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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 07 2023, @10:36AM
(5 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday January 07 2023, @10:36AM (#1285654)
Evidence? None at all - you are just repeating your own claims.
Learned from the best! SN admins! Sure aristarchus sockpuppeted! Of course he doxxed some unknown goat farmer! And, most damning, aristarchus disrupted discussions! This I all know, because janrinok tells me so!
Both aristarchus and Runaway1956 created sock puppets - they were seen and identified by numerous community members. The SN comments by community members identifying them are still there for you to see.
The doxing was in aristarchus' own submissions, under his own username. That is hardly circumstantial and was clearly attributable to the person responsible for it. The doxing is the ONLY reason that aristarchus was banned.
I don't care what usernames are disrupting the discussions - they are unwelcome and will all be treated the same. There was more than one real account responsible - although usually posting as AC - so all ACs were prevented from commenting on the front pages. There was no alternative - there is only 1 AC account.
-- I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 07 2023, @11:44AM
(3 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday January 07 2023, @11:44AM (#1285662)
Aristarchus posted a comment in reply to Runaway, which contained what appears to be Runaway's real name. Runaway has indicated which county he lives in, and this repeated at least on one occasion by the aristarchus account. Given Runaway's name and county of residence, a search of properties from the assessor's office identifies a single individual. This amounts to doxxing, and it was done in a comment posted by the aristarchus account.
It doesn't really matter whether the individual really is Runaway. The comment has targeted a single individual for harassment. Runaway did not provide his name in any of his comments, but it was disclosed by the aristarchus account. Again, whether it's actually Runaway is irrelevant. The fact that a single individual has been targeted by aristarchus is a form of intimidation, threatening, and harassment. There is no doubt about who is responsible, because this was all done from the aristarchus account.
I am not a staff member, but I have done some searching on my own, and I have seen the evidence with my own eyes. I will not link to the evidence because I do not wish to encourage further harassment, but it is still present in the site's comments. Let's just say it's not too hard to find with a bit of searching.
The individual behind the aristarchus account had better hope that he has been careful enough to cover your own tracks. If anyone can identify who was behind the aristarchus account, if they go to law enforcement, there might well be some serious prison time involved.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 08 2023, @09:17AM
(2 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Sunday January 08 2023, @09:17AM (#1285802)
Let me get this straight:
Aristarchus posted a comment in reply to Runaway, which contained what appears to be Runaway's real name. Runaway has indicated which county he lives in,
So, you took one piece of info from a reply to Runaway1956, and another from Runaway his own self, and you doxxed the poor bastard dead to rights? You think if it was that easy, anyone could do it, like even a House Republican. And this is a crime, how? Since you have evidently committed it. And you didn't even share!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 08 2023, @09:53AM
(1 child)
by Anonymous Coward
on Sunday January 08 2023, @09:53AM (#1285806)
Holy shit, I didn't realize you were this stupid.
The issue isn't that I looked up the identity of the person aristarchus purports is Runaway. There's nothing illegal about a public records search. I haven't posted any laws because I haven't posted anyone's personal information, let alone inciting harassment against them.
However, Runaway's name is not readily determined from his comments. Aristarchus went to some lengths to obtain that information. Moreover, instead of merely searching for the information, aristarchus chose to post it publicly. Aristarchus' intent is to incite harassment of the individual whom he believes is Runaway. The name of this individual would not have been known to me except that aristarchus chose to post it publicly in a comment under the aristarchus username, posted it a few times as an anonymous coward, and even created a sock puppet with the name. Again, this information would not have been available to be if aristarchus had not posted it publicly to see.
If anyone finds out who is behind the aristarchus account and turns the information over to law enforcement, aristarchus may well be looking at some serious prison time for harassment, threats, and attempts to incite violence. I don't believe your excuses, and you can bet the police won't, either.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 08 2023, @10:50AM
by Anonymous Coward
on Sunday January 08 2023, @10:50AM (#1285808)
Local police, FBI, and other law enforcement would not care about generic online harassment and indistinct threats, even if they had all the evidence in the world and the perpetrators' identities handed to them. The bar for prosecuting these things is high because of the First Amendment, and they have bigger fish to fry. Throw in true threats or swattings and they might start to care.
This is for the communities themselves to take care of, and SN has. Sort of. aristarchus is still using the site every day like the boring troll he is.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 07 2023, @10:36AM (5 children)
Learned from the best! SN admins! Sure aristarchus sockpuppeted! Of course he doxxed some unknown goat farmer! And, most damning, aristarchus disrupted discussions! This I all know, because janrinok tells me so!
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday January 07 2023, @11:14AM
Both aristarchus and Runaway1956 created sock puppets - they were seen and identified by numerous community members. The SN comments by community members identifying them are still there for you to see.
The doxing was in aristarchus' own submissions, under his own username. That is hardly circumstantial and was clearly attributable to the person responsible for it. The doxing is the ONLY reason that aristarchus was banned.
I don't care what usernames are disrupting the discussions - they are unwelcome and will all be treated the same. There was more than one real account responsible - although usually posting as AC - so all ACs were prevented from commenting on the front pages. There was no alternative - there is only 1 AC account.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 07 2023, @11:44AM (3 children)
Aristarchus posted a comment in reply to Runaway, which contained what appears to be Runaway's real name. Runaway has indicated which county he lives in, and this repeated at least on one occasion by the aristarchus account. Given Runaway's name and county of residence, a search of properties from the assessor's office identifies a single individual. This amounts to doxxing, and it was done in a comment posted by the aristarchus account.
It doesn't really matter whether the individual really is Runaway. The comment has targeted a single individual for harassment. Runaway did not provide his name in any of his comments, but it was disclosed by the aristarchus account. Again, whether it's actually Runaway is irrelevant. The fact that a single individual has been targeted by aristarchus is a form of intimidation, threatening, and harassment. There is no doubt about who is responsible, because this was all done from the aristarchus account.
I am not a staff member, but I have done some searching on my own, and I have seen the evidence with my own eyes. I will not link to the evidence because I do not wish to encourage further harassment, but it is still present in the site's comments. Let's just say it's not too hard to find with a bit of searching.
The individual behind the aristarchus account had better hope that he has been careful enough to cover your own tracks. If anyone can identify who was behind the aristarchus account, if they go to law enforcement, there might well be some serious prison time involved.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 08 2023, @09:17AM (2 children)
Let me get this straight:
So, you took one piece of info from a reply to Runaway1956, and another from Runaway his own self, and you doxxed the poor bastard dead to rights? You think if it was that easy, anyone could do it, like even a House Republican. And this is a crime, how? Since you have evidently committed it. And you didn't even share!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 08 2023, @09:53AM (1 child)
Holy shit, I didn't realize you were this stupid.
The issue isn't that I looked up the identity of the person aristarchus purports is Runaway. There's nothing illegal about a public records search. I haven't posted any laws because I haven't posted anyone's personal information, let alone inciting harassment against them.
However, Runaway's name is not readily determined from his comments. Aristarchus went to some lengths to obtain that information. Moreover, instead of merely searching for the information, aristarchus chose to post it publicly. Aristarchus' intent is to incite harassment of the individual whom he believes is Runaway. The name of this individual would not have been known to me except that aristarchus chose to post it publicly in a comment under the aristarchus username, posted it a few times as an anonymous coward, and even created a sock puppet with the name. Again, this information would not have been available to be if aristarchus had not posted it publicly to see.
If anyone finds out who is behind the aristarchus account and turns the information over to law enforcement, aristarchus may well be looking at some serious prison time for harassment, threats, and attempts to incite violence. I don't believe your excuses, and you can bet the police won't, either.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 08 2023, @10:50AM
Local police, FBI, and other law enforcement would not care about generic online harassment and indistinct threats, even if they had all the evidence in the world and the perpetrators' identities handed to them. The bar for prosecuting these things is high because of the First Amendment, and they have bigger fish to fry. Throw in true threats or swattings and they might start to care.
This is for the communities themselves to take care of, and SN has. Sort of. aristarchus is still using the site every day like the boring troll he is.