It's official: France bans short haul domestic flights in favour of train travel:
France has been given the green light to ban short haul domestic flights.
The European Commission has approved the move which will abolish flights between cities that are linked by a train journey of less than 2.5 hours.
[...] France is also cracking down on the use of private jets for short journeys in a bid to make transport greener and fairer for the population.
Transport minister Clément Beaune said the country could no longer tolerate the super rich using private planes while the public are making cutbacks to deal with the energy crisis and climate change.
[...] The ban on short-haul flights will be valid for three years, after which it must be reassessed by the Commission.
"[This] is a major step forward in the policy of reducing greenhouse gas emissions," transport minister Beaune said in a press release.
[...] Sarah Fayolle, Greenpeace France transport campaign manager, told Euronews that there were both "negative and positive aspects" to the European Commission's decision given that only three routes are affected.
"It's going in the right direction, but the initial measure is one that's (not very) ambitious. We must go even further," she said.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday December 25 2022, @04:17PM (11 children)
Webster defines the word you used: average, perfectly.
A distribution is almost always a better characterization of a statistical process, but again, you used that incorrectly as well, giving two numbers and failing to define what distribution is being used and how, probably because your source did as well.
A normal distribution is the most commonly used, and abused, to the point that a common subspecies of layman treats it as the only distribution.
When using a range of the normal distribution, the most commonly abused range is 95% confidence, or very roughly +/-2SD, but assuming this is both prone to misinterpretation and extremely inappropriate for high risk applications like potentially spreading radioactive isotopes across large highly populated regions and or farmland.
If you are using a distribution, both the shape of the distribution and the confidence limits should be specified along with the bounds numbers.
But, if you are ok with not really knowing the risks of these things you are pontificating about, that's fine for you, you have a better idea of what you are talking about than the average bear, still no real grasp, but better than average.
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday December 25 2022, @06:24PM (10 children)
And wrong. Please don't forget that this time.
Should any of that ever be in error, please be sure to tell me. In the meantime, I'm just not interested in your criticism.
And completely irrelevant to our discussion since that isn't a problem here.
Remember we were speaking of something that was more than two orders of magnitude off. It's not going to be a problem with a slight increase in the number of standard deviations we choose to take.
You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday December 25 2022, @06:59PM (9 children)
>a problem with a slight increase in the number of standard deviations we choose to take.
What's your idea of "slight" differences from 2 standard deviations?
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday December 25 2022, @07:07PM (8 children)
20 standard deviations.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday December 25 2022, @08:51PM (7 children)
As accurate as you need to be, I see.
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday December 25 2022, @10:12PM (6 children)
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday December 26 2022, @12:09AM (5 children)
20 standard deviations is outrageous, in any field.
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday December 26 2022, @04:20AM (4 children)
And yet, quite adequate for this task. We don't need to know the precision of the risk when the order of magnitude is more than sufficient.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday December 26 2022, @02:02PM (3 children)
Learn something today:
https://www.scribbr.com/statistics/standard-deviation/#:~:text=The%20standard%20deviation%20is%20the,clustered%20close%20to%20the%20mean. [scribbr.com]
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday December 26 2022, @04:20PM (2 children)
Similarly, I can evaluate orders of magnitude risks without requiring significant precision. That's why I'm not concerned about a few standard deviations when I find that a risk is more than two orders of magnitude short of being a real problem. Conversely, imagine if I told you that a risk was negligible because it was 9.7% instead of a back of envelope calculation of 10%? That precision make you feel better?
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday December 27 2022, @12:39AM (1 child)
When speaking of 20SD, that's - generously - over 10 sigma from the mean:
http://www.aleph.se/andart/archives/2009/09/ten_sigma_numerics_and_finance.html [aleph.se]
1.529245*10^-23
Ain't nobody got that kind of data on much of anything in the real universe.
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday December 27 2022, @03:21AM
And as I have already observed, 10 sigma from the mean is not significant for the parameters I looked at because they were two orders of magnitude shy of being relevant.