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posted by janrinok on Sunday December 11 2022, @05:41PM   Printer-friendly
from the walking-will-be-mandatory-soon dept.

It's official: France bans short haul domestic flights in favour of train travel:

France has been given the green light to ban short haul domestic flights.

The European Commission has approved the move which will abolish flights between cities that are linked by a train journey of less than 2.5 hours.

[...] France is also cracking down on the use of private jets for short journeys in a bid to make transport greener and fairer for the population.

Transport minister Clément Beaune said the country could no longer tolerate the super rich using private planes while the public are making cutbacks to deal with the energy crisis and climate change.

[...] The ban on short-haul flights will be valid for three years, after which it must be reassessed by the Commission.

"[This] is a major step forward in the policy of reducing greenhouse gas emissions," transport minister Beaune said in a press release.

[...] Sarah Fayolle, Greenpeace France transport campaign manager, told Euronews that there were both "negative and positive aspects" to the European Commission's decision given that only three routes are affected.

"It's going in the right direction, but the initial measure is one that's (not very) ambitious. We must go even further," she said.


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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday December 25 2022, @10:10PM (6 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday December 25 2022, @10:10PM (#1283968) Journal

    Point is, there is a systematic overconfidence in "The Science" which hurts the credibility that science deserves.

    Which is irrelevant here. We have copious evidence of the actual incidence of asteroid impacts over a relevant range.

    When a colleague read me his "mathematical proof" that the 8 bit checksum on the company's flagship product communication protocol would "protect against errors with a rate of one erroneous communication passing unblocked per so many million years" I, on my first day at the new company, expressed my scepticism but left it alone. Less than a year later we were gathered into a room to "solve the problem" which was causing erroneous (and painful) programming to pass with dozens of reports from the field in the prior 90 days.

    With math, you have to look at the initial conditions. Here, the likely problem was two-fold: underestimating error rates in the first place, and ignoring correlation errors - anomalies can wipe out large runs of bytes, not just one.

    Here, we have no significant analogy. An asteroid or comet only brings a fixed amount of mass. A data anomaly can generate a lot of errors with no real upper bound. And as I noted before, we have a good idea of how much mass is brought to an impact and they usually come in fast enough (20+ km/s) that tidal forces don't have a significant effect.

  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday December 25 2022, @10:40PM (5 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Sunday December 25 2022, @10:40PM (#1283973)

    >We have copious evidence of the actual incidence of asteroid impacts over a relevant range.

    If you haven't gathered: I disagree, for all the aforementioned reasons.

    >Here, the likely problem was two-fold

    In my estimation, after working with the expert witness for over two years, the actual problem was a desire to demonstrate what his employer wanted to hear: this won't be a problem until after you have sold all your shares. Like so many other similar demonstrations, the flaws were rooted in willful ignorance of relevant information, and he was proven painfully (the patients did experience highly painful direct neurostimulation, 3x the amplitude approved for use in humans) incorrect in a short time.

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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday December 26 2022, @04:06PM (4 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 26 2022, @04:06PM (#1284019) Journal

      In my estimation, after working with the expert witness for over two years, the actual problem was a desire to demonstrate what his employer wanted to hear: this won't be a problem until after you have sold all your shares. Like so many other similar demonstrations, the flaws were rooted in willful ignorance of relevant information, and he was proven painfully (the patients did experience highly painful direct neurostimulation, 3x the amplitude approved for use in humans) incorrect in a short time.

      Then that doesn't sound like a relevant example. The various pieces of evidence I've mentioned in this thread weren't driven by wishful thinking/willful ignorance.

      • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday December 26 2022, @08:44PM (3 children)

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday December 26 2022, @08:44PM (#1284048)

        >weren't driven by wishful thinking/willful ignorance.

        Do you actually know this, or just assume that academians tell the truth because... because?

        The more I learn, the lower the ratio of bonafide trustable information becomes. There is still good information out there, but it is far more common to learn a trusted source was not worthy than vice versa.

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        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday December 26 2022, @09:22PM (2 children)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 26 2022, @09:22PM (#1284058) Journal

          Do you actually know this, or just assume that academians tell the truth because... because?

          Know this. And why wouldn't academicians tell the truth here? When there are problems with truth-telling, it's invariably due to conflict of interest. Here, you present no such conflict and just assert some radical doubt narrative without a reason for it.

          • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday December 27 2022, @12:36AM (1 child)

            by JoeMerchant (3937) on Tuesday December 27 2022, @12:36AM (#1284070)

            >When there are problems with truth-telling, it's invariably due to conflict of interest.

            We can start with publish or perish. Follow that up with "my grant proposal is sexier than your grant proposal" and on and on, academia is anything but perfect and the conflicts of interest can be as shallow as: my ego won't allow any other result.

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            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday December 27 2022, @04:14AM

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 27 2022, @04:14AM (#1284089) Journal

              We can start with publish or perish.

              So?

              Follow that up with "my grant proposal is sexier than your grant proposal" and on and on, academia is anything but perfect and the conflicts of interest can be as shallow as: my ego won't allow any other result.

              So no actual evidence, of course. The problem with the narrative is that you still have an allegedly too low prediction rate for asteroid impacts by two orders of magnitude and somehow that's supposed to be sexy? Maybe we'll get a better narrative if we pull your other finger?