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Journal by Runaway1956

UK’s National Health Service has ordered the closure of a controversial gender clinic for children over a report revealing that some health staff felt pressured to take “an unquestioning affirmative approach” to children experiencing gender dysphoria.

The Tavistock Centre, in north London, is known as the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS). Tavistock was founded in 1920 and originally focused on helping WWI shellshock victims. Since then it has grown to encompass a variety of services under the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust banner, with GIDS focusing on child gender issues. Since 1989 GIDS has treated 19,000 children with gender dysphoria (the feeling that one’s true identity is the opposite gender of their physical body).

The external report expressed concerns, among them the lack of knowledge about the effects of puberty blockers. Dr. Hilary Cass, the head of the review, wrote a letter to the head of NHS England on July 19:

…the most significant knowledge gaps are in relation to treatment with puberty blockers, and the lack of clarity about whether the rationale for prescription is as an initial part of a transition pathway or as a ‘pause’ to allow more time for decision making.

We do not fully understand the role of adolescent sex hormones in driving the development of both sexuality and gender identity through the early teen years, so by extension we cannot be sure about the impact of stopping these hormone surges on psychosexual and gender maturation. We therefore have no way of knowing whether, rather than buying time to make a decision, puberty blockers may disrupt that decision-making process.

It’s interesting to read a professional admitting that they do not know everything about gender dysphoria and transition because every time I hear an “expert” they sound as if there are no unanswered questions and that we have a full understanding of the effects of hormone blockers and surgery. If you want to see people who are completely sure of their realities, check out Matt Walsh’s documentary, What is a Woman, read Bonchie’s piece on it, or just read below:

Pediatrician tells Matt Walsh 'your sperm don't make you male,' 'wonderful' puberty blockers are 'completely reversible' in 'What Is a Woman?' documentary https://t.co/umKVYPgmbT

https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2022/08/12/uk-pediatric-gender-clinic-forced-to-close-after-damning-report-faces-legal-action-from-former-patients-n611473

https://www.theblaze.com/news/walsh-what-is-a-woman

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/tavistock-gender-clinic-lawyers-latest-b2143006.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62335665

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Retian on Sunday August 14 2022, @02:34AM (14 children)

    by Retian (4977) on Sunday August 14 2022, @02:34AM (#1266530)

    This doesn't affect you in any way yet you still obsess over people who are different, treating them as subhumans just for not confirming to your ideals without hurting anyone at all. (Hell, you might even take offense to the "not hurting people" part since you're such a violence fetishist.)
    Another person's choice of pronouns or whatever doesn't affect you in the slightest, unless maybe you've encountered a transgender person and became uncomfortable because of it. In that case I'd take a page from your own book and just tell you to man up and deal with it, snowflake.

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  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 14 2022, @04:04AM (10 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 14 2022, @04:04AM (#1266538) Homepage Journal

    This doesn't affect you in any way

    Wake up and smell the coffee. The same nonsense is happening right here in the US. Do you care what happens to your grandchildren? I know I do. I don't want a bunch of child groomers convincing little children that they should have a snip here, a snip there, ending up as some sexless freak. At age 18, the kid is an adult, and that is time for him/her to make his own decisions.

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    Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @04:52AM (8 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @04:52AM (#1266547)

      Your genitals were mutilated at birth because of Protestants, idiot.

      • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:17AM (7 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:17AM (#1266551) Homepage Journal

        1. You don't know about me.
        2. Circumcision doesn't result in sterility.
        3. Circumcision wasn't invented by Protestants.
        4. Babies don't decide whether they should be circumcised - parents, doctors, and clergy seem to make that decision jointly.

        Did you have a point to make?

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        Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
        • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:26AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:26AM (#1266553)

          Did you have a point to make?

          Yes, that you're an idiot. Don't you think it would be better to face your trauma from having one of the most sensitive parts of your body torn apart, cut off, and thrown in a garbage disposal without your informed consent?

        • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @07:11AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @07:11AM (#1266562)

          1. You don't know about me.

          Actually, I believe we do know quite a lot about Runaway, from the guns he own, the vehicles he drives, how often he goes to Texarkana, that he works night shift maitenance for Husquavarna, and that he has a thing about children's sexuality and trans-sexual weiners. Actually, we know far too much about Runaway. 148 Lr 116 Wallaby Way, outside of Sidney, Arkansaws. Look for the Double-wide with the Australian shepards.

          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @09:46AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @09:46AM (#1266575)

            And, apparently, we know that he is cut. Presumably a "bottom", but I do not think that has been confirmed.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @02:13PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @02:13PM (#1266584)

              He's totally a bottom. It shows through every now and then.

        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday August 15 2022, @03:02PM (2 children)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday August 15 2022, @03:02PM (#1266754) Journal

          Right, 'cause who INVENTED the procedure is much more important that the guy who actually cut off part of your dick!

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @10:31PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @10:31PM (#1266885)

            Do we have evidence that Abraham (or Moses, or the ancient Jewish culture at large) actually invented it? Did Egypt mutilate slaves' genitals? Did other, unrelated cultures practice ritual male infant genital mutilation at that time?

            I remember in the first dramatization of Roots, genital mutilation was depicted, but of adult men instead of infants. Was this a traditional practice of Bantu cultures, developed independently of the Jewish tradition of bris, or an anachronism?

            I realize that philosophy has been banned, and probably our Jewish and African-from-Africa members have left in disgust at Ethanol-fueled, Runaway1956, and janrinok's bottomless barrel of excuses, but is there at least an anthropologist in the house?

            Regardless, it's important that we remember that the vast majority of people with male reproductive systems who have been mutilated at birth in the USA, and in other countries where the fad spread briefly, were mutilated because of a handful of Protestants.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 16 2022, @03:44AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 16 2022, @03:44AM (#1266915)

              A Short History of Circumcision in North America: In the Physicians' Own Words [noharmm.org], offering a regional snapshot --
              1860: .001% of the North Eastern urban American male population circumcised
              1920: 50% of the North Eastern urban American male population circumcised
              1971: 90% of the North Eastern urban American male population circumcised
              1994: 60% of the North Eastern urban American male population circumcised

              History of circumcision [wikipedia.org]:

              Circumcision likely has ancient roots among several ethnic groups in sub-equatorial Africa, Egypt, and Arabia, though the specific form and extent of circumcision has varied. Ritual male circumcision is known to have been practiced by South Sea Islanders, Aboriginal peoples of Australia, Sumatrans, Incas, Aztecs, Mayans and Ancient Egyptians. Today it is still practiced by Jews, Muslims, Coptic Christians, Ethiopian Orthodox, Eritrean Orthodox, Druze, and some tribes in East and Southern Africa, as well as in the United States and Philippines....

              Although negative attitudes prevailed for much of the 19th century, this began to change in the latter part of the century, especially in the English-speaking world. This shift can be seen in the account on circumcision in the Encyclopædia Britannica. The ninth edition, published in 1876, discusses the practice as a religious rite among Jews, Muslims, the ancient Egyptians and tribal peoples in various parts of the world. The author of the entry rejected sanitary explanations of the procedure in favour of a religious one: "like other body mutilations ... [it is] of the nature of a representative sacrifice". (R. Darby)

              However, by 1910 the entry [in the Encyclopædia Britannica] had been turned on its head....

              In 1949, a lack of consensus in the medical community as to whether circumcision carried with it any notable health benefit motivated the United Kingdom's newly formed National Health Service to remove infant circumcision from its list of covered services. Since then, circumcision has been an out-of-pocket cost to parents, and the proportion of circumcised men is around 9%.

              However, Wikipedia does not tell us about non-Jewish people in the USA who were mutilated simply because they had a Jewish-sounding last name, or otherwise without anyone's consent at all. Exposing the seriousness of this matter and the scale of the child abuse conducted for completely fraudulent reasons would be the task of a credible men's rights movement, as would exposing the scapegoating of Jewish people for these entirely Christian crimes.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @01:38AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @01:38AM (#1266669)

      Runaway just has issues with how Rupert Murdock groomed him to be a far-right racist republican.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @08:51PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @08:51PM (#1266632)

    The Republicans don't care about trans-kids. What they care about is how they're coming off the school shootings and gun control regulations media coverage as the party that puts gun ownership ahead of the lives of children. So, by misdirecting the media around trans stories, they get to take the "protect the children" positions again and come off as the good guys.

  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @11:16PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @11:16PM (#1266887)

    But with #LGBdroptheT trending on Twitter multiple times over the course of the last week or two, it seems apparent that at least in certain quarters, the revolutionaries are doing what revolutionaries always do: turn on each other...

    Beyond just that, the transgender movement has brought excess cultural baggage that involves the erasure of sex distinctions in athletics, public locker rooms, bathrooms, dressing rooms, the denial of biological realities, coining of pretend pronouns with bizarre sounding names like zir, mix, and zhe, and even the attempted normalization of age-inappropriate drag performances for children.

    None of that has anything to do with the original objectives, intents, and purposes of the lesbian, gay, and even bisexual equality movement. And it seems as though there is a growing, and increasingly vocal contingent of those individuals who have had enough.

    - It’s happening: “LGB drop the T” keeps trending on Twitter as gay activists turn on transgender activists [notthebee.com]