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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2022, @01:57AM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2022, @01:57AM (#1283437)

    At the risk of getting in trouble for being off-topic or saying things that offend people, I am going to suggest a few things.

    First, while bugs are being fixed and the cadence of stories is slowed, why not post blank stories [soylentnews.org] where users can discuss anything they want to talk about? I propose posting one of these every 2-3 days and allowing pure AC posting in blank stories. If blank stories fill up with spam or political bickering, then perhaps don't post them as frequently when that happens. But you might find that you also get a lot of random but interesting discussions.

    Second, regarding AC posting, there is another way forward. Instead of tracking ACs, you could reopen pure AC posting, then give editors unlimited mod points to spam mod people who crapflood or habitually disrupt discussions. Meanwhile, encourage users to focus on modding up good comments.

    Third, I suggest adding a link to tip the editor for every story, where users can donate a bit of money to any staff member for their work. I think there are enough generous people in the community who might be willing to directly contribute a few dollars to staff for their work. This would be different from the subscriptions in that it wouldn't fund the site's expenses but instead pay the staff for their time. That might encourage more people to become staff members, which could increase the number of stories posted and grow the site.

    Fourth, I suggest increasing the karma bonus given to users whose stories require minimal edits. One option would be to run contextual ads on the site, which could generate revenue. However, users who submit stories that require minimal editing would have the option of disabling ads for awhile in exchange for their positive contributions. The revenue from ads could be used for existing costs or perhaps as stipends for users who work behind the scenes and wouldn't be as likely to get tips.

    I understand that the second option requires a bit of work, and the third or fourth are more complex than that. However, I hope you'll consider these ideas, which I am suggesting to you with the very best of intentions.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2022, @08:02AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 21 2022, @08:02AM (#1283455)

    Check out the journal of nostyle, https://soylentnews.org/~nostyle/journal/ [soylentnews.org]

    He has been posting mostly blank journals and accepting unregistered AC comments. It remains an obscure corner of the site, but it is almost what you are (first) requesting.

  • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Thursday December 22 2022, @09:19AM (7 children)

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 22 2022, @09:19AM (#1283573) Journal

    then give editors unlimited mod points to spam mod people who crapflood or habitually disrupt discussions

    Which is simply moving the burden to the few remaining active editors. How do we cover 24hrs a day to prevent child pornography or widespread spamming? Are you offering to help with this task?

    "habitually disrupt discussions" was exactly what a small number of ACs did. We spent months trying to control it with moderation but the only way to prevent it was to remove AC access to the main stories.

    ACs can come back on the front page when they are accountable while remaining anonymous.

    Third, I suggest adding a link to tip the editor for every story, where users can donate a bit of money to any staff member for their work. I think there are enough generous people in the community who might be willing to directly contribute a few dollars to staff for their work.

    That's a kind thought - but personally I would rather it simply went to a subscription. How will you know how much work people are doing behind the scenes? Is it only the names that reach the front page that will benefit?

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 22 2022, @05:53PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 22 2022, @05:53PM (#1283612)

      ACs can come back on the front page when they are accountable while remaining anonymous.

      Thus it ever has been in Her His Majesty's Royal Navy! Keep calm, and beatings will continue until morale improves!

      Oh, the humanities! Oh, tempura! Oh, the massive Bowling Green Disruptions!

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 23 2022, @09:21AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 23 2022, @09:21AM (#1283699)

        Mr. Christian! Fletcher! Snap to it! Right proud and Bristol fashion!

    • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 01 2023, @09:37AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 01 2023, @09:37AM (#1284603)

      Which is simply moving the burden to the few remaining active editors. How do we cover 24hrs a day to prevent child pornography or widespread spamming? Are you offering to help with this task?

      Um, no? Spamming? Do you not mean banning posters critical of the right-wing nut-job racists? And disabling any new accounts? And insulting everyone who wants to make soylentnews a better place, and defend freeze peach?

      Do it yourself, janis, you have made your bed, chosen your path, and crapped in the punchbowl. Your mess, clean it up or pull the plug.

      • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Monday January 02 2023, @03:15PM

        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 02 2023, @03:15PM (#1284781) Journal

        And disabling any new accounts?

        https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/01/02/1243230 [soylentnews.org]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 03 2023, @04:13PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 03 2023, @04:13PM (#1284966)

        Nonsense, and you know it. I don't blindly agree with janrinok, and I emailed him some concerns this morning. But janrinok is not the problem here. You are.

        AC posting is disabled on the front page because you were spamming. You were free to criticize the alt-right as you saw fit. Those journals and comments are still available for anyone to read. They haven't been censored. When you actually criticized the alt-right, many people agreed with you and supported you. But you haven't criticized the alt-right in a long time. Instead, you've developed an obsession with Runaway and janrinok, and you spend your time attacking them. Your personal attacks against Runaway do not constitute a criticism of the alt-right.

        If you had actually stuck to criticizing the alt-right instead of obsessing over Runaway, you wouldn't have been banned. You used to post about things like critical race theory, and many people agreed with your posts. Even people who disagreed with you supported your freedom to post about those topics. Even after you doxxed Runaway, he supported your freedom to discuss politics and didn't call for you to be permanently banned.

        Your inability to create sock puppet accounts does not mean that new accounts are unwelcome. It means that you are permanently banned for doxxing and spamming.

        I've been very critical of Runaway for posting racist comments. Nobody ever censored me or banned me for criticizing Runaway's opinions or the alt-right. Most of the time, I got modded up for doing so. While I have raised criticisms of this site at times, I have never had a valid reason to claim that my criticism of the alt-right or Runaway's opinions was being censored. I have been free to express my criticisms, and so are you.

        Repeating the same lies over and over again is spam. Repetitive posting is considered spam, and that's exactly what you're doing. You've earned your spam mods.

        You are no martyr. Stop pretending to be one. Janrinok isn't the problem here. You are.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 03 2023, @08:32PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 03 2023, @08:32PM (#1285035)

          Inigo Montoya: Who are you?
          Man in Black: No one of consequence.
          Inigo Montoya : I must know...
          Man in Black : Get used to disappointment.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 07 2023, @07:19AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 07 2023, @07:19AM (#1285632)

          I don't blindly agree with janrinok, and I emailed him some concerns this morning.

          So, you are "special"? On the "inside"? In the SoylentNews admin daisychain?