctional legal process, just as insurrection cannot happen in disfunctional political processes. got it: US was always a bannana republic, not worthy of serious consideration.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday August 05 2022, @11:52AM
As has been noted, the defendant is just as convicted.
Maybe learn something next time rather than sputter non sequiturs?
(Score: 2) by Mykl on Thursday August 04 2022, @05:29AM (1 child)
I agree that plea bargaining in the US is rife with problems, but in functioning democracies we still see conviction rates of up to 95% without trials. This is because some cases are so open-and-shut that the felon has no advantage in taking the case to trial. For example, someone charged with car theft is likely to take a plea deal when there is CCTV footage of them stealing the car, their prints are all over the wheel, and the car was recovered from their property.
Taking a plea deal should be considered functionally equivalent to being found guilty in court (again, functioning democracies only - USA need not apply).
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday August 04 2022, @12:26PM
No and that's why.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday August 02 2022, @06:44PM (4 children)
Correct.
Except in the Bizarro World, where admitting to your crimes is actually evidence that you are innocent!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @10:29PM
It's not evidence, it doesn't prove the crime was committed. Plea deals are a fatal flaw of the legal system
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 03 2022, @04:17AM (2 children)
Nobody claimed that. With such logic fails in your toolbox, no wonder you're having so much trouble with this discussion. "Not evidence for" != "evidence against". Here's an example.
I have a car that is gray. Clearly, that isn't evidence for the guilt of Trump. So are we then to suppose that it is evidence for his innocence? Of course not!
So why then, is the observation that the US plea bargain process is seriously corrupt somehow actually evidence for innocence? I'll note that nobody has made that claim, well aside from you and maybe an AC. The rest of us understand the argument - namely that it's an argument making the case that a plea deal is not evidence of guilt for the crime in question because of the perverse incentive structure to plea guilty to whatever in order to avoid a worse fate.
Earlier, when this was discussed, Beryllium Sphere discussed [soylentnews.org] an example where an innocent person pleading innocent would spend more time in jail than if they plead guilty. From the linked story [blogspot.com]:
Defenders of the insurrection narrative have repeatedly made the mistake that criticism of the various bad assumptions made are somehow a defense of Trump. Instead, it's a defense of just law and process. This hubbub illustrates so many of the weaknesses and injustice of the US system, from Congressional investigations that do remarkably little even for political expedience to decades old institutional failings.
(Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday August 03 2022, @04:25PM (1 child)
You, personally, use plea deals as evidence of innocent all the damn time!
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by khallow on Thursday August 04 2022, @12:51AM
Here: [soylentnews.org]
In both cases, you insist something goes on all the time when it doesn't. In the first case, I have never used plea deals as evidence of innocence. That's just a profound misunderstanding on your side. The point I make is that a guilty plea is not evidence of guilt for a particular crime because the incentives can be set up so even a rational innocent people would plea guilty in order to avoid a more punitive court process. Even the guilty can plead guilty to crimes they didn't do in order to reduce punishment for crimes they did do. I think this happens a lot in US criminal trials.
On your second statement, it only took me a minute to see that I had never referred to myself in this entire discussion in the third person aside from this post. And well, I like how the post plays. So I find it interesting how you brought up an irrelevant complaint (and a silly insinuation that I was attempting to post anonymously) rather than good faith argument. I think that sort of shitty argument is the value you bring to the table. You're a great shill - sincere and vocal, but unintentionally sabotaging every argument you make with these profoundly bad fallacies and logic fails.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday August 02 2022, @06:34PM (10 children)
(Score: 5, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday August 02 2022, @06:49PM (8 children)
Coool, we're at the "sedition ain't that bad" part of the denial train.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @07:23PM
It was only a little bit of sedition. Nothing to worry about!</sarcasm>
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday August 02 2022, @07:46PM (6 children)
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @09:42PM (5 children)
From downplaying Republican insurrection to whataboutism? Think you skipped a few steps there boyo.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 03 2022, @12:34PM (4 children)
If you did that, then you probably should cut back on it in your diet. If I did that, then you probably should state the details rather than just another bad faith argument where I merely shrug because nobody other than you would know what you are referring to.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2022, @05:19PM (3 children)
* khallow employs bad faith argument, proceeds to comain about bad faith arguing.
Seriously hope you're a troll, would be very sad if you're doing all this as just your own self.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 03 2022, @05:39PM (2 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2022, @10:26PM (1 child)
That is what we all think about every one of your comments. Content free Fox News talking points, citations never included #hypocrite
(Score: 0, Redundant) by khallow on Thursday August 04 2022, @12:29AM
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @08:26PM
Great. Using Runaway as an expert witless.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @08:41PM
Definition of conspiracy
1 : the act of conspiring together
2a : an agreement among conspirators
b : a group of conspirators
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @04:13PM (2 children)
Spank Spank Spank! [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday August 02 2022, @06:35PM (1 child)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @09:45PM
With your *stellar* track record of recognizing reality let us just say, we're concerned about you.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @04:18PM (13 children)
You know, I'm starting to feel better about November. This isn't checkmate. It's not too late. Runaway called it by plugging Kanye West. The fascists are abandoning Trump, always the con artist. Momentum will be lost.
Who will be the next candidate für Führer des Christinreichs? Ted Cruz? Ron DeSantis? Greg Abbott?
One can hope this is the end of the Republican Party, so that a socialist alternative can occupy the second party spot and take the Democratic Party to task for the long years of pretending to be progressive while pursuing imperialism and austerity.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @04:45PM (4 children)
"take the Democratic Party to task for the long years of pretending to be progressive while pursuing imperialism and austerity."
Lolololol bOtH sIdEs
Oh wait.
You did it right. Good job!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @04:59PM (2 children)
Friendly reminder:
There is no "both sides".. DNC/GOP is one..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @05:07PM (1 child)
Yes but we need to figure out what is to be done, otherwise what is the point of calling attention to the uniparty?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @10:38PM
One reason is because so many people (over 98%) are in denial. Primal forces are very powerful, so maybe calling attention to anything is a waste
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @05:10PM
thanks!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @04:48PM
Murdoch says Dump Trump, use DeSantis as toilet paper [vanityfair.com].
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday August 02 2022, @05:30PM (2 children)
Just think: if half of the us were to vote third party, it would shake Washington to the core. There aren't many alternatives, but we need to push those alternatives. Even when the alternatives are silly, like Kanye West, we need to push them, because they threaten the uniparty, or the duopoly, or whatever we choose to call the "two party system".
Always vote third party or independent if possible. Even if you despise the third party, vote for them.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday August 02 2022, @05:50PM
I definitely agree that Runaway should vote third party!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2022, @10:40AM
Endless dissembling.
The only way to possibly interpret this signal from you is "I still haven't found mein Christreichsführer"
But it's not like I'm telling you to not prove me wrong. You could instead promote hookers and blow 2022.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday August 02 2022, @05:36PM (2 children)
My money is on DeSantis.
I'll put a $20 subscription on it if anyone wants to bet against me!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @06:23PM (1 child)
I won't bet against DeSantis being nominated, I would bet DeSantis will lose 2024 elections if he's nominated.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2022, @02:43AM
When Biden's term is finished, Pennywise the terror clown could win against any Democrat contenders.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday August 04 2022, @03:26PM
Well, we are the only ones who actually give a shit about the national debt!
Republicans SAY they do but every time they are in power they max out all the credit cards. And then the Dems pay them down.
Not sure how ending all the wars the Republicans start counts as imperialism but whatevs!
(Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @05:27PM (18 children)
" quite agree that Trump riled up a bunch of loyal supporters and pointed them at the Capitol. "
Trump knew many of these people were armed, because the Secret Service detail told him there were armed people trying to get in to his "speech" at The Ellipse. He ordered them to deactivate their metal detectors at the boundary and let them in, saying "they're not here for me." Other law enforcement agencies in the area confirmed the problem.
Trump riled up a bunch of loyal supporters he knew were armed and aimed them at the place where the peaceful transfer of power was in process, telling them to go fight.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @05:47PM (17 children)
Woah now, have you forgotten how much bullshit can be woven into such simple facts? Don't forget the bullshit!! The coup must go unpunished and we should forget it ever happened /sarcasm
Seems clear khalliw must have participated and has been shitting his pants for a year over someone turning him in.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday August 02 2022, @06:39PM (16 children)
Who's been saying that? You maybe?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @06:46PM (15 children)
You. As usual you do not say it directly, just call an insurrection a protest, demand proof that the coup was led by the 2020 loser, then just babble on after someone suggests you view the public footage of the speech and insurrection.
We get it, you conservatives were super pissed about the BLM protests that turned into riots occasionally and could not separate support for protests with condemnation of the riots. For the cherry on top we have conservatives refusing to condemn white supremacists and demanding that their domestic terrorists be let off the hook.
Yes you khallow, with your transparent attempts at defending the traitors. It saddens me that the most vocal supporters of freedom are so easily brainwashed into being fascists. What happened? Did a black man get elected POTUS or something? At least they'd never try and put a WOMAN in charge amirite????/s
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday August 02 2022, @06:56PM (14 children)
In other words, I didn't say it. Not good starting with these dishonest games.
I have since seen a lot of both the Trump speech and protest videos. My observations confirm the vacuousness of the above demands.
I'm not conservative and I didn't get super pissed about BLM protests. I treat the BLM protests and the January 6 protest similarly.
It's the unpopular and the nasty that taste tyranny first. They are the canaries in the coal mine.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @07:29PM (13 children)
Just remember, Glorious America, we're laughing at you, not with you.
Acts by the so-called leader of the free world and his lackey Guiliani ought to bring shame to the entire nation. Fallen politicians that refuse to step down we associate with charlatan dictators like Mugabe and Maduro not the United States, supposedly a light on a hill.
Nothing will surprise me when Trump is re-elected.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday August 02 2022, @07:48PM (4 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @08:08PM (3 children)
So what?
The man has shown himself unworthy of the office. If Republicans renominate him your country becomes an even bigger farce.
But you're right on leadership, if two geriatric has-beens were the best on offer out of a population of 300 million for the position of Omnipotent Supreme Leader of your fine nation then one wonders about the selection criteria.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @08:30PM (1 child)
Ageism?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @10:37PM
Absolutely. In most white collar workplaces, employing new staff beyond their 70th birthday is unheard of.
My mother is 18 months older than Mr Biden and worked part time until she was approximately 75. Expecting her to work a 100 hour week in the most important office in the land, surely not.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 03 2022, @12:41PM
This isn't saying anything serious. My take is that the last worthy president was probably Jimmy Carter, and he was a mediocre president at best.
My take is that the issue is two-fold. Weird two faction dynamics combined with old people vote.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @08:06PM (6 children)
Oh it brought us shame and unleashed a bunch if rabid bigots. Then we have fools like khallow here that are liars or overly proud conservatives that can't handle admitting they are lined up with total whackjob lying grifters steering the country into a new civil war. The grifter told them not to believe their eyes and ears so now khallow dutifully follows orders.
(Score: 0, Troll) by khallow on Wednesday August 03 2022, @12:51PM (4 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2022, @05:24PM (3 children)
Publicly televised, in social media feeds, and in text messages illegally deleted just for 1/6 by multiple corrupt agencies trying to protect the clown show. Traitors and apologists like yourself are scum trying to undermine democracy. You get to live with yourself, the rest of us will try and prevent civil war 2.0 dumbass bigot boogaloo.
Being a fox watcher I'm sure this is all surprising to you.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday August 04 2022, @12:29AM (2 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 06 2022, @04:15PM (1 child)
Good thing you declared it! I hear it works wonders for bankruptcy too . . . .
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday August 07 2022, @12:37AM
Indeed. Sounds like you need help understanding what evidence is.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2022, @10:53PM
Define "whackjobs". The current Idiot in Chief is appointing fuckwits who have no clue what a woman is. If that's not whacko, I don't know WTF is. Maybe Trump really was as bad as some of you claim. Unfortunately, for you, Joe Burden is making Trump look good.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2022, @05:53PM
Lock him up!
Lock him up!
Lock him up!
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @07:02PM (3 children)
khallow thinks that because he hasn't been arrested and charged yet, the FBI has nothing on him. But as an insurrection wingman, let me advise that just because they haven't come yet, that does not mean that they won't. Innocent because confessed, in a plea bargain? Maybe we need Bush administration methods, to put some seriousness in the discussion.
(Score: 2, Informative) by khallow on Tuesday August 02 2022, @07:49PM (2 children)
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2022, @08:29PM (1 child)
So you are awaiting a visit from the FBI? The "ari deflection" is getting old, khallow. Time to man up, and make a plea deal.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 03 2022, @04:19AM
(Score: 0, Redundant) by khallow on Wednesday August 03 2022, @12:47PM (8 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2022, @04:08PM
Sorry people aren't swallowing your narrative and know how to apply simple language definitions to televised actions? We're so sorry your journal didn't go as planned, must be rough for you.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday August 03 2022, @04:27PM
Forget to hit that 'post anonymously" box or do you always refer to yourself in the third person?
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2022, @04:29PM (1 child)
So what was the point of this journal?
Trump disgraced public office with his certifiable nonsense about how he "won", which he continues today.
Members of his far right personality cult got arrested.
The rest of the word watches on at the trainwreck with bemusement about a once proud civilization of truth justice and the American Way.
I don't gamble much but might put a few on orange 2024 just for the LOLs.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday August 04 2022, @12:23AM
One of those three isn't like the other. His "far right personality cult" will care a lot more about those people who got arrested than they will care the other two.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2022, @05:26PM (3 children)
You poor baby! Why does reality keep refusing to bend to your agenda???
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday August 04 2022, @12:24AM (2 children)
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. I'm still working on you, but I'm patient.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 06 2022, @04:17PM (1 child)
Is dating really that bad for rightwingers? Would explain your easily frustrated anger.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday August 06 2022, @06:34PM
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Wednesday August 03 2022, @07:03PM (4 children)
The man whose behavior repeatedly speaks for itself [mcsweeneys.net], or the ones who follow him?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday August 04 2022, @12:28AM (3 children)
This. The next time I get some Trumpster waxing poetic about how awesome Trump is, I'll remind them that he betrayed them when they had given their freedom for him.
(Score: 3, Informative) by krishnoid on Thursday August 04 2022, @03:59AM (2 children)
Make sure you point them to the list I linked above, and the list of everyone he could have pardoned [justice.gov], instead of (or in addition to) people who were kinda outright criminals [bbc.com].
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday August 06 2022, @03:21AM (1 child)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 06 2022, @04:20PM
People complain about Trump, but he helped increase the "wetlands" like no other administration. Even Nixon's ghost was impressed, if somewhat horrified at the foreign policy changes within his party.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday August 07 2022, @04:41PM (2 children)
He cowardly kept all that well away from himself. That's not the sign of a strong leader who cares about his followers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 08 2022, @05:31PM (1 child)
Typical conservative. You don't care about the fascism, just being "abandoned" after we liberals were constantly pointing out what a lying grifter your hero is.
"He said he'd do good things. But he's not hurting the right people."
- Some dumb conservative roughly quoted
Keep huffing that hate conservatives, probably doing wonders for your blood pressure.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday August 09 2022, @09:53AM
Your failure to understand other points of view is not my conservatism.