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posted by Blackmoore on Tuesday December 16 2014, @08:30PM   Printer-friendly
from the too-many-to-count dept.

The Center for American Progress reports

Congress [just] passed a bill that could result in complete, national data on police shootings and other deaths in law enforcement custody.

Right now, we have nothing close to that. Police departments are not required to report information about police to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. Some do, others don't, others submit it some years and not others or submit potentially incomplete numbers, making it near-impossible to know how many people police kill every year. Based on the figures that are reported to the federal government, ProPublica recently concluded that young black men are 21 times more likely to be killed by police than whites.

Under the bill awaiting Obama's signature, states receiving federal funds would be required to report every quarter on deaths in law enforcement custody. This includes not [only] those who are killed by police during a stop, arrest, or other interaction. It also includes those who die in jail or prison. [Additionally,] it requires details about these shootings including gender, race, as well as at least some circumstances surrounding the death.

 
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  • (Score: 2) by frojack on Tuesday December 16 2014, @09:51PM

    by frojack (1554) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday December 16 2014, @09:51PM (#126633) Journal

    Its probably hype, and totally misleading nonsense.

    Ask any officer in the US. You fire your gun in the line of duty, and you are off the streets on desk assignment until the issue is completely investigated.

    In most states, it requires another agency to conduct the investigation. In big departments, they have their own internal affairs unit doing the investigation. These are ALL reported to many different places, but not always to the FBI.

    Go read the second link again and count the number of weasel words...

    A St. Louis Post-Dispatch report this week on police shooting data found that out of some 18,000 U.S. police departments, only 1,100 — or six percent of all departments — reported a single fatal police shooting that was considered justifiable between 2005 and 2012. We don’t know whether those who didn’t report simply opted not to report that information, or didn’t have any shootings.

    Most police departments go years, decades even, without shooting anybody.

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  • (Score: 2) by jasassin on Tuesday December 16 2014, @11:03PM

    by jasassin (3566) <jasassin@gmail.com> on Tuesday December 16 2014, @11:03PM (#126655) Homepage Journal

    Ask any officer in the US. You fire your gun in the line of duty, and you are off the streets on desk assignment until the issue is completely investigated.

    First, I don't talk to the police, unless it's this "Am I being detained or am I free to go?". Second, it's not against the law for cops to lie to you. Why would I believe anything a cop says?

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  • (Score: 3) by wantkitteh on Wednesday December 17 2014, @12:30PM

    by wantkitteh (3362) on Wednesday December 17 2014, @12:30PM (#126829) Homepage Journal

    We don’t know whether those who didn’t report simply opted not to report that information, or didn’t have any shootings.

    ...does not equate to...

    Most police departments go years, decades even, without shooting anybody.

    The simple fact that there isn't a piece of paper with "zero fatalities this year ftw beer and donuts all round!" written on it shows a major ongoing problem with fatality reporting in the US. It took me 30 seconds refining my search terms on Google to come up with those figures for the UK going back 10 years.

    https://www.ipcc.gov.uk/page/deaths-during-or-following-police-contact [ipcc.gov.uk]