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posted by janrinok on Saturday December 03 2022, @07:52PM   Printer-friendly

Elon Musk and Neuralink Announce... Nope Nope Nope nope Nope NOPE nope No.:

As a journalist, I'm supposed to approach news stories with an unbiased attitude. Just the facts, ma'am. But sometimes, that's not possible. When it comes to Elon Musk and Neuralink's desire to implant tech in our heads, I can only say NOPE. HECK NO. But hey, human trials are just six months away.

I will try, however, to get into the facts of the story with some seriousness. Neuralink, if you're unfamiliar, is one of Elon Musk's many companies. And in some ways, you could almost view it as a crossroads between those companies. If Tesla (his EV company) is a technology that we get into, and Twitter (his social media company) is a technology that broadcasts our thoughts, then Neuralink is a technology that gets into us and broadcasts our thoughts.

No seriously. The idea here is that Neuralink will implant an interface device into your skull—and into your brain—that can wirelessly connect to computers. You could then think at a computer to type out messages.

To start with, the company already mentioned releasing an iOS app that could Bluetooth connect to the "Link" device in your head to allow you "wireless" and "hands-free" control. Presumably, you'd be holding the phone while not using your fingers to type on it, so you could see that it worked correctly. That might be a boon to someone with disabilities that prevent the usual method of typing messages, but then again, other options already exist and don't require brain surgery.

At an event last night, Musk showed off the devices implanted in monkeys. The monkeys typed out phrases on a computer without using their hands or fingers. Now, to be clear, the monkeys didn't know what they were typing and didn't think the phrases themselves. Instead, they moved around a cursor to click on highlighted letters and words—they were guided to the phrase. But still, as Musk put it, they "telepathically" moved the cursor.

The company also showed that the monkey had already trained to sit under wireless chargers to charge the Link devices. Because that's right, now your head needs wireless charging too. Every night you'd put your watch on its wireless charger, your phone on its wireless charger, and your head in its wireless charger. That sounds amazing.

Getting the Link installed involves robotic surgery to remove a piece of your skull and insert 64 "hair-thin" threads into your brain. The LINK device, which resembles a stack of coins, would sit flush with your skull. Or, as Musk put it, "it's like replacing a piece of your skull with a smartwatch, for lack of a better analogy."

However, there have been many reports of animal cruelty levelled against Neuralink, including claims or high animal mortality rates, including:

So is this justified in the name of science, or is it something that for the time being we just don't need to do?


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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 03 2022, @08:33PM (7 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday December 03 2022, @08:33PM (#1281040) Journal

    Don't wireless frequencies cause brain cancer? Let's just put a wireless transmitter IN the brain!!

    I need a 1/2 sarcasm tag there. The idea that radio waves at cellphone and WIFI levels of power cause cancer has been debunked again and again. Still, the idea continues to crop up, after all these years.

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  • (Score: 4, Touché) by krishnoid on Saturday December 03 2022, @10:18PM (3 children)

    by krishnoid (1156) on Saturday December 03 2022, @10:18PM (#1281063)

    That's your complaint? I was thinking that people being able to think their thoughts directly into Twitter and Facebook [youtu.be] would shorten the human lifespan in developed nations enough that you wouldn't have the opportunity to die from biological causes.

    • (Score: 2, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 03 2022, @10:28PM (2 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday December 03 2022, @10:28PM (#1281066) Journal

      Well, you've approached the problem from an unexpected tangent. Who exactly believes that those who want the implants are human? It might be the lizard people getting these implants!

      • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Saturday December 03 2022, @11:56PM (1 child)

        by krishnoid (1156) on Saturday December 03 2022, @11:56PM (#1281074)

        I'd think the only thing that could actually absorb that stuff at any speed [theverge.com] without losing its sanity and/or moral compass is an artificial intelligence. And even that's not guaranteed [theverge.com].

        • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday December 05 2022, @04:13PM

          by Freeman (732) on Monday December 05 2022, @04:13PM (#1281278) Journal

          You're implying that a set of algorithms can have a moral compass or sanity. The programmers that programmed the set of algorithms may possess those things, the algorithms and code is a set of data. It has much more in common with Shakespeare's Sonnets than a cat, dog, monkey, pig, dinosaur, or human.

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  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Snospar on Sunday December 04 2022, @03:04AM (1 child)

    by Snospar (5366) Subscriber Badge on Sunday December 04 2022, @03:04AM (#1281088)

    Don't wireless frequencies cause brain cancer

    No, they don't. You follow with the fact that that claim has been debunked again and again. These radio waves are travelling, harmlessly, through you and me right now and they aren't powerful enough or at the right frequencies to do anything at all to the matter that makes a human body. But go on, keep spouting your shite. No one will care or listen.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 04 2022, @03:51AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 04 2022, @03:51AM (#1281090)

      I need a 1/2 sarcasm tag there.

      Reading comprehension, much?

  • (Score: 1) by ShovelOperator1 on Sunday December 04 2022, @12:31PM

    by ShovelOperator1 (18058) on Sunday December 04 2022, @12:31PM (#1281126)

    No! The radio waves caused cancer when they were used by hobbyists, ham radio or electronics experimenters. They are totally OK when they are used by corporations. ;-)
    (pointing at 5G and these alarming 90s articles that amateur microwave communication will fry our brains)