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Journal by khallow
I've ranted before about the ridiculous nature of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) a holdover from the Obama era.

It's primary gimmick is the following: it isn't dependent on funding from US Congress. At one time, it even used to be independent of the US Executive Branch until a court ruling in 2016 that the US President could fire the head of the agency.

A three-judge panel on the 5th Circuit Federal Court of Appeals ruled this week that the CFPB's structure is unconstitutional because Congress has no control over the agency's budget, which is funded entirely by the Federal Reserve. Under the terms of Dodd-Frank, the CFPB is entitled to receive a budget totaling up to 12 percent of the Federal Reserve's annual operating expenses, and the Federal Reserve is not allowed to refuse the CFPB's requests for funding.

Now, that funding model has been used to reverse a ruling by the CFPB as unconstitutional with the potential to put all its rulings since formation into question on the same constitutional basis.

Why it matters: The reasoning behind the ruling, if upheld, could potentially invalidate all the rules enacted by the CFPB over its 11-year existence — including regulations underpinning the U.S. mortgage system.

This is one of the big reasons I oppose the passing of bad law even when it serves a concrete good. It can take a long time to fix the massive problems that such law brings.

And note that a key argument by the court was that there was no precedent for the CFPB's unconstitutional structure. If there had been other agencies with similar setups, this could have been very hard to overturn. Similarly, the CFPB is a precedent for future breaking of the US Constitution along these lines. Without the ruling, there would have been a stronger case for future misdeeds of this sort.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 24 2022, @11:15PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 24 2022, @11:15PM (#1278243)

    Again, if the Constitution restricted the length of appropriations for entities like the CFPB, you would certainly have said where in the Constitution this restrictions is imposed.

    And certainly if the constitution supported the many restrictions we have on free speech, we could easily point out where such restrictions are enumerated. And then this:

    "a regular statement and account of receipts and expenditures of all public money shall be published from time to time"

    "time to time"... Nice and vague, ain't it? The interpretation of what is written seems to depend on personal bias.

  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday October 25 2022, @01:27PM (5 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 25 2022, @01:27PM (#1278332) Journal
    Another insight into the unconstitutionality of the CFPB scheme is that it bypasses centuries of rules and regulation. We need to keep in mind that the existing system (annual allotments and so on) evolved to comply with constitutional law. Sure, the Constitution didn't say that this approach was the one and only way. But some way had to be chosen, and this was it. Now, we have a unique law that bypasses all that for no legitimate reason. You don't need unaccountability to set up a financial regulation agency. Instead, you need the opposite!

    "time to time"... Nice and vague, ain't it? The interpretation of what is written seems to depend on personal bias.

    Here, you're just weaseling that the underlying constitutional mandate is vague. Sure, it is. But the rules and regulations that sprung up from that are far from vague. It's not personal bias, but generations of rules. The court is quite right to strike down CFPB because it's evading those without cause.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 25 2022, @11:21PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 25 2022, @11:21PM (#1278455)

      The court is quite right to strike down CFPB because it's evading those without cause.

      No, it had good cause, it was to prevent a partisan congress from defunding it, doesn't work of course, because any law can be repealed by congress.

      The damn thing was just toothless featherbedding the bureaucracy anyway, good riddance to it. Unfortunately, consumer protection is dead

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday October 25 2022, @11:55PM (3 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 25 2022, @11:55PM (#1278461) Journal

        No, it had good cause, it was to prevent a partisan congress from defunding it, doesn't work of course, because any law can be repealed by congress.

        No, it's that other thing: a terrible cause. Seriously, you can't evade democracy legally just because there are partisan congresses out there.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 27 2022, @08:56PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 27 2022, @08:56PM (#1278841)

          Why? It's no different than giving the judges lifetime appointments. That's a complete bypass of "democracy". Let's sunset that first

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday October 28 2022, @01:56AM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 28 2022, @01:56AM (#1278887) Journal

            It's no different than giving the judges lifetime appointments.

            Which are allowed by the Constitution. Further, Judges can be impeached and removed by an elected Congress, for example. There's no explicit allowance in the Constitution to remove the head of the CFPB, remember? To do that, you basically have to revoke the charter of the CFPB first.

            Funny how you just can't think about why this anti-democratic stuff sucks so much. Remove that programming and think for yourself!

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday October 30 2022, @04:04AM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday October 30 2022, @04:04AM (#1279288) Journal

            It's no different than giving the judges lifetime appointments. That's a complete bypass of "democracy".

            Also, let us note that lifetime appointments is centuries old. They've had a long time to work out the problems.

            Creating a permanent bureaucracy that deliberately bypasses what we've been using for centuries is not.

            And of course, this is just a lousy whataboutism. As I've noted before, whataboutisms fail when your side does worse. The CFPB is very different from a judicial branch that was deliberately set up to be independent of the other branches of government. What really is the reason for a regulatory agency to be independent of both the legislative and executive branches?