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  • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Wednesday January 04 2023, @07:51PM (13 children)

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 04 2023, @07:51PM (#1285154) Journal

    Now there is a BOT creating thousands of sock puppets and naming Aristarchus? Why would Aristarchus do such a thing and then deny it? I've seen accounts that actually seem like the original Aristarchus, and many that use Aristarchus in the name to spew racism.

    I think that you are confused? The thousands of fake accounts are just that - fake accounts which are being created by a bot. The sock puppet accounts number between 600-700. You don't even know what you are talking about - yet you will glibly admit to abusing somebody else's user name. How much trust should we put in what you say? I can answer that - none.

    You say it isn't aristarchus. He has compromised his original email address - the one which was used to create the 'aristarchus' account - and which can be traced to the creation of hundreds of sock puppets. When it suits him, he claims he is not aristarchus because he has an alternative username - or more correctly over 600 usernames. It doesn't matter which name he wishes to use, he is not welcome on this site. Nor is anyone else who behaves or acts like him.

    Now either Azuma Hazuki stated to somebody who was abusing her name "to fuck off and stop using her name" or she didn't. Yet you felt that you had every right and her implied permission by her not responding to your 'requests': I didn't think Azuma would mind and asked a few times in replies to her comments if the account should just be terminated. How unclear was her original response that made you think that what you were doing was OK? And you have just admitted to sock-puppetry yourself. If you act like aristarchus you will be treated like aristarchus.

    pointed out for anyone that cares how easily Soylent News can obtain real IPs while pretending they are securely hashed

    We don't have to bother - every IP address arrives at our server unhashed, either IPv4 or IPv6 format. We already HAVE the IP address - why would we bother to hash it if we wanted to use it? The hashing is NOT a security feature as I have explained several times previously. CmdrTaco found it easier to work with hashes in the code than with IP addresses and, like us, he didn't see any reason for having them lying around in the database. If you object to IP addresses then get off the internet because that is how it works. And let me see someone present a rainbow look-up table that works for both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses. We haven't got one - the NSA might have one but if that is what worries you then again you shouldn't really be posting on here should you?

    However, can you substantiate a single element of what you have written? You haven't done so up to now. Yet you have admitted that, if not him, then you are no different from him. And you will be treated like him.

    it has become clear that you Janrinok are either a fool or part of a rightwing campaign.

    Ah, so that is it - we are back to the right-wing accusations. You are convinced of my political beliefs yet I argued publicly against ANY political topics being discussed on this site back in the very early days. Both sides have been treated in exactly the same way. They have received the same punishments for the same abuses. All of aristarchus' posts and submissions are still there to be seen. He has not been treated unfairly.

    So are you aristarchus, or are you Azuma Hazuki 2.0 today, or are you somebody else entirely? You know, I simply don't care who you are.

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 05 2023, @02:18AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 05 2023, @02:18AM (#1285221)

    Let's go, janrinok!

    [I think he is already mostly gone. aristarchus has destroyed him! ]

    Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.
    You mad, jan?

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 06 2023, @02:42AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 06 2023, @02:42AM (#1285408)

    You say it isn't aristarchus. He has compromised his original email address - the one which was used to create the 'aristarchus' account - and which can be traced to the creation of hundreds of sock puppets.

    This is a blatant lie, or an attempt by janrinok to dox the original aristarchus. Lying Liars and the lies they tell.

    • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday January 06 2023, @04:12AM (7 children)

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 06 2023, @04:12AM (#1285417) Journal
      Account 17903.
      • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 06 2023, @05:55AM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 06 2023, @05:55AM (#1285427)

        Search says no such user found. Fault of search, or fault of janrinok? Secret, so we will never know. Are there any other editors we could talk to? I hate to go all Karen on janrinok, but it is quite evident that he is no longer mentally competent for the task at hand. And, he luvs him some Runaway!

        • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday January 06 2023, @08:12AM (5 children)

          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 06 2023, @08:12AM (#1285440) Journal

          Accounts: 2645 (aristarchus) and 17903 (SillyJanrinok) were both created using the same email address. I will not compromise the email address here. They both exist in the database and both accounts have been banned.

          Account 17903 was created on 2 Aug 2022.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 06 2023, @08:54AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 06 2023, @08:54AM (#1285444)

            So there are at least two banned users on SoylentNews? Nice that you do not directly dox anyone, Mr. Admin Janrinok.

            • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday January 06 2023, @09:05AM

              by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 06 2023, @09:05AM (#1285446) Journal

              Only 1 person is banned permanently - all of his accounts are eventually banned but initially they are only disabled by software. It still requires an admin action to ban the account.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 06 2023, @09:05AM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 06 2023, @09:05AM (#1285447)

            The user account aristarchus on SoylentNews had this email associated
            with it. A web user from 2a01:cb08:89ef:1b00:7512:8cd8:3f7a:7c8 has just changed it to
            janrinok+aristarchus@protonmail.com.

            janrinok gets all my email, now. So why did he create a sockpuppet account for a banned user, you may ask?

            • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday January 06 2023, @09:18AM (1 child)

              by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 06 2023, @09:18AM (#1285448) Journal

              I don't get any of your email. We change the email address that we hold for your account so that any emails that WE ARE SENDING are rerouted so that you do not receive them. Your sock puppet accounts can request a new password, but you will never receive it.

              Accessing your email accounts would be an offence under US law and elsewhere.

              • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 07 2023, @07:25AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 07 2023, @07:25AM (#1285633)

                Finally, janrinok admits to felonies under US Law. Runaway to follow. Both of you are guilty of conspiracy to commit illegal banning of a member of a news aggregations site. Stand by to receive summons, under pain of penalty.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 07 2023, @08:27PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 07 2023, @08:27PM (#1285725)

    The answers to your question are in the comment, but I'll spell it out for you since you so really very truly don't care :|

    I am not aristarchus and I did not create the AH2.0 account. I simply took over the account to add some sane moderations, and a few journals critical of right wing nonsense. Some comments made as AC, and a few where I forgot to click post as AC.

    I had one account I created sometime after the site launched that I stopped using after seeing the abuse of admins and staff with unmasking users and handing down punishments for aristarchus that most here thought were aristarchus whining, such as the moderation ban, figuring his karma was what did it. Turns out that modban was real as another staffer figured out.

    So I am no other user that anyone gives a shit about and the creator of the AH2.0 account reset the password and controls it now. I take you to task for the lies, half truths, and blatant abuses of power, and for that I'm accused of so much. Your information is incomplete, you make many false accusations, and barring my good sense I've explained my part in this dumb drama.

    So fix yourself, build a real community of trust, accountability, and high standards (duh racisssmmmm) if that is truly something you value. Even now there are enough good users left, and at least you implemented the user accounts only rule which will help with the worst content abuses. However that goes against the pure free speech ethos, and the ban of aristarchus also goes against those values. So update the site policies to match your actual governance, and if you ban one user for publishing public information then you should ban others engaging in stochastic terrorism or spreading bigotry. Or unban aristarchus, though I personally would prefer that ban stay if the doxxing really came from that account along with banning the bigots and terrorists. The hypocrisy is a huge issue, along with power abuse and mysterious database wipes.

    Really wonder what this site is actually about, none of these problems make sense and the blatant lie that you care about privacy while storing IPs forever and unmasking some AC posts is hard to get past.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 08 2023, @04:14AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 08 2023, @04:14AM (#1285779)

      Your comment is ignorant. It's laughable to say that I don't care about privacy concerns. In fact, I emailed janrinok within the past week to raise privacy concerns, including about the duration that IP hashes are retained. The fact is, janrinok and I had a polite and civil discussion about my concerns. I appreciate him writing me several emails, which I'm sure was a significant time commitment. I chose not to post my concerns in the comments because I didn't think it was the appropriate forum. I don't think adversarial behavior toward the staff is the correct way to raise concerns. I've sent multiple emails to the staff about concerns I have, and I'm quite certain they haven't always been very happy with me for things I've said.

      I'm not ignoring privacy concerns. But those concerns don't justify creating sock puppets, abusing the spam mod, doxxing, and other abuses. Yes, there is racist spam on this site. But that doesn't mean you should be using the Azuma Hazuki 2.0 account. You could have created a separate account for that purpose, and you've never actually explained why you needed to use the Azuma Hazuki 2.0 account. By the way, there are many sock puppets [soylentnews.org] using the Azuma Hazuki username.

      If you want changes to how this site retains data, email the staff to let them know you're not satisfied with the policy and want changes. But don't use it as an excuse to break the rules or harass users.