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(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 20 2022, @10:19PM
(13 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Tuesday December 20 2022, @10:19PM (#1283400)
Interesting how many logged in users don't realize that Post as AC is still tagged to their account. Janrinok has been open about that recently, but obviously it should be clarified with some text under the button. For a supposed community site there is very little respect for the plebe users from staff.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 20 2022, @10:23PM
(12 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Tuesday December 20 2022, @10:23PM (#1283402)
Or the fact that the IP is actually tracked and quite easily de-hashed since the hash hasn't changed since the site launched. For protecting free speech this site has done a miserable job aside from allowing disgusting content, likely with the usual techy attitude that users are idiots that dessrve what they get if they do not understand the privacy measures needed even for a supposed non-tracking free speech website.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2022, @01:25AM
(3 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Wednesday December 21 2022, @01:25AM (#1283433)
This is why I always post as pure, unadulterated, AC. No log-in that links to an IP hash! Only downside is that I am constantly accused of being aristarchus. I don't think I even have his IP hash. Strange.
Every time you contact the site you have an IP. Logged in users change their IPs just like ACs do. You give us just as much, or just as little, information with each of your contacts as anyone else does. You are all still paranoid about rainbow hash tables etc - which the site does not have or use. They have been useless after the widespread introduction of TOR, VPNs and IPv6 i.e since around 2017. Your fears are unfounded (unless you are in the USA where they seem to be very slow in introducing IPv6).
We don't care WHO you are or WHERE you are. But if you really want to be anonymous - get off the internet. Every connection tells the site you are connecting to something.
-- I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2022, @03:06PM
(1 child)
by Anonymous Coward
on Wednesday December 21 2022, @03:06PM (#1283472)
How do you supposedly run the hash backwards to recover the IP?
You really should go back and understand how this works. CdrTaco explained this way back in 1998 or so as to why it was done and needed, and if you are that paranoid about posted AC comments being tied to your account, then change your IP address. Use a VPN for one but not the other, or if you are on dynamic DNS, refresh your IP. I'm surprised you think the site has the resources and the desire to want to back out the IPs (which even if one could, I don't believe the whole IP address is hashed anyway).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2022, @03:16PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Wednesday December 21 2022, @03:16PM (#1283476)
The old admin The Mighty Buzzard admitted it could be done. It is trivial if you know the hash and algorithm to then build a table of all hashed IPs. The hash seed has never been changed per Janrinok. For a pro-privacy site it is pretty horrifying how these simple details are not explained, and the "your IP is never recorded" is at best a grey lie. Supposedly true AC comments have the hashed IP dropped after a couple weeks, but logged in user comments have the IP hash stored forever even if you click "post as AC" which is another grey lie.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 24 2022, @01:51AM
(3 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday December 24 2022, @01:51AM (#1283790)
No jani was right, though I was not trying to post as a different AC like the paranoid boomer likes to imagine. TOR is not under my control, and jani the genius should know since he has pointed out many times that the invalid form keys are likely due to the TOR ip changing before hitting submit.
Personally I can't believe posting the broad technical details about how SN fails privacy was modded troll. Then I remember that SN is not pro-privacy, and is just a shit site prividing playsible deniability so white supremacists like Runaway1956 can post their suggestions for political terrorism. It is quite clear.
Now what other info might be leaking that makes jani so sure of his claims? Was it just the short time period between posts, paired with the lowest ever visitor counts? SNR much better when only a few dozen people bother to visit these days?
Ah well, I thought about registering an account now that they finally banmed ACs most everywhere, but the lack of backbone to actually enforce the rules combined with the attacks I receive for be too similar to he-who-shall-not-be-aristarchused leaves a nasty taste in my mouth. Can't have it both ways, pure free speech with the shit posts that go with it, or limited speech where dumb ass filth gets users a ban.
Maybe they can take a hint from Musk, his free speech absolutism seems to come with a rather large ban hammer.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 24 2022, @06:44AM
by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday December 24 2022, @06:44AM (#1283815)
Problem is, cringe is standard operating procedure here on SoylentNews. It is called "disruption". If you dare to point out that horse paste is not a cure, or that overthrowing the Constitution of the United States to bring back Trumpoleon is not constitutional, well that is cringe. Janrinok is supporting Petain in the French elections, this year, only a 75 years too late. I really do believe that they do believe what they say, and that they deserve to die for the same.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 24 2022, @04:48PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday December 24 2022, @04:48PM (#1283856)
Project much? Telling someone to kill themselves is the ultimate cringe and shows that you are one of the filth posters. A quick check of the Venn diagram shows that you are 88% likely to be a Republican racist that simps for billionaires. Say goodnight sweety.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 20 2022, @10:19PM (13 children)
Interesting how many logged in users don't realize that Post as AC is still tagged to their account. Janrinok has been open about that recently, but obviously it should be clarified with some text under the button. For a supposed community site there is very little respect for the plebe users from staff.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 20 2022, @10:23PM (12 children)
Or the fact that the IP is actually tracked and quite easily de-hashed since the hash hasn't changed since the site launched. For protecting free speech this site has done a miserable job aside from allowing disgusting content, likely with the usual techy attitude that users are idiots that dessrve what they get if they do not understand the privacy measures needed even for a supposed non-tracking free speech website.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2022, @01:25AM (3 children)
This is why I always post as pure, unadulterated, AC. No log-in that links to an IP hash! Only downside is that I am constantly accused of being aristarchus. I don't think I even have his IP hash. Strange.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Monday January 02 2023, @03:18PM (2 children)
Every login, every connection, every page view, has an IP address and therefore has an IP hash - that is how the internet works.....
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 03 2023, @10:45AM (1 child)
He didn't say no IP hash, he said no log in that linked to an IP hash. Are you slow of reading comprehension, janrinok? I would get that looked at.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Tuesday January 03 2023, @01:24PM
Every time you contact the site you have an IP. Logged in users change their IPs just like ACs do. You give us just as much, or just as little, information with each of your contacts as anyone else does. You are all still paranoid about rainbow hash tables etc - which the site does not have or use. They have been useless after the widespread introduction of TOR, VPNs and IPv6 i.e since around 2017. Your fears are unfounded (unless you are in the USA where they seem to be very slow in introducing IPv6).
We don't care WHO you are or WHERE you are. But if you really want to be anonymous - get off the internet. Every connection tells the site you are connecting to something.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2022, @03:06PM (1 child)
How do you supposedly run the hash backwards to recover the IP?
You really should go back and understand how this works. CdrTaco explained this way back in 1998 or so as to why it was done and needed, and if you are that paranoid about posted AC comments being tied to your account, then change your IP address. Use a VPN for one but not the other, or if you are on dynamic DNS, refresh your IP. I'm surprised you think the site has the resources and the desire to want to back out the IPs (which even if one could, I don't believe the whole IP address is hashed anyway).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2022, @03:16PM
The old admin The Mighty Buzzard admitted it could be done. It is trivial if you know the hash and algorithm to then build a table of all hashed IPs. The hash seed has never been changed per Janrinok. For a pro-privacy site it is pretty horrifying how these simple details are not explained, and the "your IP is never recorded" is at best a grey lie. Supposedly true AC comments have the hashed IP dropped after a couple weeks, but logged in user comments have the IP hash stored forever even if you click "post as AC" which is another grey lie.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Thursday December 22 2022, @09:20AM (5 children)
Why are you replying to your own post as though you are a different AC?
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 22 2022, @05:56PM (4 children)
There can only be one. We are anonymous. We are legion. We are Anonymous Cowards. Expect us.
(Seriously, I am really starting to think that janrinok has gone "round the bend". Replying to my own post? See above. )
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 24 2022, @01:51AM (3 children)
No jani was right, though I was not trying to post as a different AC like the paranoid boomer likes to imagine. TOR is not under my control, and jani the genius should know since he has pointed out many times that the invalid form keys are likely due to the TOR ip changing before hitting submit.
Personally I can't believe posting the broad technical details about how SN fails privacy was modded troll. Then I remember that SN is not pro-privacy, and is just a shit site prividing playsible deniability so white supremacists like Runaway1956 can post their suggestions for political terrorism. It is quite clear.
Now what other info might be leaking that makes jani so sure of his claims? Was it just the short time period between posts, paired with the lowest ever visitor counts? SNR much better when only a few dozen people bother to visit these days?
Ah well, I thought about registering an account now that they finally banmed ACs most everywhere, but the lack of backbone to actually enforce the rules combined with the attacks I receive for be too similar to he-who-shall-not-be-aristarchused leaves a nasty taste in my mouth. Can't have it both ways, pure free speech with the shit posts that go with it, or limited speech where dumb ass filth gets users a ban.
Maybe they can take a hint from Musk, his free speech absolutism seems to come with a rather large ban hammer.
Sheeeeeit son, maybe they should just look to Fox News for what happens when you let white supremacist propagandists run amuck!
https://reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/ztr5a9/so_glad_that_fox_news_was_the_most_watched_cable/ [reddit.com]
^there is that form key error, at least it gives the paranoid boi another data point B^)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 24 2022, @02:52AM (2 children)
Thanks for the cringe, go get euthanized in Canada.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 24 2022, @06:44AM
Problem is, cringe is standard operating procedure here on SoylentNews. It is called "disruption". If you dare to point out that horse paste is not a cure, or that overthrowing the Constitution of the United States to bring back Trumpoleon is not constitutional, well that is cringe. Janrinok is supporting Petain in the French elections, this year, only a 75 years too late. I really do believe that they do believe what they say, and that they deserve to die for the same.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 24 2022, @04:48PM
Project much? Telling someone to kill themselves is the ultimate cringe and shows that you are one of the filth posters. A quick check of the Venn diagram shows that you are 88% likely to be a Republican racist that simps for billionaires. Say goodnight sweety.