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posted by janrinok on Wednesday January 25 2023, @03:02PM   Printer-friendly
from the circle-of-life dept.

https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.

I call this enshittification, and it is a seemingly inevitable consequence arising from the combination of the ease of changing how a platform allocates value, combined with the nature of a "two sided market," where a platform sits between buyers and sellers, hold each hostage to the other, raking off an ever-larger share of the value that passes between them.

[...] Search Amazon for "cat beds" and the entire first screen is ads, including ads for products Amazon cloned from its own sellers, putting them out of business (third parties have to pay 45% in junk fees to Amazon, but Amazon doesn't charge itself these fees). All told, the first five screens of results for "cat bed" are 50% ads.

This is enshittification: surpluses are first directed to users; then, once they're locked in, surpluses go to suppliers; then once they're locked in, the surplus is handed to shareholders and the platform becomes a useless pile of shit. From mobile app stores to Steam, from Facebook to Twitter, this is the enshittification lifecycle.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 25 2023, @08:33PM (11 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 25 2023, @08:33PM (#1288591)

    Show me something that was written 20 years ago that is prohibited now.

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by kazzie on Wednesday January 25 2023, @09:05PM (2 children)

    by kazzie (5309) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 25 2023, @09:05PM (#1288597)

    I can't: It's prohibited.

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 25 2023, @10:55PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 25 2023, @10:55PM (#1288603)

      Well that's fucking convenient for your argument. A Golden Wonderland 20 years ago that was DEFINITELY TEH BESTEST but nobody except a few Elders remember nostalgically. That's definitely not ripe for abuse. May I purchase a red baseball cap too?

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by driverless on Thursday January 26 2023, @12:38AM

        by driverless (4770) on Thursday January 26 2023, @12:38AM (#1288620)

        That's actually what makes MAGA so potent, everyone who's used it since Reagan (he was just the first of many) has recognised that it's effective because everyone decides for themselves when America was "great". Whether it was pre-Civil War with the darkies singin' in the fields and pickin' cotton or the late 1800s when a select few were getting rich off the suffering of others or the 1940s when we had the bomb and no-one else did or the 1950s when uppity women knew their place, everyone gets to chose the time they want to dream about.

        And, presumably, the demographic they at that time they want to be part of, because you certainly didn't want to be anything but a higher-level boss or owner during the Gilded Age.

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by khallow on Wednesday January 25 2023, @11:48PM (4 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 25 2023, @11:48PM (#1288609) Journal

    Show me something that was written 20 years ago that is prohibited now.

    The entire Twitter history [politico.com] of Donald Trump. Seriously, Twitter announced in April 2021, that it wouldn't let the National Archives make available former president Trump's tweets available. The entire history, including a couple decades of stuff that didn't get banned, was completely censored. That account lasted about 12 years [timesofisrael.com].

    • (Score: 0, Redundant) by khallow on Thursday January 26 2023, @12:04AM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 26 2023, @12:04AM (#1288615) Journal

      including over a decade of stuff that didn't get banned

      Sorry, sloppy writing.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 26 2023, @08:13AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 26 2023, @08:13AM (#1288673)

      That ain't prohibited you retard. That's your problem you didn't save them on your own hard drive rather than expect someone else to host that shit. You can read Trump's Tweets to your hearts content in any public space in this country. Shame on you - fuck you - for associating your precious expectations with oppression.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Thursday January 26 2023, @05:26PM (1 child)

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday January 26 2023, @05:26PM (#1288734) Journal

      The entire Twitter history [politico.com] of Donald Trump.

      Here ya go, first result on google. [thetrumparchive.com]

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Friday January 27 2023, @04:53AM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 27 2023, @04:53AM (#1288857) Journal
        And will that website be around in five years? There are no guarantees in life, but the National Archives is likely to be around then.
  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Thursday January 26 2023, @02:19AM (2 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Thursday January 26 2023, @02:19AM (#1288633)

    Help me please, I am a good Christian Nigerian Prince who has been cast out by evil men in my country. I have a considerable fortune tied up in the U.S. banking system and I humbly ask your assistance in retrieving it. For your troubles I will reward you with 10% of my US$247 million balance. All we must do to retrieve my fortune, and your fee, is give me your account number...

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    • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Saturday January 28 2023, @07:06PM (1 child)

      by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 28 2023, @07:06PM (#1289105) Homepage Journal

      In Europe it's pretty routine to give people your bank number, so that they can deposit money in it.
      So the normal practice isn't to write a cheque to pay someone; it's to send your bank a request to transfer money to their bank.
      It has the effect of eliminating NSF cheques.

      • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Saturday January 28 2023, @08:35PM

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday January 28 2023, @08:35PM (#1289117)

        Oh, this is just the first step, the ones that respond to this are far more likely to take the next step and pay a "small fee" to release the funds.

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