I managed to vote and not have the same problem. Unfortunately, as a person can only vote once, it is difficult to bug hunt.
Are you able to provide any additional information that might help us track the problem down? What else on the site were you doing at the same time? How long did you stay on the Poll site for?
-- I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
The message is the result of a 'reskey' (resource key) becoming invalid. The reason the key became invalid is unknown and the conditions surrounding it cannot be reproduced. It might have been inactive for too long, the IP address might have changed during the action, or there might have been a different cause altogether.
As we have pointed out to you, some of the software you too are using appears to be misconfigured and is compromising your identity - something we feel that you might think is important. You seem to be unable to fix your own problems and I do not think that your advice is worth much. Matthew 7:5.
-- I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
Seems to be many issues with permissions, and allowances, and abilities. Shirley nothing to do with janrinok's vendetta against several ex-soylentils that are not to be named? Well, as long at the pogrom continues, I am not longer going to post.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 17 2022, @05:10PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Wednesday August 17 2022, @05:10PM (#1267198)
Yet you've accused at least one non-ari person of being ari numerous times. Either you are lying to troll the troll or you are too lazy to verify identities before throwing accusations. All bad looks for a staffer.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:36AM
(2 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:36AM (#1266554)
as a person can only vote once, it is difficult to bug hunt.
A developer has stated why an issue is difficult to resolve. Perhaps you should try finding bugs in code and fixing them when the problem is hard to reproduce.
Maybe we need a poll on how many people here can actually program. There seems to be a minority here who just do not understand the basics.
I voted, the results appeared with the offending text at the top. I copied it and pasted into a comment and went on my merry way. No further problems encountered. Probably not worth worrying about if it was only me.
I encountered the same message at the first attempt of voting, but I had forgotten to log in first. The second attempt (after logging in) worked fine.
My first voting attempt was within a minute of loading the original page, so there shouldn't have been a delay issue. It was probably due to trying to vote as AC in my case.
Having done some limited investigation I can reproduce a similar fault for about half of the time. It seems to be linked to private tabs on FF and Brave browsers - but I am still not certain of the exact mechanism. If you use an newly opened private tab for voting it is possible that there is no reskey value transferred to/from that private tab - which it can be argued is exactly the function of private tabs. Hence at some point you can be using a tab that doesn't have a reskey.
However, this doesn't happen every time so I am looking at other actions that might be taking place simultaneously.
Can you tell me which browser you use, please?
-- I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
As a rule, I click TFA while it is still in the subs queue. Not always, but that's sort of the rule. Sometimes, a submission is moved out of subs queue, into pending stories, before I read TFA. In which case, I will sometimes copy paste the title into a search. I suppose that I've read about 60% of TFAs before they reach the front page. Those that I haven't read, I may well click on the link if I find the discussion interesting.
-- “I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 1) by Dichzor on Friday August 05 2022, @08:55AM
(3 children)
Then i close my eyes, and think of all the possible perspectives the text can be understood from.
Y'know, the genealogical perspective, non-hegemonic discources on whatever TFA is about, which level of the image it can be identified as, which tradition author is from and which other traditions he ignores... what has seduced the author and what does he fear...
What was the motivation to write the text, who is the target audience and the emotional index.. which words are used near each other, which words are presented as opposites and similar, etc.
If i'm intrigued by the TFA, i might scrape the whole archive, make a corpus and open it in my concordancer (TextSTAT 3) to see _how_ author uses words and how well his manner of writing matches what shit cultures like reddit or something awful output; to identify whether author is *shudder* another not constrained by reality activist (Иду Резать Актив, ehehehe)...
Reading texts is sirius biznis!
(Score: 2) by Mykl on Monday August 08 2022, @10:21PM
(2 children)
Does your analysis then inform future actions, or is this more of a filter to determine the weighting to put on a given article? Or do you just love stats?
More like divining what direction the text is pointing to and from, and what it says nothing about... it is very subjective, as most text analysis, i think... But instead of goats liver or tarot cards, i use text-composting tools people usually use for linguistic analysis... No objectivity, just pattern recognition...
I'll give an example.
I was looking for how concept of "synaptic current" in neurons was defined, to model it computationally for some unspecified reason. So i downloaded Izhikevich's "the geometry of excitability and bursting" and downloaded all texts from its reference list, then did same for more papers with high impact rating, as well as numentas output and all papers their people wrote ever etc. I think i ended with several thousand pdf files. I 3 sci-hub.
Then i made a corpus with that program, like 900 megabyte-ish, then i used that corpus to look up definitions of all kinds of things (neuron, synapse, hyperpolarisation, depolarisation, current)in all the texts simultaneously, that is what a concordancer does... Which i think provided me with data on how many possible ways currently there exists to understand and eventually model the synapses on a neuron. Like they can be seen as discrete units, an aggregate, with varying fidelity in dynamics, as a statistical distribution, as a binary digit if youre BlueBrain and so on... And also told me what ways of modelling it are missing, considered infeasible and so on, all the places worth looking into..
I did same for edward said's textual output once, lol, and long ago for all output of george w. bush junior... that is how i found out they both were full of.. but that's an entirely different matter, heheh
If the article interests me I'll read it. I usually also RTFA before I will post a comment. Occasionally there is an interesting discussion that has gotten far from the FA and I might comment on that without RTFA.
-- If you cough while drinking cheap red wine it really cleans out your sinuses.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 08 2022, @08:55PM
(1 child)
by Anonymous Coward
on Monday August 08 2022, @08:55PM (#1265600)
What is the fine article? Is it the source or the link if you will?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 10 2022, @11:14PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Wednesday August 10 2022, @11:14PM (#1266048)
The linked story. Way back in the /. days, if someone made an irrelevant comment because they didn't bother to read the article, a common retort was to tell them to Read The Fucking Article (sort of an homage to the older mainframe days of telling someone to RTFM for the manual). So in a discussion where someone wanted to refer to the linked article itself, people started referring to it as TFA. In polite company, people would tongue-in-cheek say that TFA meant "the fine article."
For a few years now, I've noticed more and more US based news sites blocking EU visitors (they don't want to comply with privacy and cookie laws here. I've kinda given up clicking through to articles. If I'm very interested in the article, I just have to find a local source or VPN it.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Monday August 15 2022, @04:24PM
(1 child)
You know that you can always use a proxy? IMO, the best proxy is a VPN with servers located all around the world, such as https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/ [privateinternetaccess.com] It takes about 5 to 10 seconds to switch servers from one country to another, one continent to another.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22 2022, @12:48PM
(1 child)
by Anonymous Coward
on Monday August 22 2022, @12:48PM (#1267936)
and sometimes even when it is not that interesting. Though now days less, since i can't participate in the conversation. There is less interest for me to look at the articles, if i can read it from the front page, because i can't take part in the accompanying conversation. But it is what it is.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22 2022, @12:54PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Monday August 22 2022, @12:54PM (#1267940)
Ok, i misunderstood, i do click to the referenced article sometimes, but i guess mostly not.
(Score: 2) by The Vocal Minority on Thursday August 04 2022, @04:44AM (17 children)
"This resource is no longer valid. Please return to the beginning and try again. "
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Thursday August 04 2022, @07:00AM (13 children)
I managed to vote and not have the same problem. Unfortunately, as a person can only vote once, it is difficult to bug hunt.
Are you able to provide any additional information that might help us track the problem down? What else on the site were you doing at the same time? How long did you stay on the Poll site for?
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04 2022, @11:16PM (10 children)
Seriously? Janrinock's naivete/sarcasm never ceases to amaze!
(Score: 4, Informative) by janrinok on Friday August 05 2022, @05:43AM (5 children)
My response was neither naive nor sarcastic.
The message is the result of a 'reskey' (resource key) becoming invalid. The reason the key became invalid is unknown and the conditions surrounding it cannot be reproduced. It might have been inactive for too long, the IP address might have changed during the action, or there might have been a different cause altogether.
As we have pointed out to you, some of the software you too are using appears to be misconfigured and is compromising your identity - something we feel that you might think is important. You seem to be unable to fix your own problems and I do not think that your advice is worth much. Matthew 7:5.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by zatoichi on Saturday August 06 2022, @08:01AM (3 children)
Seems to be many issues with permissions, and allowances, and abilities. Shirley nothing to do with janrinok's vendetta against several ex-soylentils that are not to be named? Well, as long at the pogrom continues, I am not longer going to post.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 09 2022, @03:05AM (2 children)
More AC fishies in janrinok's aquarium glub glub
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 10 2022, @08:54AM (1 child)
Looks like, true to his word, zatoichi never posted again. That, or janrinok banned him/her.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Thursday August 18 2022, @08:06AM
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 17 2022, @05:10PM
Yet you've accused at least one non-ari person of being ari numerous times. Either you are lying to troll the troll or you are too lazy to verify identities before throwing accusations. All bad looks for a staffer.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:36AM (2 children)
as a person can only vote once, it is difficult to bug hunt.
A developer has stated why an issue is difficult to resolve. Perhaps you should try finding bugs in code and fixing them when the problem is hard to reproduce.
Maybe we need a poll on how many people here can actually program. There seems to be a minority here who just do not understand the basics.
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Tuesday August 23 2022, @09:42AM
At first it has to be established that there is actually a bug in the code.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday August 23 2022, @04:49PM
The site's source code is available for everyone to peruse. Feel free to submit a bug report! https://github.com/SoylentNews/rehash/issues?q=is%3Aopen [github.com]
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 18 2022, @01:55PM
Stop picking on J :(
(Score: 2) by The Vocal Minority on Friday August 05 2022, @04:35AM
I voted, the results appeared with the offending text at the top. I copied it and pasted into a comment and went on my merry way. No further problems encountered. Probably not worth worrying about if it was only me.
(Score: 2) by kazzie on Thursday August 25 2022, @11:26AM
I encountered the same message at the first attempt of voting, but I had forgotten to log in first. The second attempt (after logging in) worked fine.
My first voting attempt was within a minute of loading the original page, so there shouldn't have been a delay issue. It was probably due to trying to vote as AC in my case.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Thursday August 25 2022, @02:37PM (2 children)
Having done some limited investigation I can reproduce a similar fault for about half of the time. It seems to be linked to private tabs on FF and Brave browsers - but I am still not certain of the exact mechanism. If you use an newly opened private tab for voting it is possible that there is no reskey value transferred to/from that private tab - which it can be argued is exactly the function of private tabs. Hence at some point you can be using a tab that doesn't have a reskey.
However, this doesn't happen every time so I am looking at other actions that might be taking place simultaneously.
Can you tell me which browser you use, please?
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: 2) by The Vocal Minority on Friday August 26 2022, @05:19AM
Firefox - and it's not outside the realms of possibility that I was using a private tab at the time.
(Score: 2) by kazzie on Friday August 26 2022, @08:10AM
My experience (see above) was also with Firefox, though in my case it was not a private tab: just trying to vote before logging in!
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Friday August 05 2022, @02:30AM
As a rule, I click TFA while it is still in the subs queue. Not always, but that's sort of the rule. Sometimes, a submission is moved out of subs queue, into pending stories, before I read TFA. In which case, I will sometimes copy paste the title into a search. I suppose that I've read about 60% of TFAs before they reach the front page. Those that I haven't read, I may well click on the link if I find the discussion interesting.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 1) by Dichzor on Friday August 05 2022, @08:55AM (3 children)
Pretty much always.
Then i close my eyes, and think of all the possible perspectives the text can be understood from.
Y'know, the genealogical perspective, non-hegemonic discources on whatever TFA is about, which level of the image it can be identified as, which tradition author is from and which other traditions he ignores... what has seduced the author and what does he fear...
What was the motivation to write the text, who is the target audience and the emotional index.. which words are used near each other, which words are presented as opposites and similar, etc.
If i'm intrigued by the TFA, i might scrape the whole archive, make a corpus and open it in my concordancer (TextSTAT 3) to see _how_ author uses words and how well his manner of writing matches what shit cultures like reddit or something awful output; to identify whether author is *shudder* another not constrained by reality activist (Иду Резать Актив, ehehehe)...
Reading texts is sirius biznis!
(Score: 2) by Mykl on Monday August 08 2022, @10:21PM (2 children)
I'm intrigued.
Does your analysis then inform future actions, or is this more of a filter to determine the weighting to put on a given article? Or do you just love stats?
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Dichzor on Tuesday August 09 2022, @11:15AM (1 child)
So hard to express it...
More like divining what direction the text is pointing to and from, and what it says nothing about... it is very subjective, as most text analysis, i think...
But instead of goats liver or tarot cards, i use text-composting tools people usually use for linguistic analysis...
No objectivity, just pattern recognition...
I'll give an example.
I was looking for how concept of "synaptic current" in neurons was defined, to model it computationally for some unspecified reason.
So i downloaded Izhikevich's "the geometry of excitability and bursting" and downloaded all texts from its reference list, then did same for more papers with high impact rating, as well as numentas output and all papers their people wrote ever etc. I think i ended with several thousand pdf files. I 3 sci-hub.
Then i made a corpus with that program, like 900 megabyte-ish, then i used that corpus to look up definitions of all kinds of things (neuron, synapse, hyperpolarisation, depolarisation, current)in all the texts simultaneously, that is what a concordancer does... Which i think provided me with data on how many possible ways currently there exists to understand and eventually model the synapses on a neuron. Like they can be seen as discrete units, an aggregate, with varying fidelity in dynamics, as a statistical distribution, as a binary digit if youre BlueBrain and so on... And also told me what ways of modelling it are missing, considered infeasible and so on, all the places worth looking into..
I did same for edward said's textual output once, lol, and long ago for all output of george w. bush junior... that is how i found out they both were full of.. but that's an entirely different matter, heheh
Guess i just love stats.. *shudder*
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 10 2022, @11:19PM
That's pretty hardcore. Pretty awesome, but also pretty hardcore.
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Monday August 08 2022, @11:36AM
If the article interests me I'll read it. I usually also RTFA before I will post a comment.
Occasionally there is an interesting discussion that has gotten far from the FA and I might comment on that without RTFA.
If you cough while drinking cheap red wine it really cleans out your sinuses.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 08 2022, @08:55PM (1 child)
What is the fine article? Is it the source or the link if you will?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 10 2022, @11:14PM
The linked story. Way back in the /. days, if someone made an irrelevant comment because they didn't bother to read the article, a common retort was to tell them to Read The Fucking Article (sort of an homage to the older mainframe days of telling someone to RTFM for the manual). So in a discussion where someone wanted to refer to the linked article itself, people started referring to it as TFA. In polite company, people would tongue-in-cheek say that TFA meant "the fine article."
(Score: 1) by venn on Wednesday August 10 2022, @10:12AM (2 children)
For a few years now, I've noticed more and more US based news sites blocking EU visitors (they don't want to comply with privacy and cookie laws here. I've kinda given up clicking through to articles. If I'm very interested in the article, I just have to find a local source or VPN it.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Monday August 15 2022, @04:24PM (1 child)
You know that you can always use a proxy? IMO, the best proxy is a VPN with servers located all around the world, such as https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/ [privateinternetaccess.com] It takes about 5 to 10 seconds to switch servers from one country to another, one continent to another.
Disclaimer: While I still think PIA is about the best VPN, it isn't exactly what it started out to be. https://www.hackread.com/private-internet-access-pia-vpn-sold-israel-privacy-concerns/ [hackread.com] If you go that route, you'll have to shop around for whatever you think best.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 18 2022, @02:01PM
This reads like an ad for http://nordvpn.com [nordvpn.com]
(Score: 2) by richtopia on Saturday August 13 2022, @10:15PM
I can comment on a lot, but it helps if I can support being right with a quote from the article in question.
If I'm wrong... maybe the quote won't make it into the comment.
(Score: 2) by rufty on Monday August 15 2022, @01:30PM (1 child)
I generally click the article when I think it'll have piccies. (Oooo, space telescope stuff!)
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday August 23 2022, @04:51PM
Astronomy pictures are cool.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22 2022, @12:48PM (1 child)
and sometimes even when it is not that interesting. Though now days less, since i can't participate in the conversation. There is less interest for me to look at the articles, if i can read it from the front page, because i can't take part in the accompanying conversation. But it is what it is.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22 2022, @12:54PM
Ok, i misunderstood, i do click to the referenced article sometimes, but i guess mostly not.