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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 23 2023, @12:52AM (30 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 23 2023, @12:52AM (#1288113)

    This poll can end in nothing but shame and embarrassment, unless everyone picks one of two answers.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Monday January 23 2023, @03:49PM (27 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 23 2023, @03:49PM (#1288192) Journal

      There is no shame in antisocial media. I am able to make dew with the "nun of these" option and not be shamed or embarrassed.

      Social Media is not so much a "constellation" or "network" as it a fuster cluck. A centralized one unlike decentralized Usenet which could carry *ahem* certain newsgropes that some campuses or corporations would be embarrassed to host.

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      • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 23 2023, @07:02PM (25 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 23 2023, @07:02PM (#1288232)

        Not to be a grammar and spelling Nazi, but

        as it a fluster cluck.

        Has SN abandoned all standards since the aristarchus was banned? We'll have no transformational grammer, here!

        • (Score: 4, Informative) by DannyB on Tuesday January 24 2023, @03:04PM (24 children)

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 24 2023, @03:04PM (#1288370) Journal

          No. I did it very correctfully.

          With your solution it is necessary to remove the letter "l" if interchanging prefixes. With my solution, you simply interchange the leading "f" and "cl" in the words fuster cluck. No letters have to go missing.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 26 2023, @07:36AM (20 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 26 2023, @07:36AM (#1288670)

            Maybe it's my bad eyesight or font kerning...

            What's a 'fuster duck'?

            • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 27 2023, @10:07AM (19 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 27 2023, @10:07AM (#1288883)

              Obviously, it is something to be spam modded. Immediately. On site. For no discernable reason.

              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 18 2023, @07:15AM (18 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 18 2023, @07:15AM (#1292340)

                Clearly, the admin have weaponized Spam mods. Originally, they were meant for actual spam, and you should look at the raw journal feed for some idea of what any website is up against. By now, it think I need a Rock Crusher. But that is neither here, nor there. We had the debate over whether the Spam Mod could be used on spammish racist and right wing stupid posts, and the decision was, yes it could. TMB left immediately after that, for some reason, despite him being a siwash pill-boddie. And then we were left with the pure Alt-white-right, like Ncommander and janrinock, oh, and chromas. (Somehow, our SN Nazis always seem to hang behind the scenes, in IRC and nearly no where else.) So now anyone can Spam Mod anyone they disagree with, as long as that person might be aristarchus, or slightly left and anti-racist, like aristarchus, or flat-out anti-fascist, like the 101st Airborne, or aristarchus. Spam pile on the aristarchus.

                Well, that is working out so well that hardly anyone posts here anymore, because of the censorship. Dead internet zone, they are calling it. Former discussion website, they denominate it. Janrinok is talking to ACs that he thinks he has identified, when to the rest of us, it looks like he is talking to a figment of his own imagination. And then he Spam Mods it. This is not healthy.

                So, my suggestion, entire new admin and editorial crew. Remove the Spam mod. Institute a meta-moderation scheme, not under control of any self-appointed tyrants. Oh, and, quit trying to identify aristarchus. We are people of internet conversation, and lies do not become us.

                • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday February 18 2023, @04:20PM (17 children)

                  by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 18 2023, @04:20PM (#1292387) Journal

                  So, my suggestion, entire new admin and editorial crew

                  Yes! A completely new site. Of you go then and create it. Perhaps we will come and marvel at your l33t skills when you finally get it going. Did you volunteer to help out, or even to do the routine admin when NCommander asked for volunteers in December?

                  So now anyone can Spam Mod anyone they disagree with

                  I have undone 7 spam moderations in about the last week or so. We actually have a special page that displays all of the spam and troll mods so that we can undo them if necessary and check if anyone is abusing the moderation system. They are not.

                  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 19 2023, @11:08AM (10 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 19 2023, @11:08AM (#1292545)

                    You have also deleted almost 20 comments today. What are you afraid of?

                    • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday February 19 2023, @11:15AM (3 children)

                      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Sunday February 19 2023, @11:15AM (#1292547) Journal

                      I am not afraid of anything that you might do. Why do you ask?

                      Can you show me the posts by apk? We announced many months ago that we would delete Spam if we wished to do so. But you haven't shown that I have deleted anything.

                      You are banned. And if you have posted almost 20 identical posts - that would certainly be Spam. It would be repetitious, off-topic, and designed to disrupt the purpose of the discussions. It would be Spam.

                      Our site - our rules.

                      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 19 2023, @11:25AM (2 children)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 19 2023, @11:25AM (#1292548)

                        How can I show you comments that have been deleted? They don't exist anymore.

                        Will you also be deleting journals [soylentnews.org]?

                        • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday February 19 2023, @11:29AM (1 child)

                          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Sunday February 19 2023, @11:29AM (#1292549) Journal

                          How can I show you comments that have been deleted? They don't exist anymore.

                          Exactly the point that I was trying to make. Deleting Spam is nothing new - it has been done for several years, and certainly since before TMB left us.

                          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 20 2023, @09:51PM

                            by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 20 2023, @09:51PM (#1292778)

                            Plausible janrinok deniability: it is what he learned in British Military Intelligence. God knows he is lacking any other kind.

                    • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday February 19 2023, @11:47AM (5 children)

                      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Sunday February 19 2023, @11:47AM (#1292550) Journal

                      And, of course, you would know this because you are posting them. After all, you cannot have counted them, because you are telling me that they aren't there....

                      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 19 2023, @12:47PM (4 children)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 19 2023, @12:47PM (#1292554)

                        You aren't deleting spam. You're deleting comments that make you and Runaway look bad. Don't lie.

                        • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday February 19 2023, @01:59PM (3 children)

                          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Sunday February 19 2023, @01:59PM (#1292561) Journal

                          And what truth was there in the comments you have been posting recently? You have never been a member of our staff. There was no such email. You posted your unsubstantiated claims last week.

                          I am not telling lies - but I know that you are.

                          I cannot see what you hope to achieve by your actions. If you wanted to rejoin our community you could have used one of your mulitple accounts that we left open for a while to see how you used them. But that didn't appear to be your reason for staying as you only used them to continue your abuse - much like you have been doing recently. You are doing nothing to make us reconsider your ban.

                          I am not going to be driven away by your silly claims. We are not going to disappear.

                          But you seem to be unsatisfied with your actions that caused the removal of ACs from the front pages and now it appears you want ACs banned from the journals too. You seem determined to force us to consider that as a possible option. You do not care who is inconvenienced by your own behaviour - no matter what moral high-ground you once claimed that you held (but, in fact, that you never did hold). Go on - try to explain what you hope to achieve so that others can stand behind you in support. But at least try to be truthful about it.

                          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 19 2023, @07:42PM (2 children)

                            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 19 2023, @07:42PM (#1292591)

                            “Only please, Brer Fox janrinok, please don't throw us into the briar patch.”

                            The Admin, much like in higher education, seems to think things would run much more smoothly if we could just dispense with the troublesome students and faculty, and only keep the administration and groundskeepers.

                            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 20 2023, @12:25AM (1 child)

                              by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 20 2023, @12:25AM (#1292633)

                              No university is going to tolerate you interrupting calculus class to protest that the professor isn't willing to discuss the alt-right during class time. They also won't tolerate you creating 70 FYN accounts on the university computer system. Your behavior here would have led to you being expelled from any respectable university long ago.

          • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Wednesday February 15 2023, @01:04AM (2 children)

            by NotSanguine (285) <{NotSanguine} {at} {SoylentNews.Org}> on Wednesday February 15 2023, @01:04AM (#1291809) Homepage Journal

            No. I did it very correctfully.

            With your solution it is necessary to remove the letter "l" if interchanging prefixes. With my solution, you simply interchange the leading "f" and "cl" in the words fuster cluck. No letters have to go missing.

            "Fuster cluck" and similar stuff are called Spoonerisms [wikipedia.org] and are quite common. In fact, the Capitol Steps [wikipedia.org] used them to great effect with many bits including their "Lirty Dies" bit.

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            No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
            • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday February 15 2023, @03:29PM (1 child)

              by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 15 2023, @03:29PM (#1291888) Journal

              Yes. I have created some spoonerisms since about 1980 before I even knew there was a name for that.

              My very first was:

              "When we get to the movie, I sure hope we can find a sparking pot."

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 23 2023, @07:26PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 23 2023, @07:26PM (#1288237)

        The Fediverse is decentralized.

    • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Wednesday February 01 2023, @05:51PM (1 child)

      by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Wednesday February 01 2023, @05:51PM (#1289682) Homepage Journal

      I'm only on Facebook to get people to read my books. I'm not on Instagrandma because it's a platform for empty-v aliterates, and I'm not on twitter because I'm not a twit.

      Facebook showed me how ignorant normal people are. It saddens me.

      Oh, about Sirius [mcgrewbooks.com], it's probably the least serious stellar system in the galaxy.

      --
      mcgrewbooks.com mcgrew.info nooze.org
      • (Score: 1) by anubi on Friday February 17 2023, @03:34AM

        by anubi (2828) on Friday February 17 2023, @03:34AM (#1292112) Journal

        I'm on here, and a diesel truck forum, which is mostly frequented by farmers, ranchers, truckers, and those who are interested in the mechanics of the operation and maintenance of diesel engines.

        I figure these groups represent the cream of the crop of what's left of humanity. We design stuff and make it work.

        So far, I have yet to meet a farmer, rancher, trucker, mechanic, or similar tradesman I hold in contempt of being nothing but a useless parasite to society.

        However the ones who profess leadership skills frequently earn my ire. Some people make things, some do nothing but destroy things others made.

        It is bad for me to associate with them. They are masters at putting the fire that drives me.

        --
        "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 23 2023, @02:19AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 23 2023, @02:19AM (#1288121)

    I used to be on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. I had a Facebook account back when it was cool to have an account, which was around 2005. When they first added the news feed, I talked with many friends about how creepy it was that you could see a list of actions by your friends. Privacy is a slippery slope to the point that nobody complains about the news feed anymore, and people have accepted far greater abuses of privacy.

    Around 4-5 years ago, I permanently stopped using all of them. For a week or two, it was a bit awkward not checking in. Now, I'm happy to be done with those platforms, and I can't envision ever going back to any of them. Not only do I not feel like I'm missing anything, but I think I'm much happier not being on any of those platforms. It really is addicting. At least for me, the best thing to do was just altogether deleting the apps, removing the sites from my browsing history so they don't show up in my browser's suggestions, and just not signing in.

    The only social media platform that is even remotely interesting to me is Untappd. It is devoid of politics and other inane things that tend to show up on the aforementioned platforms. It's 100% about beer, and I do like trying new beers. But that's it for me. I'm not really sure how social it is anyway, particularly if you're just using it like you would use Ratebeer.

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 23 2023, @09:31AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 23 2023, @09:31AM (#1288153)

      I had a Facebook account when it was cool. I wanted to stalk people. It was fun for a whole. Then my mother joined.

    • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Thursday January 26 2023, @02:47AM (1 child)

      by mhajicek (51) on Thursday January 26 2023, @02:47AM (#1288641)

      Never had it, never will. I do go on Discord to stay on touch with the kids.

      --
      The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
      • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Wednesday February 01 2023, @05:54PM

        by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Wednesday February 01 2023, @05:54PM (#1289685) Homepage Journal

        I just talked with my kids to connect with youth, but now they're middle aged. Taverns are a fair substitute.

        --
        mcgrewbooks.com mcgrew.info nooze.org
  • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday January 24 2023, @11:13PM (5 children)

    by Freeman (732) on Tuesday January 24 2023, @11:13PM (#1288448) Journal

    I caved into the Facebook pressure. My wife was all, you should join, and pointed out that I was tagged in a bunch of photos anyway. So, they already have bunches of data on me. So, I signed up for it. Posted a couple of things over the errmm..., who knows how long ago I created the account. Now, it's an essentially forgotten account that will collect dust, until Facebook goes poof or something. I could access it, if I wanted. I don't want and wish I could claw all my data back from Facebook. That isn't ever going to happen. So, the best I can do is make Facebook pay the infinitesimal amount they have to, to keep my account around.

    --
    Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 25 2023, @07:05AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 25 2023, @07:05AM (#1288503)
      Just load it up with fake data like fake birth dates, education, birth place, etc to clutter up their DBs and also help you tell who sold data to who - e.g. if you get a birthday wishes on April 1st you know where that was from.
      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 25 2023, @10:41PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 25 2023, @10:41PM (#1288601)

        Sockpuppet the Facebork? Janrinok will not approve.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 26 2023, @07:39AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 26 2023, @07:39AM (#1288671)

      I only signed up to Meta so that hot women from Europe could stalk me online.

      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Thursday January 26 2023, @05:00PM (1 child)

        by Freeman (732) on Thursday January 26 2023, @05:00PM (#1288723) Journal

        I would be wary of anyone posing as a hot woman "stalking you" on the internet.

        --
        Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by mcgrew on Wednesday February 01 2023, @05:57PM

          by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Wednesday February 01 2023, @05:57PM (#1289688) Homepage Journal

          You would be surprised at how many there are. They have lots of fools to sucker.

          --
          mcgrewbooks.com mcgrew.info nooze.org
  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 27 2023, @03:24AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 27 2023, @03:24AM (#1288844)

    I joined a maths-themed instance and really enjoying it.

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 27 2023, @08:52AM (53 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 27 2023, @08:52AM (#1288871)

    Trifecta of Nuclear stories on the front page, with nowhere for us anti-nuke anti-fa anti-janrinok to post our opinions. This is a grate loss for SoylentNews, which could be much better, even viable, if it once again allowed pure AC posting. But, if not, we are stuck with submissions of the Nuclear Commission.

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 27 2023, @10:11AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 27 2023, @10:11AM (#1288884)

      Or, we could just have even more spam mods. WTF is up with all the Spam Mods???

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 21 2023, @07:04AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 21 2023, @07:04AM (#1292842)

        We could use moar Spam Mods, the denigrate SoylentNews as a hole.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by janrinok on Saturday January 28 2023, @08:48AM (50 children)

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 28 2023, @08:48AM (#1289057) Journal

      which could be much better, even viable, if it once again allowed pure AC posting

      If only a small number of 'pure AC' s wouldn't abuse that privilege by not allowing others the same rights that they demand for themselves.

      It sounds a bit Harry Potterish, don't you think - pure AC?

      I offered a solution which was rejected. Your move.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 28 2023, @10:43AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 28 2023, @10:43AM (#1289061)

        Fuck off, janrinok! You offered nothing, and you side with the Nazis. Typical racist Brit.

      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 30 2023, @02:19AM (48 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 30 2023, @02:19AM (#1289228)

        "by not allowing others the same rights that they demand for themselves."

        Umm, buddy? Pretty sure staffers are the only ones that can do so. Oh wait, there is the spam mod that users can use but pure ACs cannot. So, once again, wtf is seriously wrong with your brain?

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 30 2023, @09:05AM (47 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 30 2023, @09:05AM (#1289259)

          Somehow, pure AC's posting prevents others from posting, so we stopped the pure AC posting, but then almost all the posting stopped, too, which was strange. Perhaps things are not in reality the way they appear to some editors.

          • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Monday January 30 2023, @09:26AM (46 children)

            by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 30 2023, @09:26AM (#1289260) Journal

            Perhaps things are not in reality the way they appear to some editors.

            It seems to me that the people who are confused are the ACs.

            We haven't stopped anyone from posting. You are posting comments now. So my obvious reply is:

            So, once again, wtf is seriously wrong with your brain?

            You can discuss any topic that you wish. You are free to write comments. The only things that you cannot do are as a result of your own choices.

            • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 31 2023, @01:08AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 31 2023, @01:08AM (#1289407)

              Perhaps things are not in reality the way they appear to some editors.

              It seems to me that the people who are confused are the ACs.

              Hypothesis confirmed?

            • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 31 2023, @10:42PM (44 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 31 2023, @10:42PM (#1289554)

              Janrinok said: "If only a small number of 'pure AC' s wouldn't abuse that privilege by not allowing others the same rights that they demand for themselves."

              So ACs are magically able to stop other people from commenting? Your brain is turning into swiss cheese ya wanker!

              • (Score: 4, Interesting) by janrinok on Wednesday February 01 2023, @06:37AM (43 children)

                by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 01 2023, @06:37AM (#1289593) Journal

                There was nothing 'magic' about it. A small number of ACs harass certain users by personal attacks and spamming in an effort to dissuade them from commenting. It continues today and is widespread in the journals. It is the reason why ACs are no longer able to comment on the front page unless they are logged in.

                And using childish insults is not going to help your case either.

                • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 02 2023, @06:57PM (20 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 02 2023, @06:57PM (#1289903)

                  How the standards have changed. From free speech to censorship, who knew childish namesare worse than racism and promotion of political terrorism? You throw around false accusations and insults, but as usual the conservative brain says RULES FOR THEE NOT FOR ME!

                  I enjoy these small reminders of how badly you fail the sites original purpose. Maybe that was all a lie and the site was only ever about alt-right shit posting while grifting for beer money and supporter paid hosting?

                  I will agree that discussions look a little better now that comments have a little more accountability. Sadly you still have priorities all screwy like being mad at people pointing out reality and your mistakes instead of those pushing fascism. Churchill would hang his head in shame.

                  • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday February 03 2023, @07:00AM (19 children)

                    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 03 2023, @07:00AM (#1289985) Journal

                    From free speech to censorship

                    Who has been censored? It cannot be you because you are posting now. You are still free to express yourself. So please, give me an example. People disagreeing with you and moderating you as they see fit is not censorship.

                    reminders of how badly you fail the sites original purpose

                    The sites original purpose (Feb 2014) was to discuss topics related primarily to STEM, but not exclusively so. That is exactly what we are doing today.

                    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2023, @06:02PM (18 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2023, @06:02PM (#1290063)

                      Clearly you have switched to alt-reality where users and ACs were never banned not due to site rules but arbitrary rules staff decided upon. Paired with your false accusations your invisible Code of Conduct is what is typically labeled fascism. You along with other users get to insult others freely, but when you or other puds are insulted suddenly you mount your high horse. Same issues with the types of deplorable speech you tolerate, and that which earns someone a ban. Humanity has codified laws for a reason, to stop petty tyrants from having an easy time abusing their power. You are like a child that hovers their finger in front of someone's face saying "I'm not touching you!" except you did and want to sweep it under the rug. Let us be clear, doxxing has no validity and users should get banned for it, but so should the nazi-lites around here. Or did you brits not learn anything from ww2?

                      Just codify your CoC already, you've already caved and admitted the site requires user management and strict rules against some of the worst behavior. Or go back to full freedom of speech and let community moderation, you know that excuse you use to avoid responsibility, do its thing even as broken and easily gamed as it is.

                      Just stop the lies and hypocrisy! Will check back in a while, give the alt-righters some time to calm down and come to grips with the fact the GOP is the party of traitors selling out the country to foreign interests while demolishing further the middle class. Har har like the middle class even exists anymore.

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2023, @07:07PM (7 children)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2023, @07:07PM (#1290075)

                        Let us be clear, doxxing has no validity and users should get banned for it, but so should the nazi-lites around here.

                        Speaking of possible bans on "nazi-lites", when was the last time Ethanol-fueled [soylentnews.org] posted? He posted a few spam comments about Jews and hasn't been heard from since. I don't know if he's actually banned, but his antisemitism has been conspicuously absent from the site.

                        I do know for a fact that the site admins would like to start deleting racist and antisemitic comments. But the admins hesitate to do more because people like you will accuse them of censorship. However, you can see for yourself that janrinok publicly told Runaway to keep his warped politics in his journal [soylentnews.org], not on the front page.

                        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2023, @10:46PM (5 children)

                          by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2023, @10:46PM (#1290127)

                          Oh good, staff doing their jobs! Too bad they abrogated that responsibility until now.

                          My only complaint now is the hypocrisy and tolerance of racism, though as you say ef has been gone a while and the few frequent racists around have been toning it down supposedly. Runaway should be banned for racism and terrorist threats, otherwise the supposed doxxing ban should be lifted off aristarchus because runaway's is the more serious threat to free society by promoting political terrorism.

                          As I say repeatedly, ban both users. They'll come back with new names but at least they will suffer some vanity punishment. This little drama is a microcosm of US and UK politics. Rightwing baddies get a pass or slap on the wrist, leftwing baddies get beaten and murdered. The actions demonstrate the values, and janrinoks repetetive explanations do not change anything, they just make it seem like no big deal. Which fair enough it is not a big deal, tiny website with small readership, who really cares? Sad to see such apathy and acceptance of political and social terrorizing #NotHyperbole

                          • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday February 04 2023, @07:34AM (4 children)

                            by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 04 2023, @07:34AM (#1290198) Journal

                            Runaway should be banned for racism and terrorist threats, otherwise the supposed doxxing ban should be lifted off aristarchus because runaway's is the more serious threat to free society by promoting political terrorism.

                            What was the police response when you reported this to them? I cannot - I am neither an American citizen nor a resident there. Nor am I obliged to do so because I am not bound by US law. I have raised it with my local police, because we have different laws here and I socialise with them fairly often, and they asked 'is it illegal?". Well, is it?

                            • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 04 2023, @04:59PM (3 children)

                              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 04 2023, @04:59PM (#1290262)

                              Thanks again for confirming how fascist friendly you are. Please report aristarchus' doxxing. Oh wait, you don't live in the US!

                              Seehow easy it is to unmask your hypocrisy? SN is pro-fascist conservative propaganda promoters pretending to be high idealism freedom fighters. What a joke you are.

                              • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday February 04 2023, @06:11PM (2 children)

                                by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 04 2023, @06:11PM (#1290281) Journal

                                Too bad they abrogated that responsibility until now.

                                I only stepped into the role in the middle of last year; before that it was Bytram and earlier still it was TMB. I don't think any of us have abrogated our responsibilities.

                                The problem is that if we take temporary banning action we get accused of censorship or preventing freedom of speech, and if we take the opposite then we are accused of abrogating our responsibilities. And we get accused of both things by the same ACs - you want to pick and choose who can comment and who cannot. You are picking on a specific person for the point of view that he holds. Why do you even bother to read what he writes? I don't agree with him nor with you.

                                There will be NO code of conduct because people will simply try to find loopholes in it and then say that we can do nothing because it isn't in the CoC. Bytram stated the main rule - Don't be a dick. We are here to have discussions. Not to verbally assault specific individuals who might not share your point of view. We encourage robust arguments and debate, but that doesn't mean that you should direct your insults personally. If you do not like having discussions then you are in the wrong place.

                                NCommander invited people to volunteer to lead the team in December - I am prepared to bet that you did not submit a bid. I did. I stated that I was not the best person for the job, I do not have the technical skills required in all the areas of support that require people, but I would rather try to keep the site alive than see it disappear. What are you prepared to do to support the site?

                                • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 06 2023, @03:04PM

                                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 06 2023, @03:04PM (#1290460)

                                  Nice hypocriting plus more false accusations, as expected. Get off the Cross, we need the wood.

                                • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 13 2023, @11:07AM

                                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 13 2023, @11:07AM (#1291526)

                                  Nine years, and aristarchus has been here for all of them. Too bad the site has lost sight of the need to cite. Sources, that is. The Star Chamber is alive and functioning on SN.

                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 06 2023, @10:23AM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 06 2023, @10:23AM (#1290442)

                          Last Ethanol was herd of, he was being stampeded into jail for some anti-semitic crime he did. I don't think he was banned.

                      • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday February 03 2023, @08:24PM (9 children)

                        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 03 2023, @08:24PM (#1290086) Journal

                        Clearly you have switched to alt-reality where users and ACs were never banned not due to site rules but arbitrary rules staff decided upon.

                        Only 1 user has been banned, and that was for unacceptable behaviour in our community i.e. doxing. It doesn't matter where the information comes from, doxing a member of our own community is simply unacceptable.

                        ACs post on the front pages and in the journals. That hardly amounts to a ban when ACs are still free to post. Remember that being an AC is a choice that you have made.

                        Or go back to full freedom of speech

                        You have freedom of speech - you are exercising it now. You could have an account and still exercise your freedom of speech as an AC. Your choice again.

                        As a website we are free to impose whatever rules the community wishes. They do not want unaccountable ACs on the front page stories. We asked the community, listened to their replies and then acted upon them. You can't get any more democratic than that.

                        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2023, @10:37PM (5 children)

                          by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2023, @10:37PM (#1290126)

                          *yawn*

                          Thanks for confirming your stance.

                          Doxxing bad, domestic terrorism OK! Juvenile insults bad, dangerous medical advice GREAT!

                          As for democratic, I read the threads and there was no democracy, just a variety of stances that you decided was enough to make a decision. As long as you keep lying like this no one will trust you. Well, not exactly lie, more of a PR spin. Worse than lying really, slimier. You should have stuck to "STEM article discussions" back when ethanolpuked was busy spamming racist slurs on every story, but at this point your reputation speaks for itself. At least you've toned down some of your false accusations so there is that /shrug

                          TMB was right that him leaving would lead to censorship. Not that I mind, it just needs to be paired with actual rules of conduct and enforced. You can't declare something wrong after the fact and expect people to then trust your leadership.

                          • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday February 04 2023, @07:24AM (4 children)

                            by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 04 2023, @07:24AM (#1290197) Journal

                            And if by any chance you are the same AC who keeps submitting the same story ("With Microsoft we can work together without competing,” says Rouffineau [at Canonical] ") - it is a DUPE. We covered this story in early December!

                            • https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=58383
                            • https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=57981
                            • https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=58098
                            • https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=58130
                            • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 06 2023, @03:10PM (3 children)

                              by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 06 2023, @03:10PM (#1290462)

                              Nope, and when will you drop your obsession with identifying ACs as you keep professing? Are all old christians so full of shit? Is it the religion that does it, normalizing bad behavior because being christian == good person?

                              Honestly I'm curious how you can continue lying and deceiving people with half truths and outright lies while thinking you are in the right.

                              • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Monday February 06 2023, @04:06PM (2 children)

                                by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 06 2023, @04:06PM (#1290474) Journal

                                And if by any chance you are the same AC

                                I didn't attempt to identify any particular AC. I have highlighted a vital word which you seem to have overlooked. But you are an AC, so it seemed to be reasonable place to put the request.

                                • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 07 2023, @01:37AM (1 child)

                                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 07 2023, @01:37AM (#1290547)

                                  C'mon, janrinok! It is obvious to everyone that you think it is aristarchus, again.

                                  • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 07 2023, @07:28AM

                                    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 07 2023, @07:28AM (#1290576)

                                    Unless, it is not aristarchus. But what are the odds here? Either it is aristarchus, or it is not. I put that at a 50/50 chance. Then there is the fact that we have someone actually posting on SoylentNews, and SOYLENTNEWS IS ARISTARCHUS!!! So the odds are now 99.9% I honestly do not know how janrinok can live with this. Aristarchuses under the bed, in the closet (double entendre, zut alors!), and aristarchoi in the agora! I am now putting the odds at Five 9's, just to be safe. Unless aristarchus has died. He was rather exceptionally old, and it would not be the first time a Soylentil has passed. RIP, MDC!

                        • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 08 2023, @11:02AM (2 children)

                          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 08 2023, @11:02AM (#1290724)

                          Only 1 user has been banned,

                          OMG! Who was banned? What did they do? Are the rest of the bannings secret?

                          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 13 2023, @08:15AM

                            by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 13 2023, @08:15AM (#1291502)

                            aristarchus was banned. We all miss him sorely. Except for the Right-wing Nut-jobs, janrinok, and Runsaway. Would be nice if we had some fair and balanced discussion here, and having aristarchus around grately contributed to that.

                          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 18 2023, @07:13PM

                            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 18 2023, @07:13PM (#1292416)

                            Oh! Look! It is an unrescinded Spam mod, that is in no way abusive! Good thing janrinok is on patrol!

                • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 09 2023, @10:25PM (21 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 09 2023, @10:25PM (#1290976)

                  A small number of ACs harass certain users by personal attacks and spamming in an effort to dissuade them from commenting.

                  I am SOOOO sorry that racists are not feeling welcome on SoylentNews. It seems that janrinok want's us to be nice to them, and treat their hatred and insanity as just "a different point of view". Sorry, again, not going to happen.

                  • (Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Friday February 10 2023, @06:47AM (5 children)

                    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 10 2023, @06:47AM (#1291056) Journal

                    That is what the moderation system is for - you have simply chosen not to be able to moderate. Don't blame the world for your choices.

                    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2023, @11:16PM (4 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2023, @11:16PM (#1291447)

                      The og aristarchus was shadow modbanned, you never do want to let people know that. Now you allow a user account to stay yet deny some privileges? You are a fascist, but we all knew that about the UK with its pedo monarchy.

                      • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Monday February 13 2023, @07:45AM (3 children)

                        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 13 2023, @07:45AM (#1291491) Journal

                        Every account is treated in exactly the same way.

                        If the account breaks the rules then they receive a warning - everyone makes a mistake now and then. If they continue to break the rules on a regular basis they will be given a temporary ban, and bans grow each time they are applied. If the behaviour is continued still further then the account could be banned permanently. As far as I am aware, this has only happened in once during our 9 years of operation.

                        Sock puppets are specifically forbidden. They can be disabled immediately - usually the user still gets to keep one account which is sufficient for most purposes, at our discretion.

                        Silly name calling is simply childish.

                        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 13 2023, @08:17AM (2 children)

                          by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 13 2023, @08:17AM (#1291503)

                          Fuck you, janrinok! Your British imperialism is not lost on the Celts here about. Not upon the rest of the Soylentils. Accounts? You ban all ACs, and say because of "accounts"? What a queer way of thinking.

                          • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Monday February 13 2023, @08:49AM (1 child)

                            by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 13 2023, @08:49AM (#1291505) Journal

                            There are ACs posting in the front page stories, in the journals, and here too. You are an AC. ACs are obviously not banned.

                            I think we have already discussed name-calling.

                            • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 13 2023, @05:52PM

                              by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 13 2023, @05:52PM (#1291584)

                              Yeah but how many users know that their AC comments on front page articles are forever tied to their user account? That their comments can be deanonymized by staff who have a history of doing so?

                              Right, you refuse to update any of the SN pages to accurately reflect reality. Cracks me up that you still try and insist it costs $7k per year to host the site. Just $3k to go for the last 6 months!

                  • (Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Friday February 10 2023, @08:01AM (14 children)

                    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 10 2023, @08:01AM (#1291065) Journal

                    I have now had some time to research your claims further.

                    You have never adversely moderated any posts by Ethanol-fueled when he posted any of his racist comments, nor did you make any critical replies. Likewise you did nothing when he made his antisemitic claims.

                    I have looked at many other racist and antisemitic comments by a variety of people and your response to them is noticeable by its absence.

                    You do not stand against racism or antisemitism - you are simply targeting a specific individual. Furthermore, you do not attack his arguments but his character, or you make wild and unsubstantiated accusations about him. That is the perfect example of a personal attack - which is not what this site is for. It is also why you are stuck trying to create discussions in an out-of-date poll.

                    But it appears that you are incapable of winning an argument by debate alone so you have to resort to tactics that you hope will win you support. I detest all of the comments that we are discussing and neither I nor the site support them. But demanding that we remove the right to freedom of expression from one specific community member for comments that are made by many different commentators is unacceptable. You have provided no convincing argument that we should consider such action against a single individual. Unless what you are suggesting is that we do the same for anyone making racist or antisemitic statements - but of course you would then claim that that is censorship by a right-wing fascist site, wouldn't you?.

                    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 10 2023, @10:11AM (2 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 10 2023, @10:11AM (#1291069)

                      Who ya talking to, janrinok? ACs cain't mod, ya know.

                      • (Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Friday February 10 2023, @11:23AM (1 child)

                        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 10 2023, @11:23AM (#1291071) Journal

                        You haven't always been AC though.

                        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 10 2023, @08:09PM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 10 2023, @08:09PM (#1291144)

                          And you haven't always been janrinok, either. But I suspect you have always been a racist supporter. Now go away, before I taunt you a second tyme!

                    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 11 2023, @02:05AM (2 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 11 2023, @02:05AM (#1291198)

                      Runaway is going off on gender studies, and guns, and the gender of guns, like a true ammosexual would. I expect that janrinok will have some stiff words to insert into chamber comments of Runaway's journal.

                      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 11 2023, @08:53AM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 11 2023, @08:53AM (#1291241)

                        Runnyways at least has enough higher education to block pure ACs, and his nemesoi Captain America and aristarchus from commenting on his journal. If anyone really would like to know the full, and shocking, educational attainment of said Supply Puke Navy Vet, I am sure any kind of an inquiry here on SoylentNews would produce the sought after information. I mean, everything else about Runawaying's personal data has been posted here, by his own self, including his divorce, bouts of gonnerhea, Covid-19 vaccinations, and adult children moving back in. Sarah Huckabee Clinton is now his First Lady, again. Man is a complete coward. And ignoramous. Not to mention, "Arkansas normal".

                      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2023, @07:51PM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2023, @07:51PM (#1291427)

                        And, janrinok did! He noted that Runaway is very afraid of sex, and crime, and sex-crime. Evidently he has been groomed by Faux News and Cucker Tarlson. But janrinok failed to point out the quite real grounds for Runaway's fear. This is Arkansas we are talking about, home to the Duggars, and No. 2 in number of registered sex offenders [allongeorgia.com], Fourth in overall violent crime [usatoday.com], near the bottom among states for education [nationsreportcard.gov]. No wonder Runaway is so afraid, and posts crazy and stupid things that he gets mostly from The Truth about Dumbs [amazon.com].

                    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 11 2023, @08:38AM (6 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 11 2023, @08:38AM (#1291239)

                      It is also why you are stuck trying to create discussions in an out-of-date poll.

                      I wonder why that would be? Better than trying to create discussions on the lame front page articles of late! Really, janrinok, it is time to admit defeat, and resign, turn the helm over to someone younger, smarter, and better looking. Someone who can get Ncommander to do more than drive-by maitenance. Someone who has not banned users in contradiction of everything BuckFeta stood for. Someone who is not you.

                      And if that, perchance, is no one? So be it.

                      • (Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Saturday February 11 2023, @02:29PM (5 children)

                        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 11 2023, @02:29PM (#1291260) Journal

                        Better than trying to create discussions on the lame front page articles of late!

                        Lets look at the last 3 days shall we. 8th Feb - 81% (out of 130 comments) came from the front page, 9th Feb - 94% (out of 191 comments) came from the front page, and on 10th Feb, 58% (out of 176 comments) came from the front page. The comment counts are slowly climbing, month on month, not falling. We are still getting new members from time-to-time, and they are posting.

                        If we look at comment content - most of the comments in the journals are from AC making sarcastic remarks, attacking other community members, or complaining about how they cannot do something because they are AC!

                        If you want any more figures I am sure that you can count them yourself.

                        someone who has not banned users

                        Only 1 person has been permanently banned. One account is on a temporary ban for moderation abuse. EF is NOT banned - although I think he might be a little bit preoccupied elsewhere at present.

                        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2023, @10:03AM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2023, @10:03AM (#1291385)

                          Only 1 person has been permanently banned. One account is on a temporary ban for moderation abuse. EF is NOT banned - although I think he might be a little bit preoccupied elsewhere at present.

                          Only one person has permanently banned a Soylentil. Jmorris went missing, showed up in January 6th. Ethanol_Funneled is a valued member of SoylentNews, just like Kowalski, but it would be better if he was not such a racist asshole and raging anti-semite. If only he could be more like Runaway, an imbecile racist and unwitting anti-semite.

                          Nice that we have the Polls to discuss important issues of the Day about the future of SoylentNews. I have seen the future, and it is fucked.

                        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2023, @11:13PM (3 children)

                          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2023, @11:13PM (#1291446)

                          Good luck with new members, eventually they see the racism that never gets down modded now that so few non-racists remain and will likely bail. Or the white supremacists will just take over and NCommander will shut it down. Or not, hard to tell where staff actually are on the whole racism thing. Lots of denials paired with conflicting actions, lots of abuse targeting liberal users and lots of ehining from staff about rightwing users being criticized. After a while the patterns become clear, janrinok defends rightwing fuckery and makes false accusations, really not a good look.

                          As long as you defend domestic terrorism and political propaganda from rightwingers as "not illegal" while prohibiting legal "doxxing" done by runaway his own dumb self, well the hypocrisy says everything that needs to be said. Now bury this with another downmod, don't want the regulars actually catching on to your lying ways.

                          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 13 2023, @07:59AM (2 children)

                            by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 13 2023, @07:59AM (#1291497)

                            Runaway is doubling down with the ammosexual groomer's handbook! I guess he is not aware that Arkansas has one of the highest amounts of sex crimes, and that most sex crimes are not done by liberals, but by family members, or devout Christains (Duggars). If I were him, I would be very afraid, and maybe even keep a pistol close by, in case Gramps tried it again.

                            • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 15 2023, @10:05AM (1 child)

                              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 15 2023, @10:05AM (#1291864)

                              On IRC, Runaway seems to have gone the full cabbage. His mind has turned to mulch. He is sharing way too much personal information on-line.

                              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 21 2023, @05:53AM

                                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 21 2023, @05:53AM (#1292825)

                                Shouldn't these comments be modded Spam, since they are derogatory of the SoylentNews, not to mention comparing Runaway to vegetables. Whether deserved or not.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by VLM on Friday January 27 2023, @02:44PM (1 child)

    by VLM (445) on Friday January 27 2023, @02:44PM (#1288917)

    Nobody uses those sites anymore, its all bots whispering groupthink propaganda at each other, admittedly still a few legacy little old ladies sharing cute kittie memes, but its mostly bots now.

    The next financial crisis is going to be when Dead Internet Theory goes from "conspiracy theory" to impacting billion dollar company financial reports to "Ah, we knew that was true all along". All that ad spend for bots to show other bots advertisements based on claims that only conspiracy theorists think there are bots on the internet.

  • (Score: 1, Troll) by VLM on Friday January 27 2023, @02:53PM (3 children)

    by VLM (445) on Friday January 27 2023, @02:53PM (#1288920)

    Note that addictive things usually have a power law distribution so its no surprise that traffic is at "normal levels" on those sites yet 2/3 of the population don't use them at all.

    See also alcohol where like 5% of the population drinks about 95% of the booze (made up numbers / probably not far off)

    Went thru a "big number" a couple years ago for high school reunion where some clown decided to organize a reunion on Facebook and this roughly matches my experiences, probably 2/3 of my class has an account, of which 90% are essentially unused now, yet there's always that idiot out there who still shitposts a picture of every single meal he eats in 2023 or does the "atheist prayer" of ranting "orange man bad" cringe-ily in 2023 as if anyone sane cares about their prayers.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 27 2023, @03:17PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 27 2023, @03:17PM (#1288928)

      If you interpret the last option as "none," then you're up to about 3/4's.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 31 2023, @10:45PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 31 2023, @10:45PM (#1289555)

      I just love how you cannot help but display your bigotry and hypocrisy. Seems like all the old racists are getting much more comfortable these days, I wonder what changed?

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 07 2023, @10:04PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 07 2023, @10:04PM (#1290665)

        . Seems like all the old racists are getting much more comfortable these days, I wonder what changed?

        I am not racist, but, looks like they don't have to worry about being mocked by aristarchus anymore, which was the true intent of the banning. I see that crapoo just squeezed out an anti-semitic comment in a front page comment section. I expect there will be more of this, as long as they have janrinok's support and protection.

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