Given how often libertarians are mentioned here, I thought this would be interesting. And maybe there's some people with a lot more insight into what's going on.
A few months back (May 29), the national leadership of the Libertarian Party (the "Big L" political party, not the "small l" belief system) was taken over by a group called the "Mises Caucus". While their platform seems to be a mundane version of a normal platform.
In recent days, there's several state level "rebellions" which seems to indicate that the schism between the old guard and them isn't going away any time soon.
For me, they do seem to tilt at absolutist windmills rather than do stuff they want done - which is a common libertarian flaw. And the implicit emphasis on Mises economics is a huge problem for me. Their stance against vaccination and supporting Trump's allegations of election fraud seem pretty shifty.
OTOH, the previous leadership didn't seem all that interested in libertarianism. Maybe this will shake things up in a useful way?
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 21 2022, @08:36PM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Wednesday September 21 2022, @08:36PM (#1272872)
Collectivism? You're barking up the wrong flagpole, comrade.
What's in somebody's pants? Mind your business
Collective action != collectivism.
California's ballot propositions, letter writing campaigns to elected officials and protest marches are collective action (you know, a "collection" of people taking action).
Seizing farmland and forcing citizens to work that land whether they want to or not and state ownership of the means of production is collectivism [britannica.com]
That you conflate the two says more about you than it does about those ideas.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 22 2022, @04:30AM
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by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday September 22 2022, @04:30AM (#1272942)
If you've made up your mind about means of this and that, and you're simply practicing your "gotcha," there's not much point in playing with you... comrade.
While I can't speak for the other AC, this sort of collective action is supported by both libertarianism and the Libertarian Party. I guess I too was thinking something more like a wealth redistribution scheme (public pensions, welfare/UBI, etc).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 21 2022, @05:31AM (4 children)
Collectivism? You're barking up the wrong flagpole, comrade.
What's in somebody's pants? Mind your business.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 21 2022, @08:36PM (3 children)
Collective action != collectivism.
California's ballot propositions, letter writing campaigns to elected officials and protest marches are collective action (you know, a "collection" of people taking action).
Seizing farmland and forcing citizens to work that land whether they want to or not and state ownership of the means of production is collectivism [britannica.com]
That you conflate the two says more about you than it does about those ideas.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 22 2022, @04:30AM (1 child)
If you've made up your mind about means of this and that, and you're simply practicing your "gotcha," there's not much point in playing with you... comrade.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 22 2022, @08:35AM
Where's my '-1, What the fuck are you blathering on about?' mod when I need it.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday September 22 2022, @12:12PM