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https://www.trinitydesktop.org/newsentry.php?entry=2014.12.16
The Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE) development team is pleased to announce the immediate availability of the new TDE R14.0.0 release. The Trinity Desktop Environment is a complete software desktop environment designed for Unix-like operating systems, intended for computer users preferring a traditional desktop model, and is free/libre software.
Unlike previous releases TDE R14.0.0 has been in development for over two years. This extended development period has allowed us to create a better, more stable and more feature-rich product than previous TDE releases. R14 is brimming with new features, such as a new hardware manager based on udev (HAL is no longer required), full network-manager 0.9 support, a brand new compositor (compton), built-in threading support, and much more!
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 17 2014, @09:41PM
[Unofficial] XP SP4
Heh. That takes me back a lot of years.
"Unofficial Windows 98SE Service Pack 2.0.1"
who wants to keep a 14 year old OS
That would be someone who isn't even slightly aware and thinks he needs to spend more money to move forward.
There are people who don't have a single penny extra to spend on newer hardware and who still think that the M$ treadmill is the only game in town.[1]
Meanwhile, the city fathers of Munich handed out thousands of plastic disks containing gratis and libre Ubuntu Linux.
Bootable Linux media (from which the OS, including the GUI and all the included apps, can be run without installing anything) would quickly dispel that silly myth, but those folks have to be alerted to that.
...and people like you aren't about to tell them how to do things without spending money.
Puppy Linux continues to be popular because, out of the box, it accomplishes all the tasks that most people need to do--with an ISO download that is still less than 200MB and it will run on absolutely ancient hardware.
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What Linux needs badly is comprehensive driver testing
What Linux needs is for people to stop giving good money to bad hardware vendors who provide lousy support.
PEOPLE, STOP GIVING YOUR CASH TO THE BINARY-BLOB-ONLY LEECHES.
...and the Linux Driver Project does an amazing job, given the resources they have.
Linux continues to support more devices than any other OS [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [lwn.net]
...and I offer a testimonial from gycklarn as a counter to your FUD.
Windoze drivers suck, Linux drivers rock [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [archlinux.org]
[1] These same people get infected over and over and over yet they haven't simply shed the OS that is so easily infected.
That speaks volumes about their level of tech sophistication.
-- gewg_
(Score: 1, Troll) by Hairyfeet on Thursday December 18 2014, @05:55AM
Linux is free if your time is worthless, if your time is worth nothing? Go ahead, enjoy the forced upgrade death march, update foo broke my drivers, if you think I'm full of shit take the Hairyfeet Challenge and post the resulting video to Dropbox. Takes less than 4 hours from start to finish and will prove to you what I already know, the Linux driver model is a shitstain on the underwear that is OS design and even 15 year old WinXP WDM driver design is the space age to the 1970s crap design Torvalds refuses to let go of.
As far as cost? You get 10 years worth of updates WITHOUT the upgrade deathmarch for a lousy $100, that is just $10 A YEAR. If you are soo poor that $10 a year is a hardship? You probably can't afford Internet anyway which in that case you can stay with Win95 for all it matters. Oh and just FYI but you can go to pretty much any Craigslist or flea market and find a dual core Win 7 desktop or laptop for less than the $100 so you can actually get newer hardware AND the new OS for less than $100.
Feel free to prove me wrong by taking the challenge but I have a feeling in a few months I'll be able to talk about how my challenge is enjoying its ninth year, because as a Linux admin friend who got fed up with Linux shitting on his laptop said as he went out to get a MBP "Linux doesn't get better, it just gets different!
ACs are never seen so don't bother. Always ready to show SJWs for the racists they are.
(Score: 2) by urza9814 on Thursday December 18 2014, @01:55PM
Yeah, well Windows is pretty damn expensive in time as well. Can't tell you the number of times I've had to copy files onto the Unix systems at work in order to get stuff done, because even the simplest tasks are goddamn impossible on a Windows system. How do you do basic manipulation of a 500+ meg pipe-delimited text file in Windows for example? No grep, no sed, no awk, uniq, sort...and text editors crash just trying to open the damn thing! A single text-only SSH session to a *nix system is more valuable to me than an entire Windows workstation.
(Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Saturday December 20 2014, @09:51PM
Its called Powershell [microsoft.com], been around for over a decade now, and its trivial to extend to do anything you want with cmdlets, not that you'll actually need to because its created with input from fortune 500 companies so pretty much all the basic use cases you can come up with? they'l have already thought of and had built in.
Don't blame Windows for you not bothering to use the tools that are right there and built for the task at hand, hell you can even run bash on Windows if that floats your boat, so there really is no excuse other than you just haven't bothered to learn how to use the tools you have been handed...now who's fault is that?
ACs are never seen so don't bother. Always ready to show SJWs for the racists they are.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 18 2014, @07:59PM
urza already hit the point about having to waste money on MICROS~1's fragile junk -then- having to waste time on it as well.
No, thanks. BTDTGTTS. Nevermore.
broke my drivers [...] upgrade deathmarch
If you're seeing that, the problem is YOU.
Your crappy hardware vendor took your cash and laughed at you.
The reason you have problems with Linux is that you can't make a clean break from the closed-code mentality and will continue to give cash for such products--even when they are horribly broken.
...and I have old hardware (running under Linux) that doesn't have drivers available for the latest Windoze versions.
I already pointed at gycklarn who experienced the same thing.
The problem is the inverse of what you have stated.
taking the challenge
I haven't experienced any of that.
As I already mentioned, people who don't give good money for crap hardware with crap support don't encounter the problem.
-- gewg_
(Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Friday December 19 2014, @03:22AM
Wow I get to play FOSSie Bingo? lets see you invoked Linux Supports More Devices Than Windows [tmrepository.com], tried to pretend the drivers [osnews.com] aren't deep fried tampons [osnews.com] which BTW I noticed your "evidence" is just some badly written search, good going actual evidence would show the "drivers" are just a fucking mess [narod.ru] and the reason invokes Stable Kernel Driver ABI Nonsense [tmrepository.com] which is one of my personal favorite because it shows how FOSSies can't even do basic math (hint if you kept the kernel devs up for eternity doing NOTHING but fixing broken drivers then each driver would get exactly 5 minutes every 6 years).
oh and you invoked the classic linux gives me every thing i need [tmrepository.com] which is true...if all you need is a glorified web browser, but if that is the case you'd be better off with a Chromebook so you don't deal with the biannual forced death march [tmrepository.com] and use distro x [tmrepository.com] But of course you'll try to counter with my anecdotal evidence beats your facts [tmrepository.com] a fav of SJVN and always made of fail, which of course brings us to the simple facts which are Linux is its free you cant complain [tmrepository.com] and death by a thousand downloads [tmrepository.com]. BINGO!
But feel free to take the challenge and TRY, key word is try,to prove me wrong. You won't as you can't click your heels Dorothy and make the deep fried shitstain of a driver model that is Linux driver design (which is so shitty NOBODY else uses it, not free OSes like BSD, not proprietary like OSX and Windows, NOBODY!) go away so YOU WILL FAIL. At the end of the challenge you will get a buggy broken mess with multiple failed drivers if not an outright BSOD. Compare this to windows where I can go from 2K RTM to EOL, that is 4 SPs and patch rollup with ZERO driver failures for 10 years of rock solid support, I can also do the same with XP RTM to EOL, Vista to current, and 7 to current. Of course unlike Linux where you get the deathmarch people that got Vista in 07 get support until 2017, My Win 7 from 2009 gets support until 2020 and Windows 10 which is shaping up to be the new XP? 2025. No death march, no "update foo fucked my Wifi", no use distro X, that Win 7 system I sell this year or (made of)Win 10 I sell nxt year will just keep right on going WITHOUT shelling out hundreds a year in support contracts or doing the death march. But of course you're a FOSSie, which means that even after doing the challenge and having reality cockslap you with Linux failure you'll just hang onto the circle of loon [tmrepository.com] like a security blanket. The challenge is below, nut up or shut up, I'm sure everyone here is waiting to see your proof uploaded to Dropbox...which of course you never will, because when you are sitting there looking at the busted Wifi, fucked sound, and buggy graphics you'll wipe and start over with the latest release and convince yourself that living with a shitty OS is like living in paradise!
Take ANY mainstream consumer oriented (not LTS, because even Ubuntu advises against mainstream users using LTS) from FIVE years ago, this simulates a 5 year typical lifecycle. This BTW is less than HALF a windows support cycle, so I'm cutting linux a break. Lets say you use Ubuntu, that would be Ubuntu 9.10 and can be downloaded from their archive. Install it on ANY PC, desktop or laptop (NOT VM as that isn't real hardware and comes with special drivers) that has a wireless card. Wireless is required because more and more mainstream users are ditching wires and nobody wants a laptop that doesn't have wireless, do they?
During this phase you are the system builder so CLI (which is usually required because Linux driver support is poor) IS ALLOWED. Once its installed you are no longer the system builder but THE USER, so like a windows user you are ONLY allowed to use the GUI. You then get to "enjoy the freedom" of using nothing but the GUI (because if you can't even update the thing without CLI you're no match for windows are you) of updating to current...with ubuntu that is SEVEN RELEASES, just FYI. You will film this and post it to youtube, you only have to upload the final install process of each release and a pic of the device manager showing working hardware complete with wireless showing WPA V2 connection, but the complete video should be hosted on dropbox to prove you aren't faking it.
BTW in case it isn't clear working hardware means WORKING HARDWARE, it does NOT mean wireless that can't use WPA, it does NOT mean a PC with no sound or VESA video, it means FULLY WORKING HARDWARE and again if you are unclear please see the highlighted areas as completing the challenge REQUIRES vids of the final install of each upgrade (last I checked that would be EIGHT for Ubuntu, and around SIX for most others, be sure to have room on your SD Card!) along with a 5 minute video of the end of each install showing that upon completion you could go to hardware manager and had 100% functional hardware with NO FUTZING. After all if you have to futz with the thing just to have functional drivers it isn't on the same level as Windows now is it? BTW the first Windows that passed the challenge was Win2K (RTM to EOL with ZERO failed drivers, 10 years of support) WinXP (14 years, ZERO fails) and both Vista and 7 can go from RTM to current with ZERO failures. So lets see them snappies, otherwise you are just throwing yet more bullshit, which if you want bullshit see "many eyes" (which gave us such well vetted code the world lost billions on heartbleed and will probably lose billions more on stopping the current BASHing...what quality!) or again what all the anecdotes guys like you throw around lead to, the ever popular lies [tmrepository.com], damn lies [tmrepository.com], and the tao of bullshittery. [tmrepository.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19 2014, @10:35AM
The minute I see "ABI", it's obvious you're back to the closed-source garbage.
I already said, if you're going to do Linux, you need to leave that stupid shit behind.
...and only a moron would click a link to tmrepository.
A circle-jerk of lying M$ fanboys? Get real.
You're going to have to do better than that.
...and for about the dozenth time, RedHat, CentOS, and Scientific Linux all pass your silly little challenge with 10 years of support.
TROLL.
...and no, you don't get to specify which Linux gets used any more than someone else gets to specify exactly which Windoze setup you have to use to do a test.
Your dishonesty repeats itself again and again.
-- gewg_