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posted by hubie on Friday January 20 2023, @06:56PM   Printer-friendly
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Generative AI, like OpenAI's ChatGPT, could completely revamp how digital content is developed, said Nina Schick, adviser, speaker, and A.I. thought leader told Yahoo Finance Live:

"I think we might reach 90% of online content generated by AI by 2025, so this technology is exponential," she said. "I believe that the majority of digital content is going to start to be produced by AI. You see ChatGPT... but there are a whole plethora of other platforms and applications that are coming up."

The surge of interest in OpenAI's DALL-E and ChatGPT has facilitated a wide-ranging public discussion about AI and its expanding role in our world, particularly generative AI.

[...] Though it's complicated, the extent to which ChatGPT in its current form is a viable Google competitor, there's little doubt of the possibilities. Meanwhile, Microsoft already has invested $1 billion in OpenAI, and there's talk of further investment from the enterprise tech giant, which owns search engine Bing. The company is reportedly looking to invest another $10 billion in OpenAI.

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  • (Score: 4, Touché) by MostCynical on Friday January 20 2023, @07:13PM (13 children)

    by MostCynical (2589) on Friday January 20 2023, @07:13PM (#1287772) Journal

    since 99% of online content is produced by morons, having AI take over may actually improve things..

    --
    "I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by vux984 on Friday January 20 2023, @08:00PM (8 children)

      by vux984 (5045) on Friday January 20 2023, @08:00PM (#1287786)

      Not if they're training the AI on the stuff written by the morons. Which is what they're doing.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by RS3 on Friday January 20 2023, @08:36PM (7 children)

        by RS3 (6367) on Friday January 20 2023, @08:36PM (#1287797)

        Opens up a lot of philosophical questions. I wonder what will happen when the AIs read other AI's writings. Will it lead to a Utopian set of solutions to human problems, or will it devolve? What biases are being written into the AI's processing? What priorities and goals, if any, are steering the AIs? Do they have, or might they develop ego and id? Will they develop their own language?

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Samantha Wright on Friday January 20 2023, @10:29PM (5 children)

          by Samantha Wright (4062) on Friday January 20 2023, @10:29PM (#1287812)

          None of the above. It will degrade. Imagine a stream of diarrhea stamping on a human face—forever.

          • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2023, @11:13PM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2023, @11:13PM (#1287820)

            Imagine a stream of diarrhea...

            Been there done that. Next?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 21 2023, @02:58PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 21 2023, @02:58PM (#1287903)

              No one is forcing you to read Twitter posts

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 21 2023, @03:04PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 21 2023, @03:04PM (#1287905)

                Eng Lit study on how microblogging has destroyed our language#srs#sus#comeatme#jk#debat#3amthoughts#amhangry#donatblud2day#examsuck#halp#nu

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 23 2023, @12:01AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 23 2023, @12:01AM (#1288110)

                Oh, now you tell me. Gee thanks.

                Now leave me alone, got a lot of cleaning up to do.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 23 2023, @02:22PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 23 2023, @02:22PM (#1288177)

            Hey! No fetish shaming!

        • (Score: 4, Interesting) by aafcac on Sunday January 22 2023, @11:01PM

          by aafcac (17646) on Sunday January 22 2023, @11:01PM (#1288106)

          Probably not, the one time I know of where they had AI talking to AI they quickly started to speak their own language and the plug was pulled. I think this will probably always be the way that ends up, unless they're stuck sticking to an existent language, in which case don't expect any real creative expression.

    • (Score: 2) by SomeRandomGeek on Friday January 20 2023, @08:29PM (2 children)

      by SomeRandomGeek (856) on Friday January 20 2023, @08:29PM (#1287795)

      90% of online content is selfies, and pictures of lunch, and liking and re-tweeting other people's selfies and pictures of lunch. This could all be done by AIs, which would free up actual human beings to do something less mind numbing.

      This post has was crafted by ChatGPT. If you enjoyed it, please like and subscribe. It really does matter to us!

      • (Score: 4, Funny) by turgid on Friday January 20 2023, @08:58PM

        by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 20 2023, @08:58PM (#1287802) Journal

        Once again, Douglas Adams' vision of the electric monk [technovelgy.com] was very prescient.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 22 2023, @06:29PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 22 2023, @06:29PM (#1288066)

        > This post has was crafted by ChatGPT. If you enjoyed it, please like and subscribe. It really does matter to us!

        Thanks - I'll add your site to my AI scraper which reads and filters everything for me.

    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Sunday January 22 2023, @04:46PM

      by VLM (445) on Sunday January 22 2023, @04:46PM (#1288062)

      The percentage of bots is way higher than 1%

  • (Score: 2) by PastTense on Friday January 20 2023, @07:30PM (2 children)

    by PastTense (6879) on Friday January 20 2023, @07:30PM (#1287777)

    I think there is a good chance that the people who run these chatboxes won't bother with very small sites like this one while overrunning big sites like Reddit--which will turn into chatboxes chatting with chatboxes.

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2023, @08:11PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2023, @08:11PM (#1287788)

      Is there a way to keep the posts here on SN out of AI training sets? Do the scrapers obey anything like the "no robots" setting used (I guess) to prevent a page being indexed?

      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 22 2023, @06:31PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 22 2023, @06:31PM (#1288067)

        lol sure and make sure to check No Track on your browser and everyone gets a free pony

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by turgid on Friday January 20 2023, @07:52PM (3 children)

    by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 20 2023, @07:52PM (#1287784) Journal

    So the WWW is where "everyone" hangs out on the intertubes and that will be the target for the Automated Rhubarb Dispensers (ARD). There is a simple solution. Leave normal people and the ARD to the WWW and we'll just invent something else.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2023, @07:54PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2023, @07:54PM (#1287785)

      Shortwave radio. Until that gets flooded by virtual HAMbots.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 22 2023, @06:33PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 22 2023, @06:33PM (#1288069)

        Hand written letters, smoke signals... wherever we go, there will some shithead trying to shovel cheap content and propaganda at us for ad revenue. This really is how it ends. Goodbye, cruel world.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2023, @08:21PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2023, @08:21PM (#1287791)

      So it won't be Skynet after all, instead something more subtle? Brings this to mind,

      This is the way the world ends
              Not with a bang but a whimper.

      https://allpoetry.com/the-hollow-men [allpoetry.com]

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Revek on Friday January 20 2023, @08:39PM (1 child)

    by Revek (5022) on Friday January 20 2023, @08:39PM (#1287798)

    A reason to quit the net.

    --
    This page was generated by a Swarm of Roaming Elephants
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 22 2023, @06:37PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 22 2023, @06:37PM (#1288071)

      Fortunately I have a content blocker as well as an ad blocker so all I get is blank screen. The internet is like early 1990s bliss.

  • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Friday January 20 2023, @10:07PM (4 children)

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 20 2023, @10:07PM (#1287811) Journal

    There is so much computer-generated recycled trash on any given google search. The fact that it's mostly "traditional" algorithms and not "AI" doesn't matter in the fucking slightest to me.

    • (Score: 2) by corey on Friday January 20 2023, @10:43PM

      by corey (2202) on Friday January 20 2023, @10:43PM (#1287817)

      I didn’t read TFA but I was wondering what “digital content” meant. Ones and zeroes? Images? Videos? Emails/spam? Writing?

      Anyway. People at work were wowing over ChatGPT this week and showed me stuff with wide eyes. Yeah ok, I know a bit about CNNs and DL. I guess it did surprise me how far the native language models have come. But I’m concerned with it and the lack of any ethics standards around it. Where will this be in 2035, 2045+?

      Be interesting to see if it could rewrite itself. They taught it Python. Spawn a new instance of itself then talk together.

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 21 2023, @03:07PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 21 2023, @03:07PM (#1287906)

      Seriously, what is with those blogs and pages that are just generated chopped repeated chunks of existing sites?

      • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Sunday January 22 2023, @01:43AM

        by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 22 2023, @01:43AM (#1287987) Journal

        It's cheaper than actually paying writers and gets clicks.

      • (Score: 2) by aafcac on Sunday January 22 2023, @11:05PM

        by aafcac (17646) on Sunday January 22 2023, @11:05PM (#1288108)

        It's a byproduct of Google going with fast rather than good as the sole basis for designing their search algorithms. Even in the day they weren't great, but they were able to search more of the net. Unfortunately, there's a bunch of stuff that you used to be able to do that either aren't possible with Google or are very awkward. A lot of that has to do with Google making basically no attempt at understanding any of the pages that it indexes.

  • (Score: 2) by oumuamua on Saturday January 21 2023, @01:15AM (2 children)

    by oumuamua (8401) on Saturday January 21 2023, @01:15AM (#1287828)

    Currently there are for-profit corporations and non-profits but time to make a middle ground corporation that pursues a goal:
    https://www.genolve.com/design/socialmedia/memes/Goal-Based-Corporations-to-Counteract-AI-Job-Los [genolve.com]
    Of course the first such of these corporations should have a goal of supplying food to other goal-based corporations.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday January 21 2023, @07:11AM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 21 2023, @07:11AM (#1287856) Journal

      Currently there are for-profit corporations and non-profits but time to make a middle ground corporation that pursues a goal

      You mean like a for profit corporation with bylaws? Been there. Done that. Turns out most corporation creators aren't interested in goals other than the usual ones.

      And given that you haven't mentioned what these goals are or why we need a different sort of corporation to pursue them, I'm struck with the thought that maybe we don't need those goals much less specialized corporations to pursue them!

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday January 21 2023, @07:21AM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 21 2023, @07:21AM (#1287859) Journal
      I notice that there's some unintended consequences in there too. For a glaring example, consider the last sentence of that paragraph, "only one 501g may exist per goal". This creates a whole new scheme of abuse, such as a tobacco company creating the one 501g that has the goal of seeking reparations for tobacco products harm.
  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by looorg on Saturday January 21 2023, @05:54AM (3 children)

    by looorg (578) on Saturday January 21 2023, @05:54AM (#1287845)

    90% of the content made by bots observed by the "users" that is probably also made up of a large or substantial amount of bots. Bot on bot action triggering itself to produce more content that it likes that its ai tells it humans might like. But does so less and less with each cycle and iteration.

    Like email spam, it grows as part of traffic and content but garners less and less human eyeballs, so they try to send more to compensate. Repeat.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday January 21 2023, @07:16AM (1 child)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 21 2023, @07:16AM (#1287858) Journal
      I certainly wouldn't advertise to something like this because of what you observe. If a business can generate AI content so easily, then they can generate the readers just as easily. I think it's a safe bet that someone will figure out how to immensely inflate their ad view numbers with AI readers (given that various parties have already figured this trick out with various non-AI schemes) who won't be buying product.
    • (Score: 3, Funny) by choose another one on Sunday January 22 2023, @10:08AM

      by choose another one (515) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 22 2023, @10:08AM (#1288043)

      Nicely done click-bait comment title that I thought meant someone had got in ahead of me, but no, you went somewhere else.

      See, what I would have done with that title was point out that I hope to live to see the day when there are thousands of out-of-work onlyFans "models" out there desperate for cash donors because someone has merged animatronic RealDolls with ChatGPT and used deepfake to scale out/up even cheaper. Because, lets face it, porn must be the single largest training dataset there is. In fact, the first part of the job is probably already done somewhere, just the training to finish...

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