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Journal by janrinok

NCommander is publishing a Meta story today: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/11/20/0342250 It will be published on the front page with all of the restrictions that apply to such stories and discussions.

In it NCommander explains how he sees the future of the site developing with regards to software, hardware and administration. Some of those views are different now from the views that many of us held in 2014. The requirement for some of our servers is no longer justified, and there are better technologies available for achieving what we are trying to do thus also reducing our running costs. The administration of the site is placing an increasing burden on the relatively few administrators that remain in the support team. Society has also changed. Some discussion has been replaced by intimidation and threats. It is much more polarised than it was in 2014. In many ways this is the same as for numerous other web sites. However, the abuse and toxic atmosphere created by a small number of Anonymous Cowards is unacceptable and must be reversed if the site is to survive. The responsibility for some of the problems that we are experiencing, and the resulting actions that we have had to take, is placed entirely at their feet.

A few months ago the majority of the community opted - albeit very reluctantly - to remove AC posts from the front pages of the site. This action has successfully removed the vast majority of the abuse from our discussions. We are seeing a slow increase in the number of comments week-on-week and the signal-to-noise ratio is now much higher. It is only right that we also reconsider the implications of that change.

This journal entry is to enable anyone who wishes to remain anonymous to express their views. I promise that I will read it and will ensure that genuine views are considered when the community decides which path it wishes to follow. I cannot make any assurances that other members of the site's administration will read it - although I expect that at least some will. If you have an account then I strongly encourage you to leave your views under NCommander's Meta story and not here.

I further my promise that I will try to represent your views as honestly and fairly as I can.

If you abuse this journal then you are simply giving more support to the alternative options that might be considered than you are to the status quo. I encourage you to expresses sensible, logical and considered views but should you decide that abuse is what you prefer then this journal entry can simply be removed. You are being given an opportunity - do not throw it away.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 16 2022, @10:07AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 16 2022, @10:07AM (#1282638)

    Quoth yon janrinok, he of the lean and butthurt look:

    I further my promise that I will try to represent your views as honestly and fairly as I can.

    If you abuse this journal then you are simply giving more support to the alternative options that might be considered than you are to the status quo. I encourage you to expresses sensible, logical and considered views but should you decide that abuse is what you prefer then this journal entry can simply be removed. You are being given an opportunity - do not throw it away.

    Nice, we don't have to throw it away, Ncommander apparently did it for us. I recall there being several hundred inciteful AC comments posted to this journal entry, but they have vanished. And now janrinok is taking umbrage. Not sure what it is supposed to cure, but better than him encouraging the pushing of horse paste.

  • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday December 16 2022, @02:06PM (1 child)

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday December 16 2022, @02:06PM (#1282658) Journal

    I am neither 'butthurt' nor have I taken umbrage. NCommander was suggesting lots of things, including that all AC posting should be stopped - I actually created this journal to ensure that you could give your own points of view. My journal entry is still here and you can read every AC comment in it. It has patently not been taken away by anyone. You are still writing in it.

    The truth is that by Anonymous Coward deciding he spoke for everyone in an entirely different discussion he effectively shut down that discussion. Not a single AC said that they would accept the proposal (I have a personal copy of many of the comments). I promised to represent the views of all ACs. Therefore the proposal will go no further for the time being.

    You have just realised that :

    • You have now thrown away your only chance of ACs returning to the front pages - you could have been anonymous yet accountable but that was unacceptable. I also said that without accountability you would not get access to the front pages.
    • Any argument that you might have had for keeping AC posting without first logging in anywhere on this site is serious damaged by your own actions. You do not want to be accountable for your actions. Welcome to the real world.

    I recall there being several hundred inciteful AC comments posted to this journal entry,

    I think you mean insightful, which has an entirely different meaning.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 16 2022, @07:47PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 16 2022, @07:47PM (#1282739)

      No, I meant "insiteful inciteful, as in "full of incision". There were hundreds of comments, lost in the most recent "accidental" site reset that wiped out nearly all evidence of opposition to janrinok's dastardly plan. I (using the Imperial AC "we") just want the site to shut down, now. Let it go, janrinok, just let it go. Ncommander has gone. It is over.